holaaaa and srr for my english, BABY ZARIEL here, TOMM is second end game content, with one of the BIS wepon set in entire game, i know ppl wana make it nerf, and nerf wepon bonus..... but..... alot of end game player spent week to lern mechanic, spent alot of AD for potion ,stone.....so is no point to nerf it, another think wat i think, TOMM need to be bufed, like put more time on F3 and increase halaster HP by 100 mil or more, why ? now is mod 19, md then all helers be nerfed, but... we stil can do it with 1 tank, and 1 op heler, so why you speak abaut nerfing TOMM, so plz never nerf TOMM
BABY ZARIEL.... 270k base HUNTER
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It must be like that to ever provide new challenges and new goals for the player base to keep them playing.
We have all invested much effort in gear and stuff, only to see it become useless with next mod.
If you can't live with that, you probably should not be playing an mmorpg.
In my opinion upgrading the ToMM weapons actually was a mistake. At least they should have left the old ToMM weapons as they were and just updated new drops.
Getting the second BIS weapon there is a good thing because people try to improve themself to succeed, and be zariel ready.
BTW, if you don't have TOMM weapons, why do you want to do zariel challenge in the first place ? And if you are not taken in groups for zariel, try making your own and you will quickly see why people ask for lionheart weapons.
Don't you have the quest for killing Halaster too? Why do you want to skip some step?
> Like i said, this is not a requirement, just common sense.
> Don't you have the quest for killing Halaster too? Why do you want to skip some step?
But the flaw is, its not common sense.
To be honest, why make it so the BiS weapons are rewards for AFTER you beat the Dungeon? Then what do you do? You already have BiS so what do grind for?
With this method, you HAVE to skip steps. The only way to beat end game dungeon is to get BiS gear to beat dungeons to get BiS gears... flawed.
The mod 19 campaign offers you better weapons than Alabaster to beat TOMM, it's a way to help the one struggling with TOMM.
And after you beat Zariel you get the best weapons making it easier helping the one farming their weapons, always been like this.
amm... haw you beett zariel if you cant beat tomm ? nothink personal, but you need speant alot of time ti grind tomm, to understand mecha, you can do low dmg, but ppl take you if you can survive, and if you know mecha, then TOMM came to live, i never do crazy dmg as HR, but i spent abaut every dai for 4 h to training tomm to understand mecha, , after wat i go from groop to groop, and ppl start invite me not for my dmg, becose i can survive
and like i say, you same need do training for zariel ( 1 mistake and you can kill all party) its not easy, + no lion wepon = no zariel, maybe ara dont have hard mechanic, but mecha spon fast , and alot of time i dont say you bad, i wana say you still need LION wepon to go zara
If you skip all the hard content, and don't want to do any training, you better skip Zariel too.
You don't have the good attitude, TOMM or Zariel requires maybe 30h training at least if you are average, more if you are not enough fast or have difficulties understanding mecanisms. You can't hope beating this content by running it 2-3 times.
All your friends with weapons had the good attitute, they work for their weapons, and spend a lot of time learning and training.
BTW the easy version of the trial is not out yet, maybe in a few weeks it will be on live server.
This horses**t attitude of you MUST have this weapon, and this chest and these boots and these gloves.
You MUST do this rotation, and use this paragon.
If I do not see these gears and blah blah then you do not get a chance for invite to show that there is more than one way to win.
I mean no disrespect to those that have done ToMM or ZC.
I know that SOMETIMES there is some truth to what they are saying, but there is just as much BS,
I mean have any of you even tried doing Zariel with Legion weapons? HELL even hellfire ones?
I am guessing thats a big fat NO since 90% of the server cant even get legions.
So this assumption of MUST have Lionhearts is complete nonsense.
Maybe if you have no skill, and are nothing but a meta copy of someone else's build then you have no hope without Lionhearts.
But there are plenty of people out there that are more than capable without needing BiS (cough --- mostly someone opinion only, your BiS may be my junk. case in point Orc Set... never liked that stupid set granted most times i ran stuff bosses were being burned in 1min or less making that set mostly useless)
God forbid it takes 5 minutes longer to run a dungeon because someone is not wearing the "right" gear.
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The game itself doesn't force specific items or builds or whatever, yes there is minimum damage you must be able to take, but how to deal with it is also up to the you, mitigation, hp or any solution.
So with plenty people around with the same notion why not just group up and do it? (I'm not sarcastic).
btw, while we can look at situational best items, for the group, for the level and so on where what is considered "BiS" will not be the best option, BiS is usually referred as absolute "what is the best composition of all the possible compositions conceivable"
Besides the point, but not sure why Orcus will be useless in 1min fight.
The game has been filled to the brim with content nerfs ( direct or indirect like the Lionheart buff / new ridiculously stronger campaign weapons ) and the developers handing out dirt cheap BiS enchants/insignias/mounts/race/companions for over a year now and yet i still see people that have no clue how to do the 1 mechanic in IC bosses complain about * end gamers * or * elitists * or * exclusivity * in * end game content * that has maybe 4 mechanics in it.
Run it with whatever setup you like. And if you dont want to do it, dont do it. No need to complain about it.
Then clearly you have no idea what Orcus set did. I do not want to turn this into a hijacking ... so keep the topic on the content at hand.
But just to clarify ... in order to gain a "significant" enough damage boost a boss needed to have lower HP. say for the purposes of the argument < 50% HP. If a boss fight lasts 30s then you have little to no time where that even happens. Most of the time after 50% bosses were being 1,2,3 shotted and its becomes a matter of HE WHO HIT FIRST HIT MOST.
Codg is much like that these days. DPS charts in there mean very little as its all about HE WHO BUFF UP AT THE RIGHT TIME and plant at wizard location, hit the boss/wizard hard first will be on top most of the time.
As far as making my own group goes I will if need be. I have no worries, nor do I need to rush.
That does not change my original point about peoples attitudes.