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[UPDATE] 32-Bit Windows OS Support
nitocris83
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This has now been completed. Support of 32-bit Windows OS has ended of of today, July 18.
Greetings Adventurers,
As of July 18th, 2019, Neverwinter will no longer support any 32-Bit Microsoft Windows Operating System. This decision was made in order to improve game performance and to optimize the player experience. In order to make this transition as smooth as possible, we have put together a quick FAQ.
What is the timeline for these changes?
You will have plenty of time to upgrade!
After May 21st, 2019, if you are running on any 32-bit Microsoft Windows Operating System, the launcher will inform you of that fact.
As of July 18th, 2019, Neverwinter will no longer support any 32-Bit Microsoft Windows Operating System.
What Operating System should I be upgrading to?
For the best play experience, Cryptic Studios recommends Windows 10.
The game will run on Windows Vista Service Pack 2 64-Bit or better, or Windows 7 or 8 as well. Be aware that Microsoft has discontinued support for Windows Vista as of April 2017, although we continue to support it, for now.
Please feel free to discuss this change in this thread, and let us know any further questions. We will be updating this thread with any additional notices or clarifications as needed.
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That's right! No one.
It was fun to play in this f2p p2w mmo. glhf
P.S. Pls fix already reward bug problem.
P.P.S. And yeah. A lot of good work was made from CBT, which i just missed. (but i've had the CBT key. Yay)
P.P.P.S. Remember only minigame in browser for player pets.
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And they're still supporting the version *after* the one you're running, which also is well past end of life.
It's not unreasonable to ask people to use computers manufactured "sometime in the previous decade and a half" to play your online game. Once it becomes a viable desktop OS.
So, "two years from now", an answer that is as correct now as it was ten years ago and as it will continue to be ten years from now. Again, this literally only affects people running an OS released *16 years ago* and that was deemed "too unsafe to be allowed on the internet, should not be used by anyone" 5 years ago.
You can run Neverwinter on a potato, as long as the potato is from 2007 or newer.
ok but hang on im running windows 10 on a 32bit cause mines a work pc and it aint 16 years old heck its only about 3 years old and the laptop cant run it well unless u fork out like a grand or more for a "gaming one" with higher graphic specs so please spare us the " ohh look at all u ppl who cant afford new things " stick they lost a lot of players cause of mod 16 and them cutting 32bit will hurt them even more
also mircosoft windows 10 has a 32 bit version they released it for ppl who are upgrading from windows 7 and 8 ,, so why would you get rid of support for it
This is annoying as queues to dungeons are sound driven in game and I use them to know when I need to do certain parts of the event.
FYI, the 32 bit client doesn't have this issue.
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See this article for some info on upgrading to 64 bit: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-upgrade-32-bit-64-bit-version-windows-10
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Clearly you really have no knowledge in computers, otherwise you'd know that 32 bit and 64 bit have nothing to do with the operating system and more to do with the chipset architecture your CPU and motherboard run on, and that the 32 bit architecture has no end of life.
I never said it was unreasonable to use a newer system, so don't put words in my mouth. I said some players will not have the opportunity to upgrade their machines by then.
Unless you're still running stuff written for Win95, or running a computer from before 64-bit processors became standard (so, *2004*), you should just apply the free upgrade to Win10 x64 using the assistant (In fact, you should have done that years ago). If you're still running Win95 programs, or on hardware from 2003 or earlier, you should probably just accept that you can't run a 2019 MMO on the same computer.
And if you purchased that computer in 2014, I would be *shocked* if it doesn't have a 64-bit architecture underneath, even if you're running the 32-bit version of the OS for some reason. 32-bit desktop/laptop processors have been obsolete since the mid-2000s. They're a special order. 32-bit versions of desktop OSes have been obsolete since 2009, and the last "32-bit preferred" OS hit hard EoL in 2014.
The 32-bit architecture is obsolete, antiquated, rare, and only for hobbyists and specialised applications. Neverwinter is neither of those things. If you're running x86 Windows in 2019, you either have a good reason for it and you should know enough to expect modern programs to not always behave properly, or you don't have a good reason for it and should just do the (free) upgrade to Win10 x64. And I'm saying that "your machine to run Neverwinter is something that was reasonably current at some point in the last decade" isn't an unreasonable expectation from the Neverwinter team. Your workplace is providing 32-bit OSes (presumably for backwards compatibility with "enterprise-critical" obsolete software, which is usually a sign of a big company), but they're okay with you playing an MMO on it?
And: a laptop from 10 years ago will need to be a fairly expensive one to run Neverwinter well, sure. Modern laptops not so much - Neverwinter's requirements are low, as video games go. A Dell Inspiron will run you $600 right now and give perfectly acceptable performance, with way over the minimum specs. Used/Refurbs are even better for the same price. Desktops give you much better performance/dollar, as well - a Lenovo Thinkcentre with SSD, 16GB RAM, i5 processor, Win10 x64, and Intel HD 630 is only about $600 and it will run Neverwinter perfectly on all but the highest graphics settings. A refurb desktop from a few years ago can go as low as $200 and get you good performance on medium-low settings. All of those are commercial, of course - buying a used PC from someone who's upgrading can get you even better, for cheaper.
(There's a lower limit to how cheap computers get, unfortunately: You can't pay *only* for "what you need to run Neverwinter", you need to pay more than that because your computer will be able to do many other things too.) Because it's obsolete and it takes time and resources to support, for a vanishingly small percentage of users. Some of those users have a free upgrade available to a supported OS, others are using a machine that can't get into support because it's ancient or because they have other concerns (eg, "work") that prevent them from upgrading, and will be stuck needing to spend money.
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> Does the 64 bit client still have the issue with causing the sounds in the game to stop playing in content
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yes
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> FYI, the 32 bit client doesn't have this issue.
ohh
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#!/bin/bash rm *.log export WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.Wine64" export WINESERVER="$HOME/.wine-current/bin/wineserver" export WINELOADER="$HOME/.wine-current/bin/wine" export WINEDEBUG="-all" export WINEDLLPATH="$HOME/.wine-current/lib/wine" $WINELOADER Neverwinter.exeThat first line is optional, a lot of small .log files seem to build up over time. The virtual drive is called Wine64 and Debugger is turned off to allow the game to run better.
My husband suggests you try several Linux distributions as they can be burned to a DVD and booted for trial prior to installation. Mint is very popular with former Windows users, Ubuntu has a flavor called Kubuntu which is the K desktop environment (similar to Windows) or Debian with the Gnome desktop. Find out which OS distribution feels right for you.
Cool, thanks. I'll give it a go over the weekend. I've used different Linux distros, off an on, in the past (mainly to get the most out of older hardware). I picked Mint because it has a familiar interface (not looking to get all geeky over using it), is well supported and has the choice to install propriety drivers right off the bat. Although to be fair, I've rarely had issues with hardware compatibility in the past and where I have, there was always enough help online to get past it (I'm no Linux guru, but am reasonably competent around computers).
Anyway, this is Neverwinter forum, so will drop the OS discussion. Thanks again for the info!
"The majority of our users are using a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit platform. A good chunk of the others are running a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit platform. We can just tell them to upgrade their OS.
Of those running a 32-bit OS on a 32-bit platform, most will probably upgrade soon anyhow, but some cannot afford to do do, but their Zen purchases are tiny anyhow, so our loss from having them leave will be insignificant.
The savings from not having to build and test a 32-bit version are considerable."
So, just a simple, cold business decision.
My husband Brian, is a firmware designer and makes all his software with backwards compatibility. Many companies come to him for this very reason, as these manufactures are not ready to spend millions on OS upgrades. When he writes his programs, he tells you, while they will run on the current OS, it will probably run on a microwave oven from 1978 with a Commodore 64 duct-taped to it.