Envy's DPS Guardian Fighter compendium.

khaoticlife · May 2013

hmm, we might have different AH's

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Lol, it's no problem, I'll wait it out! Great guide! made me find my love for PVP.

supjeremiah · May 2013

khaoticlife wrote: »

hmm, we might have different AH's '

Lol, it's no problem, I'll wait it out! Great guide! made me find my love for PVP.

We must be on different servers. I'm on Mindflayer.

khaoticlife · May 2013

supjeremiah wrote: »

We must be on different servers. I'm on Mindflayer.

Oops, I totally forgot there are servers haha, I'm stupid, thanks!

ritorix · May 2013

I've been using this build to great success in pvp. My flavor of it:
Lunging Strike
Bull Rush
Knee Breaker

Yes, no Frontline. Bull Rush has a faster cooldown, and Bull Rush -> Lunge -> Knee Break is nasty. I also put 5 points in the Trample the Fallen feat instead of 5 into Improved Vigor. I run with Trample instead of Ferocious Recovery.

supjeremiah · May 2013

ritorix wrote: »

I've been using this build to great success in pvp. My flavor of it:
Lunging Strike
Bull Rush
Knee Breaker

Yes, no Frontline. Bull Rush has a faster cooldown, and Bull Rush -> Lunge -> Knee Break is nasty. I also put 5 points in the Trample the Fallen feat instead of 5 into Improved Vigor. I run with Trample instead of Ferocious Recovery.

Im gonna be honest with you. The trample combo is awful. 5% increased damage to controlled targets is meh. People see 25% of your weapon damage and think oh boy that sounds great! Its not. Its awful. Your hits do ~150 more damage and only when you hit things that are controlled. 150 on hits that are doing 10k is nothing. A huge heal + a damage resistance buff is worth way more to you than a few extra hundred damage.

ritorix · May 2013

Awful? Compared to a 'huge' 10% heal that only happens every 3 minutes?

Trample is +15% damage from the ability and another 25% from the feat. That is huge. Control powers are pretty much constantly active on pvp targets.

supjeremiah · May 2013

ritorix wrote: »

Awful? Compared to a 'huge' 10% heal that only happens every 3 minutes?

Trample is +15% damage from the ability and another 25% from the feat. That is huge. Control powers are pretty much constantly active on pvp targets.

Its not another 25%
The 15% you get from the passive is a straight % to your damage. The 25% from the feat is only WEAPON DAMAGE, not your total damage.

renokyozumi · May 2013

supjeremiah wrote: »

Its not another 25%
The 15% you get from the passive is a straight % to your damage. The 25% from the feat is only WEAPON DAMAGE, not your total damage.

Its actually 25% + 25% of weapon damage though

Trample the fallen at rank 3 = 15 %

Crushing pin = 10%

Feat = 25% of weapon damage.

Values aside, The main concern i have is that Battle trample (the Feat) does not seem to work properly as I dont see the 25% of weapon damage kicking in. Heck, I dont see Trample the fallen working along with crushing pin.
(I might be wrong)

I am probably going to retrain from Tact tree once i am done experimenting with the tactician tree though. So far, only fight on / Crushing Pin / Battle trample seem to be useful. Reckless Attacker from Conqueror spec just seems to be the superior final feat a GF can get.

nolfator · May 2013

renokyozumi wrote: »

Its actually 25% + 25% of weapon damage though

Are you counting 25% threat increase as dmg increase?

renokyozumi · May 2013

nolfator wrote: »

Are you counting 25% threat increase as dmg increase?

Read the tooltip : it states , deal 25% of ur weapon damage as physical damage

sstormz · May 2013

What did you drop to put 1 into grit?

rabxx · May 2013

khaoticlife wrote: »

hmm, we might have different AH's '

Lol, it's no problem, I'll wait it out! Great guide! made me find my love for PVP.

Dang man, they're like 20k-30k on dragon server. that sucks

supjeremiah · May 2013

sstormz wrote: »

What did you drop to put 1 into grit?

Because it's one more free source of temp HP for one measly heroic point.

supjeremiah · May 2013

Added a short clip to show how easy it is to make AD in this game.

them1sterturtle · May 2013

Envy you running this now PVP? What about PVE?

At Will 1 Cleave
At Will 2 Threatening Rush

Encounter 1 Lunging Strike
Encounter 2 Bull Rush
Encounter 3 Frontline Surge

Daily 1 Villian's Menace or Terrifying Impact
Daily 2 Indomitable Strength

Passive 1 Combat Superiority
Passive 2 Ferocious Reaction

supjeremiah · May 2013

them1sterturtle wrote: »

Envy you running this now PVP? What about PVE?

At Will 1 Cleave
At Will 2 Threatening Rush

Encounter 1 Lunging Strike
Encounter 2 Bull Rush
Encounter 3 Frontline Surge

Daily 1 Villian's Menace or Terrifying Impact
Daily 2 Indomitable Strength

Passive 1 Combat Superiority
Passive 2 Ferocious Reaction

That's exactly right! I don't ever run Terrifying Impact however. If I were to use another daily I would trade out Indomitable Strength for Fighter's Recovery.

maatisan · May 2013

Wondering, in that spider queen dungeon doesn't it take 45 minutes to get to spider queen? Is there a specific way to zerg through it or something?

derangedtaco29 · May 2013

I love the guide man! Saved my hope for the Guardian Fighter to be great in all aspects of the game. I haven't been doing pretty much any Epic dungeons, but when I PvP, I feel like GF's finally have a mutual standing ground between all the classes. It's actually pretty fun seeing the CW's confused when I'm constantly close to them via the charge abilities.

Keep it up man!

supjeremiah · May 2013

maatisan wrote: »

Wondering, in that spider queen dungeon doesn't it take 45 minutes to get to spider queen? Is there a specific way to zerg through it or something?

Not to zerg but you can make it trivial.

supjeremiah · May 2013

sstormz wrote: »

What did you drop to put 1 into grit?

I took 1 point out of shielded resurgence.

brunnor1 · May 2013

What's your normal PvE setup? Do you actually switch abilities around a lot mid dungeon for packs or bosses?

supjeremiah · May 2013

brunnor1 wrote: »

What's your normal PvE setup? Do you actually switch abilities around a lot mid dungeon for packs or bosses?

Yeah I do. Mostly though it's Lunging, Shout, Surge.

brunnor1 · May 2013

If you wanted to be a true hero of GF's everywhere, you could make little boss fight guides with what abilities(and why) you used on a per fight basis to help out those of us who haven't quite made it in to T2 stuff yet... just saying...

zakard1 · May 2013

do you still use grifon wrath?when?because to be honest,in pvp its not that great and in pve there so much pack of mobs that its usualy better to go with the AOE power.when are you using it and if you dont use it,wouldnt it be better to drop it+the paragon that increase is dmg (staggering challenge) to put those 5 pts in something more usefull?

supjeremiah · May 2013

zakard1 wrote: »

do you still use grifon wrath?when?because to be honest,in pvp its not that great and in pve there so much pack of mobs that its usualy better to go with the AOE power.when are you using it and if you dont use it,wouldnt it be better to drop it+the paragon that increase is dmg (staggering challenge) to put those 5 pts in something more usefull?

I don't use it anymore.

zakard1 · May 2013

supjeremiah wrote: »

I don't use it anymore.

so i guess it would be a good thing to drop griffon +staggering challenge?what would you recommande to get with those 5 extra paragon pts?renforced surge mabey since we use it a lot in pve/pvp?

supjeremiah · May 2013

zakard1 wrote: »

so i guess it would be a good thing to drop griffon +staggering challenge?what would you recommande to get with those 5 extra paragon pts?renforced surge mabey since we use it a lot in pve/pvp?

I never had points into the griffon staggering so I don't know why you did if you were following my build. I put it into the extra AP gain but reinforced surge would work well for PvP.

zakard1 · May 2013

supjeremiah wrote: »

I never had points into the griffon staggering so I don't know why you did if you were following my build. I put it into the extra AP gain but reinforced surge would work well for PvP.

i yea your right lol.well i didnt put any either but dunno why i was thinking you did lol sry

jihye80 · May 2013

I dont know if you already said it, because there are so many pages, I didn't read everything. Can you tell which enchant do you use in each slots? (utility, attk, def...etc).
Thanks !

supjeremiah · May 2013

jihye80 wrote: »

I dont know if you already said it, because there are so many pages, I didn't read everything. Can you tell which enchant do you use in each slots? (utility, attk, def...etc).
Thanks !

offense = azure
defense = radiant
utility = dark
weapon = greater plague
armor = soulforged

offense will change soon when i finish my t2 set

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