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    thany#4351 thany Member Posts: 267 Arc User



    Misinformation and propaganda could be the cause. But this is not the case here.
    There are questions and no answers in this topic.

    Well, you won't get answers here. Example... Recently, lost ark started on the "west". And, well, central eu server was too busy. So they opened the new server for europe. But people there could start only from scratch. There wasn't "change the server" option. And neverwinter is even older game. And, afaik, zax offers raised to 1000 ad per zen on your's server. It's just too overcomplicated. BTW did you even try to play on this "american" server ?!? We from west/central europe sometimes have a huge lag and you're even far away.
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    auron#6793 auron Member Posts: 395 Arc User
    once again can we please get a moderators input on this thread? it's getting way to political.
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    greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,095 Arc User
    Love the pic of the kids holding pics of bacon.
    I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
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    vital111111#1745 vital111111 Member Posts: 38 Arc User


    BTW did you even try to play on this "american" server ?!? We from west/central europe sometimes have a huge lag and you're even far away.


    After reading your comment, I went to check
    the connection was excellent.
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    acrinicusacrinicus Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 44 Arc User
    I began playing this game in 2014. I am a guild leader, and over the years I have played through the ups and downs. I understand this forum does not get the traffic it used to and that maybe Cryptic believes what happens here does not matter for that reason, but I also know there is a community manager who reads this stuff and that person has a professional and ethical obligation to tend to these kinds of posts. There is also a new company (Embracer) that owns this production studio, and the owners of that company have been on record donating relief to the people of Ukraine.

    Despite this show at the top, that apparently is not enough cover for Cryptic Studios to respond to the OP of this thread here or in private, let alone put together a public statement on the war. There is no excuse for not responding to this person privately. People on this forum ask for and say a lot of stupid garbage and that garbage gets mod responses.

    Never, never have I read a more righteous and reasonable request on this forum than the one the OP is making, and yet, no response?

    Shame on the moderators here for saying nothing. Shame on the devs for ignoring one of the most worthwhile requests ever made in this forum. And shame on Cryptic Studios for apparently seeing the plight of Ukrainian gamers as a fine bit of "ho hum." In my daily work, I do not get the opportunity to help out Ukrainians directly, but if I did, you bet I would be on top of that in a flash, because nothing could be easier than having an opportunity to do my part placed on my doorstep. Here was your chance mods and devs to do a simple part, and you crapped the bed.

    If you are a mod or a dev reading this and you do not feel bad about this, you should. Shame on you. I am frankly surprised I am the first one here to call this out in detail.

    And lastly, shame on people in this forum who cowardly complain about "oh, not the politics, pfft, pfft, pfft." Get out of your damn basement and wake up to what is happening in the world. If you want to hide and act like stuff isn't hitting the fan, then unplug your PS5 from the internet and play your games, but do not expect the rest of the world to cater to your fragile needs. I do not much care either for people's frivolous debates about the German people in the 1930's and 1940's, but requesting this thread be shut down without a response to the OP is a dense and uncompassionate piece of idiocy. No company policy hedges against this kind of situation - the issues surrounding this war live everywhere right now. You do not get to choose when you are exposed to it.

    I am off to inform my guild on Discord that I am done with Neverwinter, and frankly, anyone that has even half an ounce of human compassion should be too. I am not playing games for a company that behaves this insensitively while on the edge of the most brutal war of my lifetime.

    It's been several weeks since I checked this forum, but glad I stopped by today and found this. To the OP - my thoughts and prayers are with you, your family, and your neighbors. Please be safe and do yourself a favor and find a game run by a company who cares whether you are here to play their game tomorrow.
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    vital111111#1745 vital111111 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    Hi to all.
    Thank you for your support and interest in the topic, you are really one of the few who were outraged by the situation with the players.
    Do not leave your guild for some time, I hope we will get an answer from other sources.



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    mentinmindmakermentinmindmaker Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited March 2022
    * That this thread has been allowed to go on is by itself a political statement by Cryptic (and also people have been expressing themselves in polite terms about a very inflamed subject)
    * Cryptic might be working on a way to transfer, but they won't tell until it is working
    * Actually, as it is there probably is little reason to keep the Russian server alive. No matter how the war ends, Russian economy will be under heavy penalty economic sanctions for a LONG time which will massively trash the Russian standards of living. Most likely there will be little money to earn from the Russian community for gaming for the next years.

    My guess for the most obvious way forward for Cryptic is to shut down the Russian server and transfer the players to Dragon.
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    vital111111#1745 vital111111 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    * They let me ask questions, are you serious?
    * It was enough to Answer-YES-NO-NO for today
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    kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    edited March 2022

    * That this thread has been allowed to go on is by itself a political statement by Cryptic (and also people have been expressing themselves in polite terms about a very inflamed subject)
    * Cryptic might be working on a way to transfer, but they won't tell until it is working
    * Actually, as it is there probably is little reason to keep the Russian server alive. No matter how the war ends, Russian economy will be under heavy penalty economic sanctions for a LONG time which will massively trash the Russian standards of living. Most likely there will be little money to earn from the Russian community for gaming for the next years.

    My guess for the most obvious way forward for Cryptic is to shut down the Russian server and transfer the players to Dragon.

    Ya Lets move those "Z" guilds on to the American server lol problem solved ....not
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    tchefi#6735 tchefi Member Posts: 417 Arc User
    edited March 2022
    @vital111111#1745
    Hi,

    I hope you and your family are still healthy and safe.

    Lately, the baker girl I buy since 10 years my daily baguette from (I'm still a french after all) was like a ghost of herself, unusually no makeup, puffy eyes, no smile, no talk. So last friday I asked what was wrong... She is ukrainian (could have guessed with her slight "east european" accent, but I wasn't sure and never asked her origins before). She wasn't getting much sleep, rivetted on medias and social medias to get news, crying a lot, worrying about her family (she has no news since more than a week from her 2 brothers who were living near Mariupol. Her mother, sister and 2 nephews made it safely to Moldavia some days ago).
    Quite a reminder that this war is much closer than it seems, and that we should be very concerned and help.


    acrinicus said:

    Despite this show at the top, that apparently is not enough cover for Cryptic Studios to respond to the OP of this thread here or in private, let alone put together a public statement on the war. There is no excuse for not responding to this person privately.

    It's way worse to not respond than to say "no, not possible currently" (privately or publicly).
    It feels like Cryptic can't assume any answer.
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    karvarekarvare Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    In the end, this thread just shows that no one associated with the company really follows the forums. Far too little gets addressed in these forums any more. Probably why fewer posts are made as compared to the past. They don't read the forums and we have grown accustomed to the lack of engagement.
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    hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,176 Arc User
    edited March 2022
    @vital111111#1745
    As I wrote before, that's not how stuffs are done.

    Cuz now it's seems that this server transfer is only your own issue. Now imagine company mangers who read up your mail.
    Do you think you are first one who wrote mail and ask or demand something? There where plenty of players who did similar thing. In the end, they where ignored.


    You need make a petition, get as many friends and players from RU server to sign petition, and then present it to staff/company managers and etc.


    That petition will represent a lot of players, then this situation would be taken differently.


    Remember, that no company will implement changes for one player. You need get a lot of players on your board. More you get means higher chance company may implement such feaure..


    Remember that for company, game is just buisness. And they will not spend money for one or 10 players.. You need bring enough players, so it would look profitable to implement such feature.


    But there is also problem with this account transfer. Have you thought that Russians will migrate allong other players? Which end up all in one server.. And IP filters will not stop players, it never did.

    Also account transfer from dryder server to dragoon server essentially means to shut down Dryder server. Which may end up as both server merging to one.

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    vital111111#1745 vital111111 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    Hi there
    @tchefi#6735
    It is very bad that you have encountered part of the war in your daily life. If you do not find it difficult to show this girl the link (https://censor.net/ua/news/3327577/yak_pratsyuyut_gumanitarni_korydory_evakuatsiyi_z_mariupolya_22_bereznya_spysok), there are several phone numbers where you can contact the organizations that save people in Mariupol. Many people have been evacuated from the city in recent days.

    @hadestemplar#9918
    As for the creation of the petition.
    I can't contact many of my acquaintances, the fact is that we have a bit of a war.
    And the war is a lot of people on the line of contact to protect the country from the occupiers, it is the lack of common things in many settlements, such as water, electricity, internet, the war is a forced stay in a bomb shelter instead of playing with friends.
    As for mass migration from server to server.
    There is another way - manually transfer the account on request, with verification of the IP address (the developers have not confirmed or denied this possibility).
    Anyway, I asked on another level, maybe there are more attentive people.

    And again about the petition.
    If you need it, then with the question of feedback on the forum. I think that such ignorance from the developers, at least, shows disrespect for the gaming community.
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    callumf#9018 callumf Member Posts: 1,710 Arc User
    edited March 2022
    Yes - no response from anyone at Cryptic is appalling.

    Even if they said "sorry we would love to but we can't do it" at least that would be an answer.

    How far away from the world and the players are the developers and community manager.

    Just give an answer and show some f**king respect
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    kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    edited March 2022
    isn't the new parent company owned by a Chinese company who are "friends with no limits to Russia" ....

    as a neutral entity why would/should they do anything about the servers when they claim that nothing is going on in their version of the narrative ..
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    vital111111#1745 vital111111 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    kalina311 said:

    isn't the new parent company owned by a Chinese company who are "friends with no limits to Russia" ....

    as a neutral entity why would/should they do anything about the servers when they claim that nothing is going on in their version of the narrative ..


    No longer Chinese.
    https://embracer.com/release/embracer-group-enters-into-agreement-to-acquire-perfect-world-entertainment/
    Which is even more surprising in its way of doing things.
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    vital111111#1745 vital111111 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    Cryptic Studios' silence is perhaps the policy of the parent company (Embracer Group). But I wonder how the Swedish company will react to the rate increase (https://www.tv4.se/artikel/6cNV5sPAaxdIgAsnItdVsK/kaernvapenbestyckade-ryska-plan-kraenkte-svenskt-luftrum), will they try to sit quietly again?
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    fabricjumperfabricjumper Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited March 2022


    Other than that,, need to distinct Putin and rest of Russians.. No need escalate unneeded hates.

    Ok, we are getting fairly political here now. And I have heard that theory advanced in other places too.

    But I disagree.

    When the Russian nation is attacking the Ukrainian nation, the members of the Russian nation can't distance themselves from the atrocities by saying it is the leadership. The Russians are part of their nation and in this case have to stand by it. It is their taxes, their sons, and their votes being used to wage an aggressor war.

    If they are unhappy about it, they need to find a way to elect a new leadership that has a policy better suited to their preferences, and get rid of Putin.
    I logged in just so I could reply to you.
    In some societies you are a minority no matter what you do. In some societies you are not a minority at all, you are dissatisfied with the government and almost everyone thinks like you. BUT you wouldn't dare to write that even on the internet.
    Russia is such a country. And I really hope you don't have to live in a country like this one day.
    Because if you have such an experience, you will see how funny concepts "individual freedom" and "freedom of thought" can turn into, and you will necessarily believe in the existence of what is called "destiny".

    Let me give a funny example for better understanding: Many people think that the neverwinter universe is not well-managed. So how many have taken a step towards changing management?

    Man is a weak and cowardly organism who only thinks of his own interests. So are you, you just didn't live under the circumstances that forced you to learn it.
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    vital111111#1745 vital111111 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    Let me give a funny example for better understanding: Many people think that the neverwinter universe is not well-managed. So how many have taken a step towards changing management?
    I've taken a few steps right now, but one I can't get developers to respond to community requests.
    Man is a weak and cowardly organism who only thinks of his own interests. So are you, you just didn't live under the circumstances that forced you to learn it.

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    За вас правда, за вас слава І воля святая!
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    finmakinfinmakin Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited March 2022
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    hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,176 Arc User
    edited March 2022


    It is said, when person come for shelter, he/she will ask, but not demand.

    Most Ukrainians now try survive war, the game is not their priority now..
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    vital111111#1745 vital111111 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    @hadestemplar#9918

    You are again trying to manipulate))) by mixing two separate comments from different people.
    I repeat, I just wanted an answer to a specific question, and I was outraged only by the ignore (the activity of the manager on the forum during this time is quite high).
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    greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,095 Arc User
    Sometimes it helps to flag @nitocris83 to get her attention.
    I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
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    karvarekarvare Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    You do realize most questions asked on these forums are ignored. Now more than ever.
    Not commenting on your request, just pointing out how dead these forums have been when it comes to ANY response from Cryptic.
    Good luck and I hope you at least get a private response, but ...
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    hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,176 Arc User
    edited April 2022

    @hadestemplar#9918

    You are again trying to manipulate))) by mixing two separate comments from different people.
    I repeat, I just wanted an answer to a specific question, and I was outraged only by the ignore (the activity of the manager on the forum during this time is quite high).




    Lets see..

    During the stream I was in a bomb shelter (all is well).
    I did not look at the record, I am counting on the answer in this topic. Today I came across the following:



    Is this something official?
    You took Reddit thread, where some ask/demand Cryptic/Perfect world to shut down russian server.
    And respond from moderator where that game have nothing to do with in Ukraine..
    This reddit topic where created not by staff, so it's not official, and it's not a word about shutting down russian server..

    Yet you still press the question can staff transfer your account from russian server to Dragoon( international).

    Then next your next post.

    Hello everybody.
    I have another question, is it a common situation at the international forum that developers ignore one of the popular topics (based on the number of views)?
    Especially since the issue is not political, but purely technical.
    If you agree that this situation shows disrespect to the gaming community, please share this topic with your friends, guilds, game discords, and possibly other games in this studio.




    With comment realated to redddit topic you should understood that there is no official stand for either shut down russian server or not.. Yet you try create motion as it would be like that..



    Now thing what is obvious, if staff would say they can't implement such feature, you will call them Russian supporters..
    IN short you try use moral stands for own advantage..

    So who's manipulator here??

    And here is other thing, if account transfer feature gets implemented here what will happens.

    From very moment such feature gets operational, most drider playebase sumbit request to transfer accounts to dragoon ( international) server.. Which mean Russians will migrated to Dragoon server too.

    The system for submited request will be automated, cuz the quantity of request would be high enough for publisher( perfect world inc west) to verify for half year. That's including fact they would had ignore support service tickets which covers not just Neverwinter but all other ARC client games..



    You wrote.


    As for mass migration from server to server.
    There is another way - manually transfer the account on request, with verification of the IP address (the developers have not confirmed or denied this possibility).
    Anyway, I asked on another level, maybe there are more attentive people.

    To hide/mask your true IP is easy thing in these days. Enough to use VPN and staff would see that player is not from russia, so they had to transfer account..

    Also even now I know over 20 russian who play in Dragoon server.

    So this account transfer thing will end up as Drider( russian) and Dragoon( International) servers merging. Cuz game publisher would not keep one server full and other nearly empty.

    So what the point for them even bother with one or two players account transfer if that would lead to both server merging anyways??

    The whole point is create pannic that Cryptic/Perfect world may shut down sever, and discourage players log in to Drider server, and since it become less and less populated, thats lead to it's shut down..

    Thats whole point here..


    Also in last 5 days I visited some of my previous played games.. I found similar situation there too. Some threads which moderators didn't delete where similar that what @hydramist176#3517 posted here..


    Players question companies moral stands and demand that they either ban Russian players and shut down localised servers.
    And if they don't do that, they get called as supporting Russian policy.

    The game publishers do not particiapte in such threads, they don't want get involved in polical stuffs.. So no wonder they do not replay here.
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    vital111111#1745 vital111111 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    @hadestemplar#9918

    You do not understand me, or really, intertwining comments, trying to continue to manipulate (this is very noticeable))).
    I repeat for you, the only question is whether it is possible to transfer the account in any way. Everything.
    I did not raise the issue of closing the server here and I will not (this is not the competence of Cryptic Studios).
    I was also surprised by the manager's ignorance, to put it mildly, very strange.
    I hope now you understand what we are talking about)))
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    hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,176 Arc User
    edited April 2022

    @hadestemplar#9918

    You do not understand me, or really, intertwining comments, trying to continue to manipulate (this is very noticeable))).
    I repeat for you, the only question is whether it is possible to transfer the account in any way. Everything.
    I did not raise the issue of closing the server here and I will not (this is not the competence of Cryptic Studios).
    I was also surprised by the manager's ignorance, to put it mildly, very strange.
    I hope now you understand what we are talking about)))

    I do understand you and thats what you don't like.



    I wrote before few times and I can repeat it again..


    First, there is no official statement from staff that they would close/shut down Drider( russian server)..
    Yet you try make motion as it would happen that..

    Second:

    Account transfer, there where request for such feature two years ago. Yet it was decided not implement due various reasons.

    So there is no account transfer so far, not as like coppy whole stuffs you had in one sever and move to other..

    If that feature( account trasnfer) gets implemented, then it would lead to Dragoon( international) and Drider( Russian) servers being merge in to one.

    That't not good buisness for company.


    I even wrote you, if you want account transfer you need bring pettition. That would represent group of players for same goal. Yet you didn't do that.

    I also want to mention, I know dozen players from Ukraine, they reliquished any connection to Drider server and star fresh start in Dragoon server..


    If you would trully wanted to left drider sever, you would have done that..

    Hello everybody.
    I have another question, is it a common situation at the international forum that developers ignore one of the popular topics (based on the number of views)?
    Especially since the issue is not political, but purely technical.
    If you agree that this situation shows disrespect to the gaming community, please share this topic with your friends, guilds, game discords, and possibly other games in this studio.



    You braging why developers didn't respond to your question in short time and also try imply that this thread is very popular topic.
    Have you even looked to ZAX thread, view/comment and participants count??



    Then claiming that this issue, is technical not political..
    The technical problem would be if you have very high latency or can't even log in to the game, nonstop disconnections.
    And thats not the case, the real reason is to tranfer account from one server to other due political reasons..

    This part is understandable, no one want play in same nation with which you have war..
    But to claim it's technical issue, is a lie.


    And then you wrote:
    If you agree that this situation shows disrespect to the gaming community, please share this topic with your friends, guilds, game discords, and possibly other games in this studio.


    Trying rally other forum members and portrait portrait staff of Cryptic/Perfect World as Rude, disrespectfull.
    Cuz they didn't do as you ask.

    This acts as try blackmail. Either company do as you want or portrait as company who's support russians.


    And the even image from same comment indicate your attitude toward account transfer. Not much a request,, more like act of bully.



    Even the other of your comment in this thread..

    I'll just leave it here

    CD Projekt Red (CDPR)
    Bloober Team
    Electronic Arts (EA)
    Microsoft
    Bethesda
    Kevuru Games
    Steam
    Activision Blizzard
    Rockstar Games
    Amazon
    Epic Games (?)
    Ubisoft

    For what purpose it was made?? Seemingly unimportant comment.. Untill you do some checking..


    Ubisoft
    https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/7/22965890/ubisoft-take-two-blocking-game-sales-russia-ukraine-invasion

    Bethesda
    https://www.gamereactor.eu/bethesda-suspends-russian-and-belarussian-players-from-competing-in-the-quake-pro-league-and-quake-challengers/

    Electronic Arts (EA)
    https://www.polygon.com/22961678/electronic-arts-stopping-sales-russia-belarus-sanctions-ukraine


    Should I add rest??

    This list show's which companies bans/blocks/suspend russian players.. Why you added?? I have nothing to do with account transfer..

    The list act as acheavement list,, the companies which where convinced to ban/block russian players.


    You say, that you want just transfer your account.. Your claims is one, but your actions do shows different intentions.



    Through years of playing various mmo games I already so various players who try take advantage of situation and manipulate companies.. And I despise such players. Cuz due such actions you cause problems to other players and community members.. Even ones who have nothing to do with situations..


    Also, have you though that due your comment, it become way harder to convice developers implement account transfer?


    There is only one way to convice developers implement account transfer, and it's only via petition. Via it you may represent multiple players, and with enough of them you convice companies that it's more profitable to implement this feature.
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    Gustave Le Bon.

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