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(Class Build) Rust's Reflect TR

rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
edited November 2014 in The Thieves' Den
This is a high-end build, ergo quite expensive, long grind and requires skill to play.
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If you have questions, PM me in-game @rustlord.

Rust's Build for Tyranny of Dragons

~ no cheese

I've archived this build in a PDF file for later reference, and for those like me who aim to explore a unique, viable gameplay for their character.

Complete build: https://pdf.yt/d/7sbjoRyjz0b1qMTC

If links in the document doesn't work for you,

Click here for boons.
Click here for powers & feats.

Click thumbs for a quick look.
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  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Ability Score Rolling

    Human (my scores) http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/731906
    Best Human http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/731904
    Best Half-orc http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/731905
    Best Halfling http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/731903

    List of all possible ability score rolls.

    Artifacts

    Primary http://neverwinter.gamepedia.com/Sigil_of_the_Devoted
    Secondary http://neverwinter.gamepedia.com/Vanguard%27s_Banner
    Secondary http://neverwinter.gamepedia.com/Sigil_of_the_Great_Weapon
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  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Screenies

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    HD Screenshots

    http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/740715
    http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/740716
    http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/740446
    http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/735178
    http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/734764
    http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/731626
    http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/731805
    http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/731807
    http://minionsofdiabolic.shivtr.com/gallery_images/731806
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  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Videos

    (update: 7/13/2014)

    Against 5xGWF Domination (premade).

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/MqCvB7ym29g?rel=0

    (update: 6/21/2014)

    I'm such a slob when recording matches and my machine isn't up to par either, but I make do. This is the first video I ever made in my life so go easy on the comments!

    That said, the Reflect TR is just as much an immortality build as any. In this video I demonstrate all of the above theories and whatnot. I was fortunate enough to have fought single matches, 2v1, 3v1, and even 4v1 all in the same game! And it was no ordinary mismatched PuGstomp. The enemy was in fact great--perhaps too great that their perma made two GWF in my team quit. However, this video was not about PuG teams but rather performing the intended role of a Reflect TR in domination: contesting. I would leave soulforged, halfdead enemies that are easy-pickings to my teammates, moving from node to node capturing bases, controlling the battlefield and occasionally scoring a kill. It was incredibly fun to play. Enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/86BZ2oqs9hU?rel=0
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  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    News
    Some good news to my fellow Deflect TR in <Module 4> this August.
    The build is not affected by upcoming changes to Bilethorn Enchantment. Duelist Flurry is not a core necessity in Deflect Builds, as you well know.

    Info on Bile Fix

    (update: 8/4/2014)

    Rust's Build for Tyranny of Dragons

    Link to Build: http://nwcalc.com/tr?b=cn4:13ydj4:13ydj4,13l30in:130000:1uu55u:1i0000&h=1&p=min
    • Clouds of Steel, Gloaming Cut + Vorpal
    • ITC, Shadow Strike, Impact Shot + Scoundrel Action Rush
    • Whirlwind of Blades, Lurker's Assault
    • Tenacious Concealment, Skillful Infiltrator

    (update: 7/11/2014) Disclaimer: By my standards, high end is the top 10 pages of PvP Leaderboards. Nowhere in this post before did I mention the "premade sandbox." (update: 7/13/2014) But if you insist, may this satisfy your curiosity: http://www.youtube.com/embed/MqCvB7ym29g?rel=0

    (update: 7/7/2014)

    As of Module 3, this only alternate Combat Build that works in high-end PvP.
    Performs the same role of PermaStealth to contest nodes and always engage two to three people. Does effectively well against the GWF and HR.

    (update: 7/10/2014)

    Updated screenshots, text, stats and various things under section one.

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?691441-Module-3-Rustlord-s-Reflect-TR&p=8196751&viewfull=1#post8196751

    (update: 7/8/2014)

    Here is my latest Scoundrel setup for a spike damage dealing variant of this build. It deals higher damage burst + DoT on my daily, plus very high AP gen paired with high recovery. This setup takes advantage of Action Rush+Silvery Enchantment on offense slots.

    http://nwcalc.com/tr?b=cn4:13ydj4:13ydj4,13l30in:130000:1uu55u:1i0000&h=1&p=min

    (update: 7/7/2014)

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?691441-Module-3-Rustlord-s-Reflect-TR&p=8196751&viewfull=1#post8196751
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  • pandora1xpandora1x Member Posts: 725 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    (Sorry in advance if I took a reserved post spot)

    This build has some srs potential. Have you tried it so far? Would really, really, really love to see a video. If you manage to pull this off you're my hero. I'm tired of being forced to perma stealth since module 2 X.X

    PS: That's the most HP I've ever seen, literally. Is it possible to reach 50K?
  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    No worries I already reserved my placeholder posts, plus I'm a poster child for dizzying walls of text.

    I've had exactly 24 hours to playtest it on live domination and I was totally having the time of my life! Yes it's possible to rack 50K HP in OPvP. At least 5x Rank 9 Radiant Enchantments on gear, 3x on your augment companion and 1x Empowered Runestone on companion defense slot. ^^
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  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    *looks at HP bar*
    *chokes*

    UPD Also, why cruelt reward? Just pick Thril of the kill and call it a day xD
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  • crusherbeastcrusherbeast Member Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    That is indeed impressive. Yet i still think that with so low stealth you would die against perma. But good alternative for TR. Well didn't think there is any other way, after all those unfair nerfs, for tr than perma stealth in pvp.
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  • f2pmaf2pma Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    great build that looks awsome.
    cant wait for the vid
    btw how does that black ice drain work.
  • darlenadarlena Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I've been working toward high deflect since I saw your older post Rust. I've only got 2 boons in Sharandar, and 2 in Dread but in another month I should be good :) My plan is for high lifesteal, power, and deflect rather than defense and HP but your stats are pretty amazing. Coincidentally I just discovered I love the black ice gear about an hour before I found your new build.
  • pindaoppindaop Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    looks like this toon cant realy die that easy.
    i wonder if he can kill dc,hr,gwf perma or just stall
    great job.
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  • pindaoppindaop Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    looks like no stealth nerf is comming only gf,cw changes
  • s1ngers1nger Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    It's interesting, wanna see a video. :)
    But still think perma tr or hybrids, will be better :/
  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    f2pma wrote: »
    great build that looks awsome.
    cant wait for the vid
    btw how does that black ice drain work.

    Black Ice consumption wasn't as bad as I dreaded. It only counts combat hours. I haven't been using the scrimshaw salves at all, and the last time I empowered 3/6 of my equipment was last week and they still have about 2-3 hours on them.
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  • pindaoppindaop Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    rustlord wrote: »
    Black Ice consumption wasn't as bad as I dreaded. It only counts combat hours. I haven't been using the scrimshaw salves at all, and the last time I empowered 3/6 of my equipment was last week and they still have about 2-3 hours on them.


    thats nice to hear,
    and how much time and ad does it take to get the purified gear
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    AD can be zero if you're actually patient about it.

    Time is extremely variable, because you're limited by getting BoP RNG drops for the basic bracers and main hand weapon. There's already plenty written about this all over the forums.

    But you're also looking at 35 days of campaign to be able to level the crafting up to upgrade all the gear pieces, no way to accelerate it. 1 day 18 hours per item to make the torso piece and weapon set if you just allow the timers to play out without rushing. So you have quite a bit of time to collect black ice and try for those drops.
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  • silence1xsilence1x Member Posts: 1,503 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Impressive. Would love to spectate a pvp match so I could watch you fight.

    If any of my toons would ever be lucky enough to get the gloves drop, I may be able to replicate this :(
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  • mesaloxmesalox Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Very nice build Rust !! Glad to see a non-stealth build.
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  • gman118gman118 Member Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    mesalox wrote: »
    Very nice build Rust !! Glad to see a non-stealth build.
    nicely said,I'm glad to see a non-stealth build.
    So Rust is HP better to stack than defense in defense slots. I have a build similar but I've gone defense in slots
    ,just wondering how much better.Because when I get hit by an enemy...feels like i was hit by a bus.
    Any advice would be nice :)
  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    gman118 wrote: »
    nicely said,I'm glad to see a non-stealth build.
    So Rust is HP better to stack than defense in defense slots. I have a build similar but I've gone defense in slots
    ,just wondering how much better.Because when I get hit by an enemy...feels like i was hit by a bus.
    Any advice would be nice :)

    In my opinion once you hit the soft cap margin of defense around 2500, HP is the way to go. Other stats besides HP are affected by diminishing returns, whereas HP is affected by the Toughness feat: 9% more HP from all sources. It's often missed that one Radiant Enchantment Rank 7 doesn't give you 740 HP, it gives you 807 HP because of the Heroic Feat.
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  • letojarred1letojarred1 Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    rustlord wrote: »
    In my opinion once you hit the soft cap margin of defense around 2500, HP is the way to go. Other stats besides HP are affected by diminishing returns, whereas HP is affected by the Toughness feat: 9% more HP from all sources. It's often missed that one Radiant Enchantment Rank 7 doesn't give you 740 HP, it gives you 807 HP because of the Heroic Feat.

    thanks for this juicy info!
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  • crusherbeastcrusherbeast Member Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    rustlord wrote: »
    In my opinion once you hit the soft cap margin of defense around 2500, HP is the way to go. Other stats besides HP are affected by diminishing returns, whereas HP is affected by the Toughness feat: 9% more HP from all sources. It's often missed that one Radiant Enchantment Rank 7 doesn't give you 740 HP, it gives you 807 HP because of the Heroic Feat.

    With 19 constitution you have 18% more hp not 9%.
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  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    crusherbeast wrote: »
    With 19 constitution you have 18% more hp not 9%.

    It's good of you to raise this matter so that I may help clarify. Constitution gives 2% increased base HP per point spent above 10. Wherein Toughness feat affects all sources of HP including base HP by 9%. Another interesting finding you might like is that it's not simply 9%, but 9.8%.

    I've made the following attachment to better demonstrate this behavior. (click thumbnail to expand)
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  • crusherbeastcrusherbeast Member Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Haha xD. Yes, you're right with this.
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  • todesfaelletodesfaelle Member Posts: 1,370 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I've always thought that the only TR build that can outplay permastealth rogues are Deflect Rogues. :) As I've said in another thread, Deflect Rogues are another kind of OP, and this thread does justice in terms of describing their capabilities. Very well made guide, Rustlord.
  • lwedarlwedar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    would love to see a video of this in action.
    "we all love this game and want it to thrive"
  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    @Iwedar Working on those videos as soon as I figure out this screen capture thingie.
    @tods I'm glad you liked it. Hopefully we will be moving forward with new builds.
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  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I'd like to duel you after I manage to trade my bile for vorpal, if you don't mind. Want to see how good your build is.
    Will also try to drag some of my geared permastealth buddies for this as I myself is a traditional battle rogue and would like to see how it performs agains both types :P
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