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cronis10000
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Class is overpowered this weekend and needs "adjustment" perhaps a "power" adjustment is in order or a decrease in survivability to the point where you can survive longer than a few seconds without a heal.
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They reduced the damage!
Sneak Attack:
Before: Increases your damage by 25% while Stealthed.
Now: Increases Run Speed by 10% while stealthed
Oh, I get it, this is a veiled innuendo thread, ain't it? Sorry, but you're rubbish at innuendos.
On the off chance that you're actually complaining about rogues, you should know that this did happen ^
25% is a lot, you should know.
I really want to know why people wish to see the rogue useless - okay, you got thrashed by one in PvP. So what? Learn to counter them - it is possible.
the rogue is a very early bloomer making the first part of the game trivial but the game eventually catches up to them. try playing a rogue from 50 to 60 and see if it is still immortal. suddendly enemies are too tough to go down in 1 stealth and they WILL kill you in a matter of seconds outside stealth.
rogue has been nerfed enough, gwf has been nerfed too much (needs to get a bit more damage now imho) and cleric kinda sucks. power up gwf and cleric and stop hating the rogue.
remember rogues outside stealth has no capacity to take a hit at all (yeah i played rogue a lot, it just dies if it doesn't avoid being hit entirely), very limited control capabilities and cannot perform any kind of support or AoE damage. single target dps and gimmick damage avoidance is what they do and they shouldn't stop being able to do it.
Cause the people proclaiming there is nothing wrong with the rogue, and that it's not over powered, simply want to play the power class in the game. They are not concerned with the power of the rogue being in line with the other classes, they simply wish to steamroll through, laughing at everyone not playing a rogue.
It is the darling class of the Devs and they simply refuse to touch it, instead, nerfing every other class and making sure they come no where near the rogues survivability. Will other classes be played ? yes. someone will always play another class. The problem is, in a few months after release, everyone will be playing rogues. The game will look like Neverwinter, plague of rogues. Not a balanced DnD game, but a game where rogues rule.
Take rogues out of launch, and see how the beta rogue players enjoy playing the other classes if they think there is nothing OP about the rogue. Then we can all point laugh and say "learn to play the class and stop complaining."
-25% damage from stealth.
you can no longer gain action points during lurker assault making it 1/2, 1/3 as long.
lurker's assault also got it's damage roughly halved.
lashing blade got nerfed from +50% damage to guaranteed crit from stealth.
shocking execution got nerfed consistently as well.
impossible to catch also has been nerfed (but i forgot the specifics)
+a bunch of less relevant stuff...
how's that "refusing to touch" the class?
You're freaking crazy
Rogues are the damage (striker) class (they haven't added others based purely on dps yet),
it would make sense therefore, to,
I don't know,
actually DO DAMAGE
When they get hit, though, it's like paper or glass, kinda the point of DPS CLASS
Instead of asking rogues to be nerfed (when they are doing their job, DPS),
why don't you ask for the other classes to be more balanced and better at survivability,
makes more sense
well said but hey do you got a beta key i can have??
Can't wait 17 more days?
ive been doing non stop testing about rogues in pvp and pve. I will be writeing a thread on it after this weekend. rogues are op it is just that simple. right now they are doing 2.5-3 times the damage of GWF and CW. just HAMSTER difference. rogues should do maybe MAYYYbeee 30% more dps. not 200% more then all classes in game.
I can still move.
I can still fight.
I will never give up!
Considering they are the only pure DPS class in the game, they should be doing considerably more damage.
The CW has tons of CC and range, the GWF has AoE, control, and beefiness... The rogue has damage.
Although, your estimate of "2.5-3 times more damage" is a tad off, from my experience - generally, I've seen rogues perform in your "Goldilocks zone" of 30%-50% with fair consistency, only spiking up towards 100%+ if the rogue is exceptional or the GWF sucks.
Call me a **** troll all you like, GWF has beefiness? and Wizard has control and therefore the damage imbalance in the game is OK?
Rogues whether you like it or not need to be addressed or it will be Neverwinter Rogue.
Don't like it because your class will be nerfed, joined the rest of the club.
are you daft or did you not read any of the other responses to this thread? rogues have already been nerfed, a very considerable nerf to boot, all the L50 rogues i see now in dungeons are no longer the heavy hitters, they are now being out-dpsed by gwf and cw which is just laughable.
STRUGGLING? uMAD? QQ? NEED A GUIDE? GET SPOON FED HERE! NOMNOMNOM
Odd. All the rogue fanatics were happy when they nerfed the cleric for beta 3. Now they get the nerf bat tossed their way and all of a sudden, everyone is a bunch of whiners LOL. Never saw one post from a Rogue fanatic defending NOT nerfing the cleric after it happend, but saw tons saying "GOOD they needed it"
No class is being nerfed. They are being "Adjusted" during BETA !!! and tested. "NERFING" comes after the game is live and launched. Open beta is next. They can and will make more "adjustments" not only after Beta 4, but again after Open Beta.
problem i see with most rogues is they simply do not know how to play the class. They want to be the primary damage dealer and tank all rolled into one. Rogues I group with do not play the tank roll. They swoop in, strike hard, and get out. They let the GF do the tanking. They do not try to be first hitters on the Boss's and mini boss's but more like the Rocket coming in after the ground forces have the opponents attention. then BOOOM.
Rogues simply need to learn to play their class. No more button smashing with no threat of dying. Now they need to think. QQ more.
This game is based on ROLES. Its not like GW2, where everyone can do everything they feel like. It's that simple. Rogues do DPS
Rogues can only do one thing, ST damage. They cant do anything else
GF can tank and decent AoE/St dmg
CW can CC alot both st and aoe and do good st/aoe dmg
DC can heal alot and do good aoe dmg and good aoe cc
GWF can tank decently and do good AoE damage and some ST damage
Dps is not all for those classes, if you want to dps, roll a dps class. Dont expect to do as much dps while beeing able to do everything else.
Oh really, being a rogue,
I believe I did leave plenty of freaking posts about how the clerics SHOULDN'T have their self-healing nerfed,
because it's what they're supposed to be good at, healing.
You have the nerve to say every rogue liked the clerics being nerfed, but that's simply not true.
Rogue are DPS, how many times do people have to say this,
they are not tanks, not jack'of'all'trades, not aoe,
they are DPS,
and if they can't even be good at that, then what are they good for.
If rogues get hit, they get smashed, like paper.
And for the record I never 'spammed' skills,
I used positioning to my advantage, and used my skills WHEN I needed them,
I did not mindlessly mash buttons.
I know how to ****ing play my class, thank you.