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Stop saying "It's beta"
conundrumnsa
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It's getting old seeing this in response to any complaint. This game stopped being "In beta" the minute they started taking real money from people and promised no wipes.
If you're going to say something like "they needed to test the cash shop"...
1) It's already been extensively tested in STO.
2) That could have easily been tested by giving everyone a stipend of Zen with the understanding all would be wiped before launch.
If you're going to say something like "they needed to test the cash shop"...
1) It's already been extensively tested in STO.
2) That could have easily been tested by giving everyone a stipend of Zen with the understanding all would be wiped before launch.
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But Cryptic NEEDS to update their site, cause it says OPEN BETA all over the place
So far though not a bad beta.
Like the Auction House that had the EXACT same economy ruining bug in it?
Why did you have to make a new post, when you allready knew there was a similar one?
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?274592-Stop-calling-it-Open-Beta!!!/page5
Beta is just a term to define the state that the software is in. Some beta software is only made available to a select number of users, while other beta programs are released to the general public. In most cases, a software developer will release multiple "beta" versions of a program during the beta phase. Each version includes updates and bug fixes that have been made in response to user feedback. The beta phase may last anywhere from a few weeks for a small program to several months for a large program.
The term beta implies that the software needs further development before it reaches it's release phase. Some companies will offer beta for free while others may charge for early or any access. Some companies may charge during the entire beta phase.
You are confusing the term "beta" to mean free. Beta is simply a way of defining what state the software is in. If a company chooses to do a soft release open beta, e.g. no character wipe. This should never be confused as a Full Released version of the software. Beta is only defining what state the software is in. Crashes, instabilities, bugs are inherent in beta.
This is why the game is in beta. Although you may feel this game is not beta because it does not follow certain aspects of most mmo. It is beta due to the fact it has crashes, bugs and instability. If you do not like Beta wait for the full release version of the game.
To put it simple:
Closed Beta = testing
Closed Beta to Open Beta = Full system wipe and everybody starts for scratch in Open Beta
Open Beta = Game is essentially live, testing still in progress under load, cash shop normally opens, rollbacks to address major issues expected.
Open Beta to Live = No character wipe, testing finished, major problems have been fixed, only minor ones remain.
Live = Game officially opens, no major problems. Only major issues normally result in rollbacks.
Needless to say, there is a slight difference between Open Beta and Live.
There is not going to be a wipe, because the game is indeed launched, but it is and should only really be considered that by those who are willing to take the risk that comes with a soft launch. Just because you don't understand a soft launch doesn't mean you are getting ripped off.
Mmmmm tacos
Yes, if you restrict it to just the word "beta". But when you say "beta test" you imply that it is a test, not the real thing. A test launch for a moon rocket won't carry the astronauts all the way to the moon and just declare mid way that it's not a test anymore. Things that happen during a test don't affect the real thing, that's the whole purpose of it. When you don't wipe a beta it stops being a test and it instead becomes a release with an excuse. It is quite literally releasing an unfinished game and should be treated as such.
Just as old as seeing the constant messages asking for a wipe. Besides which it is Open Beta so yeah. Not sure how you can argue with that. If you don't agree then wait until Cryptic officially releases it to play. Seems simple enough.
Sorry, but no. Instability and crashes do not make it beta. They make it software. Release software of all types crashes (windows, anyone?)
No its beta get over it
officially releases it to play? like how we're playing it now and it's marked as live on the PWE site? It's really laughable, even the mmo sites are poking fun at them and other companies calling releases like this "Open Beta", soft launch lol. Have you people not played mmo's before? This game is launched and live, they want the confusion so that half the community doesn't complain about stuff not working right lol. They will try to portray it as beta as long as they have any believers because it makes their jobs easier.
I guess if they had a button that said join us in Alpha you'd be arguing that it's Alpha. I can call my dog a cat but when I take him to the vet, guess what? He's still going to be treated as a dog... They can call it beta if they wish but everyone that pays attention know the difference. Can't wait till PcGamer comes out and calls them out on it...
like the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink
hey man, just calling it as I see it. every dev is doing it, even good guy valve soo...why does Dota 2 even have a beta tag still? afaik its release ready, using your logic they just just hurry the **** up and drop the tag, but will that change anything? if Neverwinter dropped the beta tag will it change anything? obviously as shown by yesterday's incident there are still some thing to iron out. im not sure why its hard to understand why the game is still in open beta.
It's live on the pay money screen... it's open beta on the bug report screen.
I think you mean games that claim to be beta, while rubbishing that claim by accepting real money. It's not a completely new trick.
Open Beta.
yeah when they drop the tag the half the community that buys into being beta will start expecting them to perform better, less crashes etc. so they will not drop the tag for as long as they can. the tag limits peoples expectations.
^^^^^^^^^^^
exactly, its become a marketing gimmick used across many mmos for years now, for as long as their customers will buy it. and yet theres still so much confusion lol.