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Why Neverwinter is failing.
hmmrsmshface
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Why is Neverwinter failing?
1. No end game content.
2. PvP is terrible and boring.
3. Lateral progression is also terrible and boring (We want gear progression!).
I have played all the Neverwinter games and really wanted this game to succeed, and still do. Give the people what they want so you do not have another dead MMO on your hands. tyvm...
1. No end game content.
2. PvP is terrible and boring.
3. Lateral progression is also terrible and boring (We want gear progression!).
I have played all the Neverwinter games and really wanted this game to succeed, and still do. Give the people what they want so you do not have another dead MMO on your hands. tyvm...
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2. PvP is usually terrible. Thankfully, in this game we have Gauntlgrym.
3. End game gear progression is inherently terrible and boring we definitely don't want more of that. More lateral progression, like Fury of the Feywild. Please!
You're on the right track.
Just keep going.
If you build it, they will play.
Failing my HAMSTER. Played an epic session today game was packed had some good raids played some fun PvP matches. I think your getting your games mixed up Neverwinter Nights 2 was the fail one :P
Git Gud M8!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Cause I'm worth it. Playing since 2009.
2. Again, the game has just been released. Give it some slack, will you? Or are you one of those people who get a kick out of complaining, and don't really care about the game you're complaining about? But hey, if people didn't enjoy complaining, we wouldn't have Facebook.
3. Again... The game has just been released. Module 1 will be out in a month, and they'll keep making new content on a regular basis. Be patient, please. Why not enjoy the Foundry, for instance? Or start a new character and take your time leveling up? If you say "but leveling up is boring", I think we've found the real issue here.
Remember kids: Bragging about having reached max level doesn't make you 'cool'. It doesn't make people look up to you in respect.
Well said good sir , well said.
Git Gud M8!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Cause I'm worth it. Playing since 2009.
Now, what i want is..
1. Since with have 2 faction now, can we not make a Map/Area with Hostility?
2. Make more PvP game mechanics.
3. Make Skirmishes more rewarding, I tried queuing for like 3 hours in Aberant Assault but not even a single game with that instance. I think not even 5% of the population plays it anymore.
No word on when such a feature will be worked on/completed but it's certainly something which they are considering to implement.
What the game needs is more classes, more endgame content (let's hope the campaign system will be good), better itemization and crafting, buffed companions, more paragon paths, meaningful rewards for foundry quests and boss battles which have more interesting mechanics than "throw 10000 adds at the players".
But in the mmo genre Neverwinter has the best combat of all games and is a true next-gen game in that regard. Now they only need to fix the rest and this will be great to play for years.
Edit: And the most important thing: separate the pve/pvp effects of all skills, otherwise this will always be a balancing nightmare.
Also faction or guild wars would be great. I'd play this game forever if that happens. I don't understand why they don't do it. It's not going to hurt the game , it'll just add a flavor. There are lot's of npc factions in the story but none for players. We are just some good guys trying to save the Neverwinter...
This is actually the root cause of the problem.
The game "released" 4 months ago with open beta. Open beta allowed people to exploit and blow through content. Then when the game actually released, many people were done with it.
Not wiping servers at launch was a huge mistake.
So with that in Mind
Address Known Bugs:
Foundry:
[-] Number of Encounters Provided against Number completed by Party
[-] Strength of those mobs
[-] Average time needed to complete against Time taken.
[-] Number of Maps used
[-] same factors as Boss Drop (above)
[-] Proximity to other Nodes/Entrance
[-] Tie content availability to an Encounter group (ie no kill, trash loot only)
[-] Number of Individuals in Encounter Group
[-] "Fights as": Mage/Priest/Rogue/Fighter/..../Animal
[-] Damage Type: <modified by appropriate choices of "Fights as">
[-] Difficulty:Easy/Normal/Hard
[-] Boss:Yes/No (Unique Tag)
Existing Skirmishes/Storyline Dungeons:
Existing Dungeons:
OK that's my "Start" for suggestions, I'm sure there are heaps more that other people would recommend
1. Castle Neverwinter = only endgame. I like to play it at first, but after farming it for a couple of weeks it got boring.
2. Gauntlgrym?! Serious? GG is HAMSTER and swarming with bots.
3. End game gear progression is not inherently terrible. I'm now playing Rift and endgame progression is awesome.
Ever look at the reviews for this game? The highest rating I've seen is a 6.5/10, and this low rating is consistent with all the gaming websites. So they are not on the right track.
The overall content are boring and repetative.
I hope they don't go for a gear progression endgame content tho, it's so overused in every other MMO, create massive gaps in PVP, makes the casual players obsolete. And since this game don't have a monthly fee, i don't see the point as a buisness model either considering gear progression is just a time investment. I think comsetic stuff is rewarding enough to keep people around. Those that wanna look cool, play more, those who just wanna play, can play any content they want to. Gear grinding (or in this game's case: buying Zen) have been in the limelight for way to long in MMO's. I know it's a big thing in tabletop RPG's etz. And people in general likes trinkets. But i don't understand why it have to be the focus in almoast every **** MMORPG.
I hope the new class and more paragon paths will bring some dynamics to the game. And i hope they rethink their dungeons and it's drops.
- Most exploited game I have ever seen in my life, both in PVP and PVE
- Bugs, bugs, bugs... Are they getting fixed? Yes the lowest priority bugs get fixed, the major bugs are fixed after weeks/months or never fixed at all. Look at the companion unbind bug LOL
- End game content are dungeons? They get boring very fast. I don't know anyone that actually enjoy's running dungeons over and over again.
- Not worth doing PVE outside of dungeon delves.
- NW is a cash-grab game, now that pwe/cryptic have grabbed a lot of cash they don't bother with customer service or bug fixes anymore. They will let this game slowly die like the rest of their games and will publish a new cash-grab game.
The game isn't as bas as op is saying, we just need more endgame content. Maybe 7-8 more dungeons. And epic skirmishes with better gold rewards.
And of course... fixing all exploits. It's not fun to die to the next campfire, suiciding bosses, doing acrobatics and so on.
NW is hampered somewhat due to the dungeon design, which leads to people wanting to exploit the dungeons rather than play them as they were designed -- the design is generally hated by the playerbase, really. So that's an exacerbating factor. But even if they were designed differently, there still would not be enough content to keep a huge playerbase around for months on end.
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...and I thought that sometimes I was overly saracastic. Whew!
There is, but Cryptic designed it so poorly. we have T1 then T2 then CN. but because of the design, where you can just buy things and also because things drop so much with DD (loot for every member), things just get farmed. Also PvP gear is so easily obtainable and makes you skip all T1 content.
If they designed it so that you went to T1 first, got that set then moved on up. then there would be a sense of progression/end game.
Also by endgame im guessing you mean long ***, grindy raids with people on coms? coz that to me is not end-game nor is it something some players want from this game. End game is different for each other, some love foundry. which constantly has new content, some others just want to chase pixels forever.
2. PvP is terrible and boring.
This i would agree with, PvP is badly designed, some things are not counterable silly and its heavily gear/enchant reliant, implement game modes that are not capturing points, and if it is then make it so you have to hold these points other than racing each other on horses. Take a note from other forms of PvP, like Mobas. perhaps having 1-2 lane maps where you have to push down lanes and take down barriers, and the team with hte most points after a time wins? I'm not even a game designer so im sure they can come up with something good.
3. Lateral progression is also terrible and boring (We want gear progression!).
Not everyone wants gear progression, but gear flexibility might be a better choice. new enchants, new sets with same level but different bonuses/stat selection. More cosmetics or new T2 gear that looks different, (for transmuting).
Personally i want these things done fixed too, but mostly i want more classes rather than this feywild stuff. I would like to play a healer that isnt designed like the cleric but im guessing i would have to wait a good 2-3 years for that to happen....
and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
Oh look, another person speaking for everyone. Also,what defines a game is failing when people are playing it?
I gave up on wanting this game to succeed, Waaaaay too far down the hole to ever dig itself out. Don't fool yourself: go play something else.
if you didn't exploit the bugs to farm end game overly easy you prob still be enjoying the game, or maybe you piled tonne cash into game and bought all the best gear, another way to spoil the challenges the game has to offer
If you're going to go through with this, make sure that your internal testing of player generated pvp content is extremely thorough...
Also, the cap amounts need to be dropped to like 150. Currently we've got ourselves a game of cap race to win the blue. Brawling should be more effective than capping and running away over and over again...
P.S. Delete the two current maps and introduce new ones that are not blatantly "polished place holders". The current pvp maps are god awful... Far too linear, far too cramped... and far too predictable.
ONLY in your opinion, I disagree, most people who are discouraged usually find something productive to do, rather than whine and complain like a little girl who lost her Barbie. Now if you want to talk about failing you might want to visit "that other MMO's"forums. You know the one that is the elephant in the room.
I'm assuming you are talking about WoW, and liek I mentioned in the other thread... If you would've been here in the early stages of this game, while I was active, you would know I am NOT a WoW player. I'm an FFXI-FFXIV player :P
I'm not going to take anymore time answering to you, however, because I see the type of person you are. Resorting to petty insults when you feel threatened... I'll just re-iterate: the game was MUCH MUCH more heavily populated during the first two weeks of OB, and the forums moved MUCH MUCH faster a few months ago.
The player-base is basically 20-30% of what it used to be. Minus out the bots, and I'd say about 10-15% of what it used to be. You can keep your rose colored glasses on, but this game is dead. Sorry