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  • laudon1laudon1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Still looking for ripe competition to plow!
    Lemonade Stand.
    Dragon Guild
  • lour0lour0 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    P2W = Pay to win, either money or time.
    The more money/time you invest the better you are. On most games, unfortunately, the investment you do is far way more important than your skills.
    The challenge you claim for is just a matter of time, if ever happens!

    But don't think you are the best ones, unless with "best" you mean the ones who invested more in the game.
  • llantissllantiss Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    VS Blood Bath & beyond

    Here's a game of us against some streamer and his guild.

    **warning** they use harsh language when frustration reaches its peak!
  • nightfer01nightfer01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 133 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    lour0 wrote: »
    P2W = Pay to win, either money or time.
    The more money/time you invest the better you are. On most games, unfortunately, the investment you do is far way more important than your skills.
    The challenge you claim for is just a matter of time, if ever happens!

    But don't think you are the best ones, unless with "best" you mean the ones who invested more in the game.
    +1
    GG WP

    The video shows nothing more than a bunch of people spawn camping and 5 people use greater tene + plague fire and rank 8-9-10 enchants bought with money. I dont see any other way for a person who claims to be the best in the shard to gear up with greater/perfect enchants and T2 sets without paying money for a F2P game just to call himself No1.
    Well, when you have enough guts to fight any guild fair and square with items bought from vendor, then we can talk straight who is the best.
    Im out of this thread till you kids grow up :D
  • kulgribnarkulgribnar Member Posts: 84
    edited June 2013
    llantiss wrote: »
    VS Blood Bath & beyond

    Here's a game of us against some streamer and his guild.

    **warning** they use harsh language when frustration reaches its peak!

    Do you have anymore non <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, valid examples for me to comprehend? or have you conceded that 1v1 fights can actually determine something?
  • damianessdamianess Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 283 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    llantiss wrote: »
    VS Blood Bath & beyond

    Here's a game of us against some streamer and his guild.

    **warning** they use harsh language when frustration reaches its peak!

    I stopped watching when that baddie of a rogue didn't use his CoS at all, from stealth or not and whiffed lashing blade from stealth and decides to get up close to melee while Fear creamed him from behind.
  • uncag3duncag3d Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    damianess wrote: »
    I stopped watching when that baddie of a rogue didn't use his CoS at all, from stealth or not and whiffed lashing blade from stealth and decides to get up close to melee while Fear creamed him from behind.

    lol

    nightfer01 wrote: »
    +1
    GG WP

    The video shows nothing more than a bunch of people spawn camping and 5 people use greater tene + plague fire and rank 8-9-10 enchants bought with money. I dont see any other way for a person who claims to be the best in the shard to gear up with greater/perfect enchants and T2 sets without paying money for a F2P game just to call himself No1.
    Well, when you have enough guts to fight any guild fair and square with items bought from vendor, then we can talk straight who is the best.
    Im out of this thread till you kids grow up :D

    I already accepted your challenge i am still waiting for you to find a GF to fight me w/ vendor wep... zzz are you even looking or was that all talk an then you bail when i accept your challenge???
    FearITsSelf #1 GF
    From #1 Guild Pve/Pvp [ Lemonade Stand ]
  • iirciirc Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Can't find any other guild to PvP? Split your guild up and fight each other.
  • uncag3duncag3d Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    iirc wrote: »
    Can't find any other guild to PvP? Split your guild up and fight each other.

    we already do looking for me ppl tho
    FearITsSelf #1 GF
    From #1 Guild Pve/Pvp [ Lemonade Stand ]
  • cyblisscybliss Member Posts: 108
    edited June 2013
    nightfer01 wrote: »
    +1
    GG WP

    The video shows nothing more than a bunch of people spawn camping and 5 people use greater tene + plague fire and rank 8-9-10 enchants bought with money. I dont see any other way for a person who claims to be the best in the shard to gear up with greater/perfect enchants and T2 sets without paying money for a F2P game just to call himself No1.
    Well, when you have enough guts to fight any guild fair and square with items bought from vendor, then we can talk straight who is the best.
    Im out of this thread till you kids grow up :D

    I have rank 5s? using greater vorpal? with no armor enchant? by money do you mean AD?
  • laudon10laudon10 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I watch a lot of Neverwinter Streams, and I saw someone named GCTRL fight Lemonade Stand on Twitch Stream. GCTRL is from the guild Crush It, which is a very good guild and nearly all of them have Tenebrous Enchants and Soulforged Enchants, putting them at the same gear level as the people from Lemonade Stand. I just wanted to let the community have another VOD of an equally geared team with teamspeak coordination against Lemonade Stand.

    http://www.twitch.tv/gctrl/b/417516539 - The match starts at 2:12:00

    Lemonade Stand stomped them in the 1st game just like a regular PUG group, and the 2nd game they played half of it 4v5 just for no apparent reason and nearly won while catching up at the end.

    I tried finding more skilled streamers who have played Lemonade Stand, but this is so far the best I have found even though the GF not the best ever but still decent. You can see by the end of the stream where they still complain about the supposed "gear gap" when I have watched this guy's stream before and his gear is BIS. However, they did admit in the end that they would have lost 4v5 and started to blame more the rogue's spec than their gear.

    Good luck to anyone else who wants to challenge this guild.
  • damianessdamianess Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 283 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    laudon10 wrote: »
    I watch a lot of Neverwinter Streams, and I saw someone named GCTRL fight Lemonade Stand on Twitch Stream. GCTRL is from the guild Crush It, which is a very good guild and nearly all of them have Tenebrous Enchants and Soulforged Enchants, putting them at the same gear level as the people from Lemonade Stand. I just wanted to let the community have another VOD of an equally geared team with teamspeak coordination against Lemonade Stand.

    http://www.twitch.tv/gctrl/b/417516539 - The match starts at 2:12:00

    Lemonade Stand stomped them in the 1st game just like a regular PUG group, and the 2nd game they played half of it 4v5 just for no apparent reason and nearly won while catching up at the end.

    I tried finding more skilled streamers who have played Lemonade Stand, but this is so far the best I have found even though the GF not the best ever but still decent. You can see by the end of the stream where they still complain about the supposed "gear gap" when I have watched this guy's stream before and his gear is BIS. However, they did admit in the end that they would have lost 4v5 and started to blame more the rogue's spec than their gear.

    Good luck to anyone else who wants to challenge this guild.

    We actually had a good time pvping you guys and then you had to make this ******* of a post. You have Steroidz stacked in tank gear with 38k health using greater tenebrous with rank 9 enchants. None of us from Crush It has rank 9s or even 8s. Very few people have greater tenebrous in our guild and most of run with rank 6s and 7. Then all of you except Invis, have greater soulforged, in which 1 second makes a difference in a premade.

    Then to top it off you had a cleric, which made a big impact. Did we have a cleric with greater/perfect soulforged and BiS gear? No we didn't, we all had melee so get over yourself kid. Must be nice having a healbot in Healz while the rest of the team didn't have to worry about dying that much.

    Then you got Kobebryant using that glitched MH Master Duelist's Long dagger in his offhand, with perfect vorpal, while having GPF in his main hand. Of course the guy is going to hit hard with that gear.

    The gear gap comment must have got to you because deep down, you probably know it's right. Oh yeah, once again you also had a healer in that group vs all 5 of us melee. You really made yourself look like the typical teenager with something to prove with your post lol.
  • cyblisscybliss Member Posts: 108
    edited June 2013
    damianess wrote: »
    We actually had a good time pvping you guys and then you had to make this ******* of a post. You have Steroidz stacked in tank gear with 38k health using greater tenebrous with rank 9 enchants. None of us from Crush It has rank 9s or even 8s. Very few people have greater tenebrous in our guild and most of run with rank 6s and 7. Then all of you except Invis, have greater soulforged, in which 1 second makes a difference in a premade.

    Then to top it off you had a cleric, which made a big impact. Did we have a cleric with greater/perfect soulforged and BiS gear? No we didn't, we all had melee so get over yourself kid. Must be nice having a healbot in Healz while the rest of the team didn't have to worry about dying that much.

    Then you got Kobebryant using that glitched MH Master Duelist's Long dagger in his offhand, with perfect vorpal, while having GPF in his main hand. Of course the guy is going to hit hard with that gear.

    The gear gap comment must have got to you because deep down, you probably know it's right. Oh yeah, once again you also had a healer in that group vs all 5 of us melee. You really made yourself look like the typical teenager with something to prove with your post lol.

    did you miss the patch notes where they fixed the double mainhand glitch or something? it's been out for like 2 weeks bro.

    What's this about 5 melee when you have 2 CWs? against 2 TRs, a GF, a GWF and a cleric? CWs need to be melee to do damage? I guess i learned something new.
  • uncag3duncag3d Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    damianess wrote: »
    We actually had a good time pvping you guys and then you had to make this ******* of a post. You have Steroidz stacked in tank gear with 38k health using greater tenebrous with rank 9 enchants. None of us from Crush It has rank 9s or even 8s. Very few people have greater tenebrous in our guild and most of run with rank 6s and 7. Then all of you except Invis, have greater soulforged, in which 1 second makes a difference in a premade.

    Then to top it off you had a cleric, which made a big impact. Did we have a cleric with greater/perfect soulforged and BiS gear? No we didn't, we all had melee so get over yourself kid. Must be nice having a healbot in Healz while the rest of the team didn't have to worry about dying that much.

    Then you got Kobebryant using that glitched MH Master Duelist's Long dagger in his offhand, with perfect vorpal, while having GPF in his main hand. Of course the guy is going to hit hard with that gear.

    The gear gap comment must have got to you because deep down, you probably know it's right. Oh yeah, once again you also had a healer in that group vs all 5 of us melee. You really made yourself look like the typical teenager with something to prove with your post lol.

    1. our rank 9 is hp so we got ~400 extra hp

    2. i have lesser soulforge

    3. i was trying knights challenge & trample to play around, then our healer dc'd then i switched an we caught up an lost by ~50 points.

    4. you cant dual-weild MH on rogue anymore been fixed for ~4 days now

    5. kobe is pve spec

    6. invis has rank 5's

    7. "against all 5 of us melee" ? you didnt have 5 melee

    8. Healsz dont even lift

    Lastly i think your taking this post to seriously.. "Crush it, which is a very good guild" says it all.
    FearITsSelf #1 GF
    From #1 Guild Pve/Pvp [ Lemonade Stand ]
  • damianessdamianess Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 283 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    cybliss wrote: »
    did you miss the patch notes where they fixed the double mainhand glitch or something? it's been out for like 2 weeks bro.

    What's this about 5 melee when you have 2 CWs? against 2 TRs, a GF, a GWF and a cleric? CWs need to be melee to do damage? I guess i learned something new.

    Actually we're both wrong, it got patched on th 12th, not two weeks bro. It's funny though because Fear always says your guild run premades with one of each class but I guess it didn't happen tonight huh.
  • cyblisscybliss Member Posts: 108
    edited June 2013
    damianess wrote: »
    Actually we're both wrong, it got patched on th 12th, not two weeks bro. It's funny though because Fear always says your guild run premades with one of each class but I guess it didn't happen tonight huh.

    I was exaggerating for effect. I also like the part where you don't address that you had 2 CWs and tried to flat out lie and say you were 5 melee. Anyone who goes to 2:10:00 in the video can plainly see it. We would have used a CW instead of a TR but none were on.
  • uncag3duncag3d Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    damianess wrote: »
    Actually we're both wrong, it got patched on th 12th, not two weeks bro. It's funny though because Fear always says your guild run premades with one of each class but I guess it didn't happen tonight huh.

    i said unless ppl are offline. but we can run w/e comp (we are all good) you would like if your trying to say we have to run a certain comp... give me a comp you would like to vs ?
    FearITsSelf #1 GF
    From #1 Guild Pve/Pvp [ Lemonade Stand ]
  • gctrlgctrl Member Posts: 459 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    laudon10 wrote: »
    I watch a lot of Neverwinter Streams, and I saw someone named GCTRL fight Lemonade Stand on Twitch Stream. GCTRL is from the guild Crush It, which is a very good guild and nearly all of them have Tenebrous Enchants and Soulforged Enchants, putting them at the same gear level as the people from Lemonade Stand. I just wanted to let the community have another VOD of an equally geared team with teamspeak coordination against Lemonade Stand.

    http://www.twitch.tv/gctrl/b/417516539 - The match starts at 2:12:00

    Lemonade Stand stomped them in the 1st game just like a regular PUG group, and the 2nd game they played half of it 4v5 just for no apparent reason and nearly won while catching up at the end.

    I tried finding more skilled streamers who have played Lemonade Stand, but this is so far the best I have found even though the GF not the best ever but still decent. You can see by the end of the stream where they still complain about the supposed "gear gap" when I have watched this guy's stream before and his gear is BIS. However, they did admit in the end that they would have lost 4v5 and started to blame more the rogue's spec than their gear.

    Good luck to anyone else who wants to challenge this guild.

    First of all, we are definitely not at the same gear level as Lemonade Stand, particularly when it comes to tenebs, they have a decent advantage right now when it comes to that.

    Putting gear aside though, Lemonade Stand is a very serious, very good group of players who at this moment, are the only people on Dragon I really care to play against seriously, other than doing in-house matches with my guildies. Maybe I'm being naive here, but haven't played against anyone else that great yet.

    As for the skill level of Lemonade Stand members, as I've played against/with them quite a few times now, they are very good, but are they the best? I don't think so, however they probably are the best overall PvP oriented guild on Dragon right now.

    Other than the way they point manage during a match (which they are very good at) I have not seen anything startling skillful from them, even from the infamous Lord Steroids (a GWF notably, for all you whiners complaining that GWFs suck), who I legit beat 1v1 in the second game of that stream and handled him quite well while he tried to contest our point, especially considering how squishy I am with my build.

    Anyways, I like these guys a lot and am glad there is good competition out there, I look forward to seeing how others fair against them when the servers merge.

    edit: thanks for watching my stream :)
    Guild: Lemonade Stand | Server: Dragon (Original) | PvP Forever | 1og0s
    * TWITCH * YOUTUBE * MY GUIDES *
  • damianessdamianess Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 283 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    cybliss wrote: »
    I was exaggerating for effect. I also like the part where you don't address that you had 2 CWs and tried to flat out lie and say you were 5 melee. Anyone who goes to 2:10:00 in the video can plainly see it. We would have used a CW instead of a TR but none were on.

    Yes we had CWs which we all know going against two TRs is ice skating uphill. Stealth > spam CoS > tene procs > dead. Our CWs had to go against you and Kobe while trying to dodge Fear and Lordz.

    Edit: other than that, it was fun pvping against you guys. We had fun, don't know why Laudon had to be an *** with his post.
  • uncag3duncag3d Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    gctrl wrote: »
    First of all, we are definitely not at the same gear level as Lemonade Stand, particularly when it comes to tenebs, they have a decent advantage right now when it comes to that.

    Putting gear aside though, Lemonade Stand is a very serious, very good group of players who at this moment, are the only people on Dragon I really care to play against seriously, other than doing in-house matches with my guildies. Maybe I'm being naive here, but haven't played against anyone else that great yet.

    As for the skill level of Lemonade Stand members, as I've played against/with them quite a few times now, they are very good, but are they the best? I don't think so, however they probably are the best overall PvP oriented guild on Dragon right now.

    Other than the way they point manage during a match (which they are very good at) I have not seen anything startling skillful from them, even from the infamous Lord Steroids (a GWF notably, for all you whiners complaining that GWFs suck), who I legit beat 1v1 in the second game of that stream and handled him quite well while he tried to contest our point, especially considering how squishy I am with my build.

    Anyways, I like these guys a lot and am glad there is good competition out there, I look forward to seeing how others fair against them when the servers merge.

    Considering we didn't use the "A team" the gear gap was not vast our other members brought down the avg team lvl of gear down to point where it is fairly close.

    Im not trying to boast but you guys should do legit 1v1, he killed you about 4 times in a row at your point.

    An since you guys think im not skilled :( i will make sure to take our premade vs premade more seriously next time.

    Ps: we enjoy playing with you guys too.
    damianess wrote: »
    Yes we had CWs which we all know going against two TRs is ice skating uphill. Stealth > spam CoS > tene procs > dead. Our CWs had to go against you and Kobe while trying to dodge Fear and Lordz.

    Edit: other than that, it was fun pvping against you guys. We had fun, don't know why Laudon had to be an *** with his post.
    There is no way anyone on our team can 1v1 our guilds cw's only tr's stand a chance. only way we can kill them is if we sneak up on them.
    FearITsSelf #1 GF
    From #1 Guild Pve/Pvp [ Lemonade Stand ]
  • cyblisscybliss Member Posts: 108
    edited June 2013
    damianess wrote: »
    Yes we had CWs which we all know going against two TRs is ice skating uphill. Stealth > spam CoS > tene procs > dead. Our CWs had to go against you and Kobe while trying to dodge Fear and Lordz.

    We also had duels before the premade started. Did you see any CW win against a TR, GF, or GWF? No, didn't think so and I wonder why.

    Yeah that's great that YOUR guild's CWs can't win against GFs GWFs and TRs but does that mean all CWs can't? And you saying we're using 4v5 as an "excuse" for losing is quite laughable. Are you saying if you lost 4v5 you wouldn't say that was the reason why you lost in a 925 vs 1000 point (not close to you?) match?

    1v1s with CWs isn't even a good representation because CWs can abuse high ground advantages whereas our 4 actual melee classes can not.
  • laudon1laudon1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    damianess wrote: »
    Yes we had CWs which we all know going against two TRs is ice skating uphill. Stealth > spam CoS > tene procs > dead. Our CWs had to go against you and Kobe while trying to dodge Fear and Lordz.

    Edit: other than that, it was fun pvping against you guys. We had fun, don't know why Laudon had to be an *** with his post.

    I just want everyone to know, I am not laudon10. Not sure why someone makes an account with an original name like mine, but I never try to be mean to anyone at all by causing tension or drama. I am just someone looking to pvp with anyone who isn't a disorganised PuG.
    Lemonade Stand.
    Dragon Guild
  • gctrlgctrl Member Posts: 459 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    uncag3d wrote: »
    Im not trying to boast but you guys should do legit 1v1, he killed you about 4 times in a row at your point.

    He never killed me 4 times in a row, watch the video, he actually only really started killing me when the rogue came and 2v1'd me. I legit killed steroids 1v1 and kept him off the point pretty effectively (until that rogue started coming to help him).
    uncag3d wrote: »
    IAn since you guys think im not skilled :( i will make sure to take our premade vs premade more seriously next time.

    You are very skilled, just not to the point I would ever think you were better than me or some ivory tower master :)
    uncag3d wrote: »
    There is no way anyone on our team can 1v1 our guilds cw's only tr's stand a chance. only way we can kill them is if we sneak up on them.

    I've beat 2 lemonade CW's in a 1v1 , maybe they werent your best.
    Guild: Lemonade Stand | Server: Dragon (Original) | PvP Forever | 1og0s
    * TWITCH * YOUTUBE * MY GUIDES *
  • cyblisscybliss Member Posts: 108
    edited June 2013
    gctrl wrote: »
    I've beat 2 lemonade CW's in a 1v1 , maybe they werent your best.

    The thing is though, have they not ever killed you too? Being able to kill someone once, twice, or even three times does not mean you will always get the better of said person. If you have been able to kill our CWs 1v1 every time then I retract my statement, but otherwise we should think about the broader picture in my opinion.
  • uncag3duncag3d Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    gctrl wrote: »
    He never killed me 4 times in a row, watch the video, he actually only really started killing me when the rogue came and 2v1'd me. I legit killed steroids 1v1 and kept him off the point pretty effectively (until that rogue started coming to help him).



    You are very skilled, just not to the point I would ever think you were better than me or some ivory tower master :)



    I've beat 2 lemonade CW's in a 1v1 , maybe they werent your best.


    1v1 lantis

    2:41:00- 1v1 vs lord
    an you never killed him btw, but you two should 1v1 when we do 1v1's

    an get your gear up an 1v1 me i've never been beat'n in a legit 1v1 vs a gf ( when axer killed me i had my hurp derp skills on an i told you guys that b4 hand)
    FearITsSelf #1 GF
    From #1 Guild Pve/Pvp [ Lemonade Stand ]
  • damianessdamianess Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 283 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    cybliss wrote: »
    Yeah that's great that YOUR guild's CWs can't win against GFs GWFs and TRs but does that mean all CWs can't? And you saying we're using 4v5 as an "excuse" for losing is quite laughable. Are you saying if you lost 4v5 you wouldn't say that was the reason why you lost in a 925 vs 1000 point (not close to you?) match?

    1v1s with CWs isn't even a good representation because CWs can abuse high ground advantages whereas our 4 actual melee classes can not.

    First of all you're putting words in my mouth. Second, high ground advantages doesn't mean squat if you're not capping. If they abuse high ground too much, guess what, we're losing points.

    You had 4 guys that can easily cap a tower versus vs GCTRL, David, and myself. If you don't think that makes a difference then I'm done talking.
  • damianessdamianess Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 283 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Anyways, it was fun pvping with you guys. You guys can play and know how to manage points. You have specific builds that tailor to each one of your roles in domination which is rare in a guild. Good job.
  • uncag3duncag3d Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    damianess wrote: »
    Second, high ground advantages doesn't mean squat
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0 pretty much
    FearITsSelf #1 GF
    From #1 Guild Pve/Pvp [ Lemonade Stand ]
  • gunbahahagunbahaha Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 139
    edited June 2013
    Why even bother talking about who is the best? This game isn't competitive, it never will be. Nobody is going to make money playing this game, they most likely won't even add a rating system. The people who are the best are the best by default because nobody else cares.

    If you think there is some kind of amazing talent involved in winning on a PvP map that is less complicated than a WoW battleground you are being ridiculous. If you think there is some kind of amazing talent in successfully playing characters that are less complicated than MOBA heroes then you are being ridiculous.
  • maiku217maiku217 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You all baddies, I 1v5 all. Come @ me. (only if I proc)
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