well i guess like all other F2p games its time for this game to become p2w too?^^
i not understand why ppl say this is better for the economy of the game???mb is better for zen sales??
How u gonna make AD now???how u gonna make enchants in the armor/gear u got so easy in DD??it would take u like a year to put rank 7-8's and vorpal/soulforged and what other stuff u wanna...
gl buy companion as well,6 months mb needed to farm enuf AD for it after patch?
And these times are for casual players....(some ppl cant be on 24/7,and even if it is easier to get the gear u want is pointless if u gonna need like 1 year ~~ to enchant/buy companion etc....)
F2p Neverwinter>>>>>make harder to get AD>>>>increase zen sales...
this happen to all f2p anyway sooner or later ;/
now keep on posting how it will be better for game.
Yeah you can't sell bound items but you can get AD from all of them. Maybe not as much...
But the items that aren't BoP will become a higher value.
You keep saying that.
I got 1 question,sorry here i dunno anything about basic economics.
Q; Would you pay for anything you know you can get at a 100% from DD box?
Q2: its obvious that players that dont pay for zen,will make AD much harder than before even if u raise price how long would it take you to sell an item?and again like first question unless u sell it cheap why would anyone buy if they can get it from dd box?
(unless the raid is CN,if someone has finished collecting the gear he need there wont be any reason for him to do raids imo...)
You keep saying that.
I got 1 question,sorry here i dunno anything about basic economics.
Q; Would you pay for anything you know you can get at a 100% from DD box?
Why do you assume that we'll obtain desirable items at a 100% rate from the DD chest? If anything, developer commentary suggests the opposite: you'll get a choice of one of three set items when you would have received a set item anyway. Which means, to me, that we'll still see a preponderance of filler items. We may even still see T1 set items show up in T2 chests.
All the developer statement appears to promise is that our already low chance of receiving any particular item will be tripled. It's a big boost to be sure, but there's a world of difference between saying, "Hey guys, your 5% of getting what you want will be increased to 15%," and, "Hey guys, you only ever have to run one of each dungeon to get exactly what you want!!!"
Q2: its obvious that players that dont pay for zen,will make AD much harder than before even if u raise price how long would it take you to sell an item?and again like first question unless u sell it cheap why would anyone buy if they can get it from dd box?
The AH value of items obtained from bosses will tend to rise because the supply of those items will drop once DD-chest-items become BoP. There will always be some amount of demand for those items, from people who (for whatever reason) would rather buy it now than run dungeons to get it themselves.
but still u got the option to choose,that alone is an incentive not to pay for something that costs alot in AH considering the chances are much better now...
Some of the t1 ''filler'' stuff u can sell for a nice chunk of AD(still need see how much u can make out of the salvage thingie)
After 1-2 months,(especially if u not gonna be able sell seal/GG/pvp stuff) ppl wont be able to make much AD easy,so the whole Boss stuff gonna worth more wont mean much to a casual player...and sooner or later prices gonna drop coz noone gonna spend so much AD to get sth when the chances to get it from DD box will be nice with this patch...(well that just my opinion).
Not to mention getting sth usefull from a boss drop (not counting CN) is so rare and u need to raid ur *** off to do so...
This patch just makes it harder to make AD(for free casual player) And nothing else imo,sorry but i just not see how this is gonna be better(again this is just my opinion).
I was 1/2 defending this change in another thread yesterday. I said I did not like the change, but I could understand why the developers would want to implement it. I did not have all the facts. Now that I saw this post I have come to the conclusion that the only reason this change is being implemented is so the value of Zen will plummet and AD will skyrocket.
People will be making a lot less AD in a system DESIGNED to suck AD from you on a regular basis. The new expansion cost AD to advance and will only make the problem worse. Exchanging Zen for AD is going to cost a lot more REAL money. As it was, the AD flowed from one player to the next too freely for the developer's liking. I could buy 1000 Zen for $10 and convert that into a nice T2 item (sometimes 2). The developers believe I should be paying much more than $10 for that item so they are going to make MOST of the drops BOP....not ALL of them, just most. This is the information I did not have yesterday when I defended their choice. I will still be able to buy the item from the AH, it is just going to cost a whole lot more than I could possibly make on my own. If they were really concerned about players earning their own gear they would make ALL of them BOP. This is a thinly veiled attempt to drive the prices in the AH up for their own benefit (not for the player's benefit as some are claiming). Now the new player willing to spend money, or the vet player gearing up a new toon, will buy 10 times as much Zen to gear up because that 300k piece of gear now cost 1.5 million AD (all just an estimate). If all tier gear was BOP I would believe this was being done to help the game and not line their own pockets with more of our cash. I still wouldn't like the change, but I would understand why it is being done.
This patch WILL NOT make it any easier to farm the gear on your own, you will just be able to pick which set your item comes from IF your chest contains a tier armor piece. This means those having trouble getting gear will still have the same trouble. Nothing changed here except now they are allowing you to chose the SET piece you want. This is being done to make this pile of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> easier to swallow and make it sound like a good idea to those who haven't fully thought everything through.
The biggest change this patch will add is now it will be even harder to complete any dungeon because there will be less fully geared people willing to run it with you. There is nothing in it for them. Sure they can run it for sheer enjoyment or maybe they will run it so they can roll for that crappy epic drop so they can sell on the AH for peanuts (these will not increase in value because they still drop the same). I doubt it. So now the player who has trouble gearing up will either quit or buy Zen to exchange it for AD. Yes, I know no one forces anyone to buy anything. PWE is just trying to squeeze every nickel out of those who will spend money and make it very hard to progress for those who refuse to pay.
This patch just makes it harder to make AD(for free casual player) And nothing else imo,sorry but i just not see how this is gonna be better(again this is just my opinion).
We can't know for sure until the particulars become known. The patch may be available on the Preview Shard, but since there aren't a lot of players on the Preview Shard, we can't possibly begin to evaluate the drop rates and so on.
So yeah, to an extent it is just a matter of opinion at this point. What I can tell you from personal experience is that nearly all of the so-called "filler" items that drop in most T2 chests right now sell for almost nothing on the Beholder Server. We're talking 2-4k, something like that. If the Salvager offers considerably more than that (let's say 10k or so), then this patch will be a buff to the rank-and-file player's ability to earn AD.
The most valuable items I tend to pick up are Vorpal/Soulforged/Lightning shards, and I have no reason to believe that those will become BoP.
The flipside, if I'm right about all of the above, is that prices on the AH will go waaaay up. So casuals will have a harder time exchanging the drops they don't want for the drops they do want.
This patch WILL NOT make it any easier to farm the gear on your own, you will just be able to pick which set your item comes from IF your chest contains a tier armor piece.
Right. That's the key fact that most everyone seems to have glossed over. The developers' statements do not promise EZ-mode tier loot. On the whole, it'll probably be far harder for the average player to kit himself out after the patch.
poypoy72Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited August 2013
I'm willing to pay $20-30 on an Infinite Reset type item. I know it's a Zen sink for you guys but I would enjoy the game much much more without having to constantly buy them!
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hammeredhellMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 27Arc User
Nice addition to the system for sure! Got my Feywild ordered and cant wait as a vet of the foundry also.
NOW - please everyone get on this with me - NEW CLASSES - NEW CLASSES - NEW CLASSES!!!! Content is king and your doing awesome here. But we want and frankly NEED new classes. I have maxed each class to 60........
AMEN... I've been saying this for some time as well we NEED new classeES ... not just the long expected ranger...but a plan to release 2-3 new classes at once .... approximately every 6 months or so for the next year and a half...
releasing them 1 at a time will cause every like "coogrr" and myself and many others who already have all or most of the lvl 60's possible ALL trying to roll the 1 new class...KILLING the Ques for skirmishes and dungeons.
well i guess like all other F2p games its time for this game to become p2w too?^^
i not understand why ppl say this is better for the economy of the game???mb is better for zen sales??
How u gonna make AD now???how u gonna make enchants in the armor/gear u got so easy in DD??it would take u like a year to put rank 7-8's and vorpal/soulforged and what other stuff u wanna...
gl buy companion as well,6 months mb needed to farm enuf AD for it after patch?
And these times are for casual players....(some ppl cant be on 24/7,and even if it is easier to get the gear u want is pointless if u gonna need like 1 year ~~ to enchant/buy companion etc....)
F2p Neverwinter>>>>>make harder to get AD>>>>increase zen sales...
this happen to all f2p anyway sooner or later ;/
now keep on posting how it will be better for game.
Every decision that's been made for this game by this...companey....has been towards this breaking point....going full p2w one patch at a time and hiding their agenda behind exploiters and bots (which are encouraged by the coding and design flaws of the game itself).
I was 1/2 defending this change in another thread yesterday. I said I did not like the change, but I could understand why the developers would want to implement it. I did not have all the facts. Now that I saw this post I have come to the conclusion that the only reason this change is being implemented is so the value of Zen will plummet and AD will skyrocket.
People will be making a lot less AD in a system DESIGNED to suck AD from you on a regular basis. The new expansion cost AD to advance and will only make the problem worse. Exchanging Zen for AD is going to cost a lot more REAL money. As it was, the AD flowed from one player to the next too freely for the developer's liking. I could buy 1000 Zen for $10 and convert that into a nice T2 item (sometimes 2). The developers believe I should be paying much more than $10 for that item so they are going to make MOST of the drops BOP....not ALL of them, just most. This is the information I did not have yesterday when I defended their choice. I will still be able to buy the item from the AH, it is just going to cost a whole lot more than I could possibly make on my own. If they were really concerned about players earning their own gear they would make ALL of them BOP. This is a thinly veiled attempt to drive the prices in the AH up for their own benefit (not for the player's benefit as some are claiming). Now the new player willing to spend money, or the vet player gearing up a new toon, will buy 10 times as much Zen to gear up because that 300k piece of gear now cost 1.5 million AD (all just an estimate). If all tier gear was BOP I would believe this was being done to help the game and not line their own pockets with more of our cash. I still wouldn't like the change, but I would understand why it is being done.
This patch WILL NOT make it any easier to farm the gear on your own, you will just be able to pick which set your item comes from IF your chest contains a tier armor piece. This means those having trouble getting gear will still have the same trouble. Nothing changed here except now they are allowing you to chose the SET piece you want. This is being done to make this pile of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> easier to swallow and make it sound like a good idea to those who haven't fully thought everything through.
The biggest change this patch will add is now it will be even harder to complete any dungeon because there will be less fully geared people willing to run it with you. There is nothing in it for them. Sure they can run it for sheer enjoyment or maybe they will run it so they can roll for that crappy epic drop so they can sell on the AH for peanuts (these will not increase in value because they still drop the same). I doubt it. So now the player who has trouble gearing up will either quit or buy Zen to exchange it for AD. Yes, I know no one forces anyone to buy anything. PWE is just trying to squeeze every nickel out of those who will spend money and make it very hard to progress for those who refuse to pay.
You took the words right out of my mouth..AMEN man PREACH it like it is!!!
This bind on pick-up frankly stinks to high heaven. Ive been farming t2 dungeons to get the set i wanted. But i only did DD events because other wise i would run dungeons for nothing. i was able to sell the items i didn't want to get what i did. Bind on pickup takes away all incentive to play, because you know you're not gonna be able to salvage a purple item for 300k ad like you could sell it for. Guess ill have no excuse to log on except to pray.
They keep changing the economy system after people have put in real money, i can see this opening themselves up to class actions. if anybody starts one i want in.
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kolbe11Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2013
So will items DROPPED by bosses be "Bind on Pickup" as well then? Or only DD Chest items?
"It is said that idle hands are the Devil's tools: Idle geek hands, however, came up with gunpowder, nuclear weapons, and toilet plungers." -Illiad
Poor wording on my part but the result is the same, haha.
Supply and demand is tied together completely. Right now there is a huge supply. By reducing the supply you will increase the price.
End result is prices will rise.
Based on your example: corn famine occurs and the supply drops. Supply drops result in increased prices.
1) The amount of boss drops will remain the same. However there will be five less drops per dungeon delve added into the economy from the lack of the Dungeon Delve Chest.
2) Boss drops are t1 and t2. The dungeon delve chests drop the same loot bosses drop except it guaranteed loot every for every single person in a Dungeon Delve Event.
As such the game became flooded with many of the items.
The same thing the new players do: when you get the drops, which will be rarer, sell the drops for more astral diamonds than they currently sell for.
The problem with this logic is while supply shrinks theoretically raising prices, demand drops because everyone can obtain the items they do want from dungeons. in addition, i am no longer guaranteed to get anything i can sell, which is the reason I only do DD events. I ran quite a few non DD events when I turn 60 and received nothing 90% of the time. I already max my 24k refine everyday why would i want more rough diamonds, unless they want me to spend less time doing dailies?
Just when I think they can't make any worse decisions they come out with a new patch and amaze me with their ability to mess things up more. This could be just the excuse I need to spend less time playing.
Been playing the game (a game that I used to love playing) less the last 2 weeks. I've now officially witnessed and don't want to be part of a crooked company anymore. Thanks for showing your true colours Cryptic! So many people are enjoying other games out there now I hope you're happy. This will give me a good reason to join a better game.
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eljakodMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 2Arc User
edited August 2013
Cryptic, you've completely crippled the GWF, changed the economy, and this is supposed to benefit the community? How? I sincerely hope you'll be issuing respec tokens again, otherwise the changes so negatively affect my main, that I doubt I'll spend another penny on the game.
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torieMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2013
So.. what do ppl do who have no T2 yet and want it? Nowadays groups for T2s (except pirate) look for 10k+ or even 11k+ GS, which can't be done with T1. They will be pretty stuck at that point.
the idea that chest drops have decreased the value of items on the AH is wrong. what has dropped the price is ppl exploiting dd runs. for example ppl are running all the way to the last boss in FH meaning they can do 3 or 4 runs in an event. thats the reason you have crappy prices atm.
If you remember when bosses were leashed ppl stopped running karrundax because it was a lot harder and prices shot up. now ppl are exploiting it and shortcuting the prices have dropped again. you're taking a sledge hammer to a walnut. stop the exploiting and you'll see prices rise. bop and watch ppl leave the game on mass.
Goodbye Neverwinter, Cryptic and Perfect World. I had enough already. This game is just all about money grabbing. This game and the company has made me to be wary and stay away from F2P item shop games.
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spanky2014Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 78
edited August 2013
Yes, had high hopes for this game.
Pity...... well they have successfully grabbed my $1,000. They could have grabbed more if they actually cared about the people who actually spend real money on this game.
First and last F2P game for sure!
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magrynMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 18Arc User
edited August 2013
****in Nerfs all over the shop as I read through the update notes.
The life and interest in this game quickly diminishing,..
After supporting this game right from the start closed Beta and buying the HOTN pack, I suddenly find myself in yet another Pay to Win **** up like DDO.
I've even been stupid enough to buy the Knights pack as well.
To all you DEVs you started with a brilliant idea and now your setting about <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> it up.
I can't understand why you'd take to the Cleric and nerf what little power they have. It's fricken hard enough to solo up to 60 as it is with no support from your screwed up companions who would rather have stretch rather than engager the mobs that are beating down on you.
I look forward to be booted from this game. I just hope that Elder Scrolls is not jerked artound like this game
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derpaderpistMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Making items bound on pickup to my character really pisses me off, since we can't UNBIND items to sell them for a decent price in the AH. If this Salvage Trader is paying paltry sums for items, then this is going to hurt the incentive for lvl 60 players to keep playing to obtain items for sale in the AH. It is bad enough that the Professions seem to largely be a waste of time, given that we can't make gear that is comparable to what we can get from the dungeons. I have gone to level 20 in Tailoring only to discover that there is precious little reason for me to have done so--I can't sell the only items that people would be interested in buying because the idiot developers decided to make them bind on pickup! Thank you for rendering the profession almost irrelevant and useless. Either make the professions WORTH having and developing, or get rid of them entirely.
Reaching level 20 really made the buyer's remorse kick in. At least shirts, pants, and reinforced gauntlets took some of the sting out of spending millions of AD to get the best tools and gave you a opportunity to get some return on your investment. Then they made gauntlets BOP and removed one source of income, but at least we still had shirts/pants. Then they FLOOD the market with tools from all those people trying to get the healer pet. The market recovered from that one surprisingly well because I think many people took the opportunity to grab tools at a discount and they started leveling neglected professions. Of course that just means more people are trying to make money off shirts and pants, and they got into the business for a whole lot less.
Apparently professions were still making too much money so the company decided to FLOOD the market one more time and added thousands of FREE dragon eggs that were available to everyone. That one broke professions completely. I can't even calculate how long it will take the average player to make back the 4+ million AD they invested. The market may recover in time, but it will take a long time. Honestly, I don't know if it will ever recover because, FOR SOME REASON, the company keeps playing around with the economy in an attempt to crash it.
I was looking forward to leveling the new professions. I knew going in that they would be close to useless already, but now I'm not going to touch them at all because I know if there is any way to turn a profit from the new professions this company will find a way to remove it from the game.
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i not understand why ppl say this is better for the economy of the game???mb is better for zen sales??
How u gonna make AD now???how u gonna make enchants in the armor/gear u got so easy in DD??it would take u like a year to put rank 7-8's and vorpal/soulforged and what other stuff u wanna...
gl buy companion as well,6 months mb needed to farm enuf AD for it after patch?
And these times are for casual players....(some ppl cant be on 24/7,and even if it is easier to get the gear u want is pointless if u gonna need like 1 year ~~ to enchant/buy companion etc....)
F2p Neverwinter>>>>>make harder to get AD>>>>increase zen sales...
this happen to all f2p anyway sooner or later ;/
now keep on posting how it will be better for game.
You keep saying that.
I got 1 question,sorry here i dunno anything about basic economics.
Q; Would you pay for anything you know you can get at a 100% from DD box?
Q2: its obvious that players that dont pay for zen,will make AD much harder than before even if u raise price how long would it take you to sell an item?and again like first question unless u sell it cheap why would anyone buy if they can get it from dd box?
(unless the raid is CN,if someone has finished collecting the gear he need there wont be any reason for him to do raids imo...)
Why do you assume that we'll obtain desirable items at a 100% rate from the DD chest? If anything, developer commentary suggests the opposite: you'll get a choice of one of three set items when you would have received a set item anyway. Which means, to me, that we'll still see a preponderance of filler items. We may even still see T1 set items show up in T2 chests.
All the developer statement appears to promise is that our already low chance of receiving any particular item will be tripled. It's a big boost to be sure, but there's a world of difference between saying, "Hey guys, your 5% of getting what you want will be increased to 15%," and, "Hey guys, you only ever have to run one of each dungeon to get exactly what you want!!!"
The AH value of items obtained from bosses will tend to rise because the supply of those items will drop once DD-chest-items become BoP. There will always be some amount of demand for those items, from people who (for whatever reason) would rather buy it now than run dungeons to get it themselves.
Some of the t1 ''filler'' stuff u can sell for a nice chunk of AD(still need see how much u can make out of the salvage thingie)
After 1-2 months,(especially if u not gonna be able sell seal/GG/pvp stuff) ppl wont be able to make much AD easy,so the whole Boss stuff gonna worth more wont mean much to a casual player...and sooner or later prices gonna drop coz noone gonna spend so much AD to get sth when the chances to get it from DD box will be nice with this patch...(well that just my opinion).
Not to mention getting sth usefull from a boss drop (not counting CN) is so rare and u need to raid ur *** off to do so...
This patch just makes it harder to make AD(for free casual player) And nothing else imo,sorry but i just not see how this is gonna be better(again this is just my opinion).
People will be making a lot less AD in a system DESIGNED to suck AD from you on a regular basis. The new expansion cost AD to advance and will only make the problem worse. Exchanging Zen for AD is going to cost a lot more REAL money. As it was, the AD flowed from one player to the next too freely for the developer's liking. I could buy 1000 Zen for $10 and convert that into a nice T2 item (sometimes 2). The developers believe I should be paying much more than $10 for that item so they are going to make MOST of the drops BOP....not ALL of them, just most. This is the information I did not have yesterday when I defended their choice. I will still be able to buy the item from the AH, it is just going to cost a whole lot more than I could possibly make on my own. If they were really concerned about players earning their own gear they would make ALL of them BOP. This is a thinly veiled attempt to drive the prices in the AH up for their own benefit (not for the player's benefit as some are claiming). Now the new player willing to spend money, or the vet player gearing up a new toon, will buy 10 times as much Zen to gear up because that 300k piece of gear now cost 1.5 million AD (all just an estimate). If all tier gear was BOP I would believe this was being done to help the game and not line their own pockets with more of our cash. I still wouldn't like the change, but I would understand why it is being done.
This patch WILL NOT make it any easier to farm the gear on your own, you will just be able to pick which set your item comes from IF your chest contains a tier armor piece. This means those having trouble getting gear will still have the same trouble. Nothing changed here except now they are allowing you to chose the SET piece you want. This is being done to make this pile of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> easier to swallow and make it sound like a good idea to those who haven't fully thought everything through.
The biggest change this patch will add is now it will be even harder to complete any dungeon because there will be less fully geared people willing to run it with you. There is nothing in it for them. Sure they can run it for sheer enjoyment or maybe they will run it so they can roll for that crappy epic drop so they can sell on the AH for peanuts (these will not increase in value because they still drop the same). I doubt it. So now the player who has trouble gearing up will either quit or buy Zen to exchange it for AD. Yes, I know no one forces anyone to buy anything. PWE is just trying to squeeze every nickel out of those who will spend money and make it very hard to progress for those who refuse to pay.
We can't know for sure until the particulars become known. The patch may be available on the Preview Shard, but since there aren't a lot of players on the Preview Shard, we can't possibly begin to evaluate the drop rates and so on.
So yeah, to an extent it is just a matter of opinion at this point. What I can tell you from personal experience is that nearly all of the so-called "filler" items that drop in most T2 chests right now sell for almost nothing on the Beholder Server. We're talking 2-4k, something like that. If the Salvager offers considerably more than that (let's say 10k or so), then this patch will be a buff to the rank-and-file player's ability to earn AD.
The most valuable items I tend to pick up are Vorpal/Soulforged/Lightning shards, and I have no reason to believe that those will become BoP.
The flipside, if I'm right about all of the above, is that prices on the AH will go waaaay up. So casuals will have a harder time exchanging the drops they don't want for the drops they do want.
Right. That's the key fact that most everyone seems to have glossed over. The developers' statements do not promise EZ-mode tier loot. On the whole, it'll probably be far harder for the average player to kit himself out after the patch.
AMEN... I've been saying this for some time as well we NEED new classeES ... not just the long expected ranger...but a plan to release 2-3 new classes at once .... approximately every 6 months or so for the next year and a half...
releasing them 1 at a time will cause every like "coogrr" and myself and many others who already have all or most of the lvl 60's possible ALL trying to roll the 1 new class...KILLING the Ques for skirmishes and dungeons.
Every decision that's been made for this game by this...companey....has been towards this breaking point....going full p2w one patch at a time and hiding their agenda behind exploiters and bots (which are encouraged by the coding and design flaws of the game itself).
You took the words right out of my mouth..AMEN man PREACH it like it is!!!
Too bad it turned into a farmer QQ thread.
My only request is please let alchemists craft solid color dyes.
The problem with this logic is while supply shrinks theoretically raising prices, demand drops because everyone can obtain the items they do want from dungeons. in addition, i am no longer guaranteed to get anything i can sell, which is the reason I only do DD events. I ran quite a few non DD events when I turn 60 and received nothing 90% of the time. I already max my 24k refine everyday why would i want more rough diamonds, unless they want me to spend less time doing dailies?
If you remember when bosses were leashed ppl stopped running karrundax because it was a lot harder and prices shot up. now ppl are exploiting it and shortcuting the prices have dropped again. you're taking a sledge hammer to a walnut. stop the exploiting and you'll see prices rise. bop and watch ppl leave the game on mass.
Pity...... well they have successfully grabbed my $1,000. They could have grabbed more if they actually cared about the people who actually spend real money on this game.
First and last F2P game for sure!
The life and interest in this game quickly diminishing,..
After supporting this game right from the start closed Beta and buying the HOTN pack, I suddenly find myself in yet another Pay to Win **** up like DDO.
I've even been stupid enough to buy the Knights pack as well.
To all you DEVs you started with a brilliant idea and now your setting about <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> it up.
I can't understand why you'd take to the Cleric and nerf what little power they have. It's fricken hard enough to solo up to 60 as it is with no support from your screwed up companions who would rather have stretch rather than engager the mobs that are beating down on you.
I look forward to be booted from this game. I just hope that Elder Scrolls is not jerked artound like this game
Good idea ! I think 100k Refine cap / day is the right way to go :cool:
Reaching level 20 really made the buyer's remorse kick in. At least shirts, pants, and reinforced gauntlets took some of the sting out of spending millions of AD to get the best tools and gave you a opportunity to get some return on your investment. Then they made gauntlets BOP and removed one source of income, but at least we still had shirts/pants. Then they FLOOD the market with tools from all those people trying to get the healer pet. The market recovered from that one surprisingly well because I think many people took the opportunity to grab tools at a discount and they started leveling neglected professions. Of course that just means more people are trying to make money off shirts and pants, and they got into the business for a whole lot less.
Apparently professions were still making too much money so the company decided to FLOOD the market one more time and added thousands of FREE dragon eggs that were available to everyone. That one broke professions completely. I can't even calculate how long it will take the average player to make back the 4+ million AD they invested. The market may recover in time, but it will take a long time. Honestly, I don't know if it will ever recover because, FOR SOME REASON, the company keeps playing around with the economy in an attempt to crash it.
I was looking forward to leveling the new professions. I knew going in that they would be close to useless already, but now I'm not going to touch them at all because I know if there is any way to turn a profit from the new professions this company will find a way to remove it from the game.