ragingmjolnirMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited May 2013
I've seen lots of people trying to stand up for the dev team saying that we should be thankful they're even there to handle the issue because it's the weekend... Well, realize that this is a 24/7 MMO. I can just about guarantee you that someone is there, around the clock, for this exact reason. So get that idea right out of your heads.
Next, I've seen lots of people saying "Ohhh thanks for all the info and updates" ... They haven't told you a **** thing, other than "We will have an update soon" What's that told you? A whole lot of nothing. So quit blowing smoke up each other's asses.
Then we've got a bunch of people saying that a wipe is unnecessary. They should just roll back. Well, I've seen posts of some of the alleged 'AD dupers' on a few different forums. Several of them are bragging that they've done this (since open beta began), making thousands of dollars in real life currency on it, and they haven't even been punished. Others have recieved no more than a 72 hours ban. Ohh no, they'll have to stop playing for 3 whole days? Someone get me a defibrilator, I'm going into coronary arrest. That's not even a slap on the wrist, especially when you consider that a great many of them have mules which they state have not been caught and punished. Matter of fact, these mules are still laden with epics and AD. So, as soon as the servers come back up they will be right back at it again, destroying the economy with a vengeance.
The only real way to fix all of this, as much as it displeases me, is a full wipe of the server. They still have records of all the people who've purchased zen and everything else. That can all be taken care of and given back, probably with a minumum of effort.
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darronteMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
Whoa I can't keep up reading this thread.. everytime I am done with a page.. 2 new pages appears
AH "players" would have much more than 10 million. 10 million is easily obtainable if you are running T2. Some of the gear sells for 1 mill+ easy. Factor in that they've been able to play those for over a month, and its not hard to fathom 10 million in someones pocket. an AH "player" would have probably maxed out AD by now (since 100 million honestly isn't much...)
Right, but that doesn't mean they weren't benefiting from it. The AD had to come from somewhere. The founders packs are the only legit source that could get even close to that. But exploiters would have been buying their stuff too.
If this was going on since closed beta as some are suggesting. With a few people keeping it secret until someone went public. Then its doubtful anyone with a lot of AD doesn't have at least some bad.
While I am sure that Cryptic/Perfect World will come up with a fine solution, my vote is for hyperinflation a la the Weimar Republic.
"There's a new currency today, folks, Yen, and Astral Emeralds. 1 Yen = 1,000,000 Zen, and 1 Astral Emerald = 1,000,000 Astral Diamonds. All prices are now in Yen and Astral Emeralds. Oh, but we are going to give everyone 1 Yen for every 1 Zen they previously purchased, and we are going to give everyone 5000 Astral Emeralds per character per day they've been active.
My solution is only half baked, and needs to include some sort of fix for stuff previously purchased from the Zen store (maybe a time limit for anything previously purchased via Zen).
Hey, just an idea. But there is a reason this has been adopted by troubled government time and time again . . .
Easier solution,
Ban exploiters and remove as much of the ill gotten Zen/AD/Items from the system as possible.
Clear all bids from the AD/Zen Exchange, put all AD/Zen back into the exchange wallet.
Clear all bids off the AH, refund all AD waiting on bids and all Items are sent back to their owners.
Let the economy start from scratch with nothing to compare it too.
If it is true that this problem was known and submitted in closed beta and also appeared in STO, I don't know... if that is true I might be done, because at that point, what kind of team allows that? I can't believe that is true, but if it is... they got serious issues.
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reclusiarcMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
One of you supposed RP'ers tell me where to find RP'ers! Everytime I go to the Moonstone Mask I just see naked half-orcs on stage, and.. ain't nobody got time for that.
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inu755Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 18Arc User
I agree but they were aware of this exploit, it's been reported weeks ago. But it's always damage control they act and sell stuff as a live game promising no wipe vs being tagged as open beta because they are still bugs and exploits that have been reported a month ago that they purposely ignore to fix before releasing the game and the cash shop. Sad thing is how I can have trust in the product if they add more stuff in cash shop than bug fixed each week. It's alright to be affected by bugs, it happens. But I'm not pleased to play a great game with millions and millions of AD and Cats ccompanions hiding in thousands of mules account + all the legit gains everyone got from the devaluating AD exploits. I mean no matters how many bans they handed out AD will be worthless for several months. AD are now pesos.
You know what i have nothing to say to that very nice. i dont think however they should do a wipe or recall. it wont effect me since im lvl 18 but those who spent time and money on this game should not have to pay for such a small group of ppl. very nicely put once again and i know what i wrote has almost nothing to do with what you said but was all i could think to what you had wrote
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That was a close one, almost didn't make the cut for 253.
#forumpiratehat for you
Next, I've seen lots of people saying "Ohhh thanks for all the info and updates" ... They haven't told you a **** thing, other than "We will have an update soon" What's that told you? A whole lot of nothing. So quit blowing smoke up each other's asses.
Then we've got a bunch of people saying that a wipe is unnecessary. They should just roll back. Well, I've seen posts of some of the alleged 'AD dupers' on a few different forums. Several of them are bragging that they've done this (since open beta began), making thousands of dollars in real life currency on it, and they haven't even been punished. Others have recieved no more than a 72 hours ban. Ohh no, they'll have to stop playing for 3 whole days? Someone get me a defibrilator, I'm going into coronary arrest. That's not even a slap on the wrist, especially when you consider that a great many of them have mules which they state have not been caught and punished. Matter of fact, these mules are still laden with epics and AD. So, as soon as the servers come back up they will be right back at it again, destroying the economy with a vengeance.
The only real way to fix all of this, as much as it displeases me, is a full wipe of the server. They still have records of all the people who've purchased zen and everything else. That can all be taken care of and given back, probably with a minumum of effort.
Its like the Harlem Shake but worse! (youtube harlemshake if you dont know the pain....or laughter!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGCCXJItevI
I did. I wondered what I got it for, though, had forgotten about that
But it has to award a bill of sale lol
I was dancing
Right, but that doesn't mean they weren't benefiting from it. The AD had to come from somewhere. The founders packs are the only legit source that could get even close to that. But exploiters would have been buying their stuff too.
If this was going on since closed beta as some are suggesting. With a few people keeping it secret until someone went public. Then its doubtful anyone with a lot of AD doesn't have at least some bad.
"Fixes are already in the process of being applied"
Come to think of it, I never got mine. hmmm
And if legit people spent legit AD on purchasing unknowingly non legit items, will those items be deleted and the legit AD refunded?
I say everyone who has not spent a dime on this game should stop posting till the problem is fixed.
Can't talk yet about how, but yes, ill-gotten gains will be gone. Presumably that includes cats. :P"
oh super sad
@KevinLucks @Qii0152 Can't talk yet about how, but yes, ill-gotten gains will be gone. Presumably that includes cats. :P
Oh boy this game is going to be a bit lighter when it reopens.
Because if you have it still set for 10 posts per page you are just a ****
Easier solution,
I don't think anyone would want to read a book entitled "D&D, Tales of the Whining city"
...or an amazing Foundry Quest!
You know what i have nothing to say to that very nice. i dont think however they should do a wipe or recall. it wont effect me since im lvl 18 but those who spent time and money on this game should not have to pay for such a small group of ppl. very nicely put once again and i know what i wrote has almost nothing to do with what you said but was all i could think to what you had wrote