Envy's DPS Guardian Fighter compendium.

breffest

Hey Supjeremiah, I've been following your guide from around when I started getting into the teen levels. I really really love the Guardian Fighter class, especially the Lunging Strike skill (swooping in on enemies from a higher elevation is so fun).

You mention in this thread that Human, Half Orc and Tiefling are the best for the GF class, but in your guide you said to just choose any class and that was fine.

I chose a Female Half-Elf ultimately because I wanted to be different than every other buff Macho Man GF that's going to be out there. Because of the lack of beneficial racial stats, is this going to harm my performance too hard (meaning if I really want to outperform the other classes I should start over) or are those racial bonuses mostly negligible? I'm at around level 34 and I made so much progress already...

Anyways, thanks for the guide

akma87

what 2 class features do u use in pve and in pvp? does combat superiority work against players? (combat/ferocious PVP) (combat/threat PVE) ? thanks in advance.

dixa1

supjeremiah wrote: »

offense = azure
defense = radiant
utility = dark
weapon = greater plague
armor = soulforged

offense will change soon when i finish my t2 set

should add the caveat "until you hit 3k in a stat". after 3k the DR is pretty harsh

supjeremiah

dixa1 wrote: »

should add the caveat "until you hit 3k in a stat". after 3k the DR is pretty harsh

This is true. Except power. I wouldn't recommend stacking power though until you've hit DR on all other worthy stats.

sanctumlol

Power is better by A LOT considering you get your power doubled from the paragon feat

supjeremiah

akma87 wrote: »

what 2 class features do u use in pve and in pvp? does combat superiority work against players? (combat/ferocious PVP) (combat/threat PVE) ? thanks in advance.

I use the same passives for both PvP and PvE. The only thing I change between the two setups is I use the AoE threat skill instead of Bull Rush.

supjeremiah

breffest wrote: »

Hey Supjeremiah, I've been following your guide from around when I started getting into the teen levels. I really really love the Guardian Fighter class, especially the Lunging Strike skill (swooping in on enemies from a higher elevation is so fun).

You mention in this thread that Human, Half Orc and Tiefling are the best for the GF class, but in your guide you said to just choose any class and that was fine.

I chose a Female Half-Elf ultimately because I wanted to be different than every other buff Macho Man GF that's going to be out there. Because of the lack of beneficial racial stats, is this going to harm my performance too hard (meaning if I really want to outperform the other classes I should start over) or are those racial bonuses mostly negligible? I'm at around level 34 and I made so much progress already...

Anyways, thanks for the guide

Most racials are negligible but the reason I listed those 3 is because Orcs 5% crit severity is nice, Humans have 3 extra heroic points, and Tielfings get 5% damage bonus on targets below 50% health. Not game changing, but nice to have.

sstormz

supjeremiah wrote: »

Because it's one more free source of temp HP for one measly heroic point.

No I'm saying what feat did you drop the 1 point to have 1 point to throw into grit.

mattkrueg1

First off, thank you for the guide, it has helped me learn my class better and become an effective GF vs flailing around being frustrated that I can't hold agro off of a DC in a PVE group.

Can you please update the first post to reflect all the changes that you've made? I get that you added onto it at the end, but some of what you've said is different from what's been posted throughout the thread and sifting through 31 pages is rather rough. It says you've picked up Grit, but not what you've changed to do so. Maybe edit your color coded text as well? Even if you don't do any of this, I am added a second thank you for your guide. Happy kills.

zakard1

mattkrueg1 wrote: »

First off, thank you for the guide, it has helped me learn my class better and become an effective GF vs flailing around being frustrated that I can't hold agro off of a DC in a PVE group.

Can you please update the first post to reflect all the changes that you've made? I get that you added onto it at the end, but some of what you've said is different from what's been posted throughout the thread and sifting through 31 pages is rather rough. It says you've picked up Grit, but not what you've changed to do so. Maybe edit your color coded text as well? Even if you don't do any of this, I am added a second thank you for your guide. Happy kills.

i think is new optimal build is currently in the progress and he will update it soon.im also interest to see the final optimal build.im currently 46 so i still have to reach 60 but il problably get a respect token when i reach 60 to repair some mistake and get optimal build.

maiku217

I 2 shot anyone with Envy's build.

supjeremiah

maiku217 wrote: »

I 2 shot anyone with Envy's build.

Are you stacking radiants?

maiku217

What are radiants? Lol.
If you mean enchantments, they're all rank 7, sword has rank 9 power.

supjeremiah

maiku217 wrote: »

What are radiants? Lol.
If you mean enchantments, they're all rank 7, sword has rank 9 power.

Radiants are the stones you put in offense slots that give you power.

amirell

Thanks for the amazing guide! One question though :P Now that the Blue quality Ioun Stone of Alure is out which is better now? The Stone or the Cat?

scumroach

Great Guide! What should be stat priory gear wise?

zakard1

scumroach wrote: »

Great Guide! What should be stat priory gear wise?

power/crit/recovery/defence

renokyozumi

maiku217 wrote: »

I 2 shot anyone with Envy's build.

How much Crit chance do you have atm ? how much extra dmg does 7k power give you lol compared to stacking arm penetration + Crit

Only Level 50 atm, feel that power has somewhat diminishing returns already. (Only 5.3k GS)

maiku217

I mean, I can switch over but usually in a pvp there is a TR that gives you an extra 5% crit chance. Here:




I tried the crit, had 4.5k crit (highest I could get with rank 7 and 8 radiants) build but that didn't go as well as this tbh and wasted 5mil AD.
I've used 20 mil AD trying different builds and specs, Envy's build + another slight change of something more my style is the one I switch back and forth from.
Though I don't need Knee breaker or lunge. I just use Knight's Challenge, Bull skill, Shield skill. They instant die from double dmg. Knight's Challenge ticks for dmg if you've got weapon enchant so they can't run on mount, they'd fall. Combo would do about 12k + 15-17k and 90% of people die, if not use your daily.. another 20k dmg.

zakard1

supjeremiah wrote: »

That's exactly right! I don't ever run Terrifying Impact however. If I were to use another daily I would trade out Indomitable Strength for Fighter's Recovery.

so...that mean your 2 dayli is always villan menace+figther recovery?for pvp are you using the same thing?indomitable strength must be nice in pvp

well villan menace is aoe dmg+cc immunit+extra dmg for a long time so pretty **** awsome.i was using terrifying impact and i just tryed villan menace again and it is definitly way better.figther recovery i wasnt using it at first since you said before it wasnt really good and heal was low but using it currently and saved my life more then once,heal is hudge and with the dayli that recover like crazy i can use it really really often when i need extra heal.with this i have been able to solo by myself a really big boss that wouldnt be possible without it.

supjeremiah

maiku217 wrote: »

I mean, I can switch over but usually in a pvp there is a TR that gives you an extra 5% crit chance. Here:

****. Feel Free to hook me up with AD anytime man! My end game goal will involve slotting all power but I need one more piece of gear before I can commit to rank 7+ gems.

rabxx

maiku217 wrote: »

I 2 shot anyone with Envy's build.

noticed he's using the scimitar weapon. I know its really cheap which is great, but is it really an end game weapon? I already have one in the bank.

maiku217

I'm 2 more rank 7s off from making a rank 9 crit lol.. So bloody expensive.

supjeremiah

rabxx wrote: »

noticed he's using the scimitar weapon. I know its really cheap which is great, but is it really an end game weapon? I already have one in the bank.

It's the best weapon apart from Dread Vault drops, which most of the population can't complete, and Castle Never, which again.. most of the population can't complete.

supjeremiah

maiku217 wrote: »

I'm 2 more rank 7s off from making a rank 9 crit lol.. So bloody expensive.

coughcoughhookmeupcoughcough

renokyozumi

maiku217 wrote: »

I mean, I can switch over but usually in a pvp there is a TR that gives you an extra 5% crit chance. Here:




wow that 23.4 %. Is getting those purple armor expensive ? I got my scimitar already for like 5k AD in Dragon Server

And what is the enchants slot for on the purple weapons ? ARe they Really expensive and impossible to get ?

devliv

ya Envy you guide is good for pvp but not so good and 1 think no1 want dps tank in his party .I cant tank never castel or all t1 si fck **** no1 want a second GF in his party.no i reset all my feats

supjeremiah

devliv wrote: »

ya Envy you guide is good for pvp but not so good and 1 think no1 want dps tank in his party .I cant tank never castel or all t1 si fck **** no1 want a second GF in his party.no i reset all my feats

Calm down kiddo. This build has went through every T2 and Castle Never.

nova6t9er

Hey great build but can you tell us what enchantments are where e.g

I know we try to get lvl 7 or higher

offense = azure < neck. rings waist, pants and shirt ??
defense = radiant <helm, chest, gloves, boots ??
utility = dark <Shield ?

Is it something like that.

thanks looking forward to the reply.

Its ok I found you in town
helm= radiant 5
chest= radiant 5
gloves= dark 5
wep= azure 5
shield= radiant 5
boots= dark 5
neck= radiant 5
ring1= azure 5
ring2= azure 5
waist= radiant 5
shirt= azure 5

supjeremiah

nova6t9er wrote: »

Hey great build but can you tell us what enchantments are where e.g

I know we try to get lvl 7 or higher

offense = azure < neck. rings waist, pants and shirt ??
defense = radiant <helm, chest, gloves, boots ??
utility = dark <Shield ?

Is it something like that.

thanks looking forward to the reply.

Its ok I found you in town
helm= radiant 5
chest= radiant 5
gloves= dark 5
wep= azure 5
shield= radiant 5
boots= dark 5
neck= radiant 5
ring1= azure 5
ring2= azure 5
waist= radiant 5
shirt= azure 5

Hey, I'd just like to point out that these enchantments are placeholders and do not accurately reflect my end goal. I'll update with my entire gear set and enchant list once it's completed. I know a lot of people follow my guide and I'd rather not create unnecessary market competition where I can help it. I'm always broke due to theorycrafting new things so I don't always have a lot to spend on the things I need and other people buying out the same things would really put a halt to my guide progression!