Plasticbat consider yourself lucky that you've managed to get 3 toons with River Weapons... Still the amount of time that would have taken would have been considerable.
Surely *a lot* of people benefited early on with DIG rewards doing considerable farming before it was corrected...
Still I find a lot of people who claim they are lucky today if they get 1 Arcane Magical Writing maybe 2 spending between 30-45 minutes in the area each day unless their spending hours on just a single toon... So that clearly is no where close to the few who claim to get 5 within 30 minutes; sure if you convert ground jade at travelling merchant that will allow you to build up sizeable resources still even then if you get 2 or 3 chests from that donation only earns 2 or 3 writings. That's something you can only do every so many weeks so it's not a regular occurance.
The plain and simple fact is Since River District was released the most any of my toons has earned is barely 30 at this point without having purchased a few more at great expense.
The fact a single writing costs upwards of 10k is proof enough they drop rate is extremely poor!
Cryptic should increase drop rates for Arcane Writings plain and simple.
Well, basiaclly almost everyone here says that AMW drops well and you say it doesn't. It's just your problem so you're doing something wrong obviously. If you don't get any AMW (or one) in 35 minutes then you clearly are doing something wrong, because you should kill 200 enemies in this period of time and get 2x AMW in a worst case scenario. I got my AMW for GF in about 2 weeks, post dropfix in dig sites and before loadouts came. Do you know how hard it is to grind with pure tactician GF? Well, it's hell. Yet, I managed to get all the resources I needed in less than a month. The only blocker for me was Arcanic Focus. I was giving my spare AMW to a friend when I was grinding Arcanic Focus.
The price for AMW on AH is only 10k man. Have you ever done the SKT grind? Have you seen the prices there? It was 40k per 1 Dragon Turtle Moult and 25k per one Lanolin. And you needed alot of these. Not to mention profession resource for my weapon which costed 900k AD back then. So this profession resource only was costing same amount of AD that would cover you buying AMW.
Like I said, no problem with AMW. Please notice, that no one ever posted AMW related thread here and you are the first one posting it 3 months after RD weapons were released. No one ever complained about it, just about Arcanic Focus, which I mentioned before. It's purely your problem that you have to solve. You're just doing it wrong.
Oh, and btw. if you find it so painful - grind dungeons for AD and buy AMW. If you're a pally you should have no problem with invites to dungeon runs.
PS. People are grinding tones of AMW daily and selling them with profit. Think about it mate.
I've been running the dailies on 5 characters and I generally find one or two will be unlucky (zero), a couple will get 1 or 2 and often one character will get 3 or 4. Per day, I average at 3-6 from HE drops and about 2 from Secure The District. That's with 25 HE's per day so it's probably fair to say I experience a ~20% drop rate.
Three of my characters have the weapons restored so far.
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Well wizardlvl80 your 'no problem with Arcane Writings' still represents an extremely poor drop rate... the fact everyone considers it fair or acceptable is well rather sad. A few more earlier in this thread tended to agree a lot more with me...
The fact you can collect 130+ Ground Jade and barely get 20-25 Arcane Writing tells you they don't drop very often. I'm sure I'll eventually get their but honestly I'm probably more like many others who get tired of the grind of having to do 25 HE or 25 Dig sites every day to even have hopes of obtaining 2-5 writings...
Well I do agree with you it is easier to earn River Weapons than it is to earn SoMi weapons, but I'm also not asking for a massive increase to Arcane Writing. But it's rather SAD when I have enough of EVERYTHING to restore both mainhand and offhand with the EXCEPTION of 'Arcane Writings' for the Aboleth (weapon) and still only 1/4 of the way... despite having unlocked two of the three boons in the campaign along was many other campaign progression having been completed but still so very far away from restoring the weapons!
I know several players don't mind playing one character for 2.5 - 5hrs in River District to earn 3-5 writings per day on one toon, and some will then repeat this process on one or two others.
I've been running the dailies on 5 characters and I generally find one or two will be unlucky (zero), a couple will get 1 or 2 and often one character will get 3 or 4. Per day, I average at 3-6 from HE drops and about 2 from Secure The District. That's with 25 HE's per day so it's probably fair to say I experience a ~20% drop rate.
Three of my characters have the weapons restored so far.
I'd probably say this is a fairly accurate statement but I also don't have time to play 25 HE's / DIGS every day across 5 characters. That's a fairly large time commitment required over 2-3 months every day... Still the reason I say Arcane Writings drop rate could be slightly increased is because doing the daily's and weekly missions I have earned 2 of the 3 boons and unlocked several other campaign tasks including discounts on weapons; yet despite having enough of virtually everything else I'm still only 1/4 of the way toward's having enough writing.
But it seems clear I'm possibly either in the silent majority or vocal minority.
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It still seems like you're not making any kind of point of filling your campaign Security task to farm writings, and that's the big disconnect between you and everyone telling you that there's an easier way.
(And the things are 10k because not many people are farming them to sell, only to use. And people farming them to sell would just as soon not have competition.)
Plasticbat consider yourself lucky that you've managed to get 3 toons with River Weapons... Still the amount of time that would have taken would have been considerable.
Surely *a lot* of people benefited early on with DIG rewards doing considerable farming before it was corrected...
Still I find a lot of people who claim they are lucky today if they get 1 Arcane Magical Writing maybe 2 spending between 30-45 minutes in the area each day unless their spending hours on just a single toon... So that clearly is no where close to the few who claim to get 5 within 30 minutes; sure if you convert ground jade at travelling merchant that will allow you to build up sizeable resources still even then if you get 2 or 3 chests from that donation only earns 2 or 3 writings. That's something you can only do every so many weeks so it's not a regular occurance.
The plain and simple fact is Since River District was released the most any of my toons has earned is barely 30 at this point without having purchased a few more at great expense.
The fact a single writing costs upwards of 10k is proof enough they drop rate is extremely poor!
Cryptic should increase drop rates for Arcane Writings plain and simple.
As I said in the very beginning, I don't depend on luck. I don't depend on drop rate. I go for certainty. What I have done is to get AMW 100%. The RNG part is bonus with low contribution of total and low expectation from me. i.e. if I get one, good. If not, ok. What I have been doing is to kill. Yes, I can get 5 AMW in half a hour without any involvement of luck (assuming nobody else is competing with me for killing; more or less an empty instance) and that won't be in a relaxing manner and not picking up most loot. Yes, it is tiring.
No, I don't even use jade to do exchange. I don't need to. Killing gives me enough. I even consider donating is luck because not all the dig site I pass by accepts donation. Each donation only gives me 5 points. Doing killing is a lot faster than long travel to find an "empty" dig site.
The contribution of my AMW is NOT from dig site. I don't even remember I get even one AMW from dig site. The main contribution of my AMW is also not from HE.
And people who are posting 10k for a single AMW are the people farming AMW like me.
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I did 10 HE in 30 mins today, 9 small ones and 1 ship HE. I got 5xAMW from 9 small HE and 2x AMW from Ship. So basically I got 7 of them in 30 minutes.
Also @plasticbat showed you in a beautiful way that AMW can be grinded with 100% sure that you will get it. It's like I said - you're doing something wrong. Or you're just disappointed that you have to grind anything and you're not getting them via dailies. So let me tell you this - weapons are not something you should get, it's something you want to get. Dailies mean progress in campaign, and they should give you the boons. If you want to get weapons you have to grind them, sorry mate. If you don't feel like it, you can buy Masterwork Weapons or Elemental Weapons.
I make a killing farming AMW just as @plasticbat describes. And I also have relic, fey, and Mirage sets. Like I said AMW "drops like candy" but maybe should have said AMW can be farmed like water or dirt or grass?
Well clearly your guys experience is far different and clearly seems wrong because doing 10 HE's I think MOST PEOPLE don't come anywhere close to a drop rate of Arcane Magical Writings from HE's >50% or 7 writings from 10 HE's.
Yes I do Secure the District Challenge every time I'm able to as well to some who claim I'm doing something wrong... Keep in mind my 3 main toons have a gear score of 11300 - 11700 so I have no idea if having a higher gear score or sizeably increasing your damage for Heroic Encounters greatly increases the chance of a Writing Dropping. Although I do know others with gear scores of 12300 who don't earn a lot more Writings than I do.
While I have heard a few claim to obtain 2 Writings from the Ship that may also be influenced by the total damage you do in the HE's because my EXPERIENCE is far closer to 5-10% if from dig the many DIG SITES and treasures I recover every day not to mention the few HE's I run all over the map to do. I also don't believe I've ever obtain 2 writings from a Ship Encounter but I do know a friend who did one time.
Arcane Writing drop rate is extremely poor and I stand by that assessment!
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Lol I've wrangled with the OP before about other factual topics, and was not able to find much common ground.
It's OK, some folks just want the game to work exclusively for them in the way that they expect, all other players or balance be damned. They are not interested in hearing solutions, they want others to commiserate and participate in their tantrums. And that's fine, as long as you don't let it get to ya
I love the lack of maturity here by so many in the forums who when someone makes a point they disagree with rightly or wrongly that suddenly I'm throwing a tantrum because I'm presenting a fair and objective assessment.
PS: I also reported to Cryptic about the BUG in DIG sites that allowed many players to claim two rewards from a DIG; so clearly I'm also an HONEST player while many others simply took advantage of it... others were also not sure if this feature was intentional as it existed right from almost the beginning at least for the first 4 weeks. So clearly I'm also NOT as dupeks claims to be expecting the game to work the way I expect. Heck I didn't even complain about Arcane Focus despite it being a little slower to be earned despite many complaining about that but their complaints are valid and mine is not?
We currently still have MAGIC donations at RITUAL SITES that donate 30 magic to the site for every 10 magic that's actually donated allowing you to earn a chest with not a donation of 100 magic but only 40. Not to mention you then can earn 15 magic back from the chest meaning you only have to donate 25. It was NOT like this the first week as it used to require 100 magic but then changed the second week and has yet to be corrected.
Now since I was responding to one person who 'claimed' they get them by doing HE's which was wizardlvl80 as my post clearly denoted to everyone who read the one or two messages prior to my reply. As for the several others who claim they earn them by killing mobs that still advances Secure the District much more slowly than upgrading guard posts or ship donations although perhaps you do have to run around a lot less but you still having to do a lot of killing to earn 1.
Sure there are a lot who with argue with me because their either BIAS, or take their experience and assume it's the same for everyone. I have three characters with gear score of 11500 not 13500+ gear score. So I ask those have you tried running River with a Gear Score of 11500 and seeing if your experience is HONESTLY the same. What I report is HONEST feedback that's objective and fair.
You have 5-10 different materials that can drop alone which puts odds based on numbers far closer to 10% if you only require 1 of those items.
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There are a lot of mobs around that won't bump Security much or at all. You were told the best places to farm where everything in a small and fast respawning area counts.
I agree, farming for Arcane Magical writings across 5 characters grinding for their weapons has made me hit the wall so to speak. All I want is easier time getting 2 a day.
At the ship, i get arcanic writings 50% of the time: it is fair.
I call HAMSTER drops are way worse that 50%..besides that the mechanic of having players constantly beg for party invites in order to transfer to overcrowded zones is also HAMSTER.
Plasticbat consider yourself lucky that you've managed to get 3 toons with River Weapons... Still the amount of time that would have taken would have been considerable.
Surely *a lot* of people benefited early on with DIG rewards doing considerable farming before it was corrected...
Still I find a lot of people who claim they are lucky today if they get 1 Arcane Magical Writing maybe 2 spending between 30-45 minutes in the area each day unless their spending hours on just a single toon... So that clearly is no where close to the few who claim to get 5 within 30 minutes; sure if you convert ground jade at travelling merchant that will allow you to build up sizeable resources still even then if you get 2 or 3 chests from that donation only earns 2 or 3 writings. That's something you can only do every so many weeks so it's not a regular occurance.
The plain and simple fact is Since River District was released the most any of my toons has earned is barely 30 at this point without having purchased a few more at great expense.
The fact a single writing costs upwards of 10k is proof enough they drop rate is extremely poor!
Cryptic should increase drop rates for Arcane Writings plain and simple.
AGREE with your silly self-important gold colored thoughts. This grind is killing me.
> earned 21 Arcane Magical Writings at the same time. That means he requires still another 64 to go. *sigh*
You need a total of 105 AMW. 85 is the amount of Arcane Focus (that you also need).
It takes me about 1 hour to get 2 Arcane Magical Writings. I like to play 4 characters that are ready for the River District weapons. That's 420 AMW. So 220 hours of play just for the AMW! NO THANKS CRYPTIC. You are way over the top with the grind here. And if your intent was for us to spam beg for SHIP HEs until we have no dignity left no thank you either!
Plasticbat consider yourself lucky that you've managed to get 3 toons with River Weapons... Still the amount of time that would have taken would have been considerable.
Surely *a lot* of people benefited early on with DIG rewards doing considerable farming before it was corrected...
Still I find a lot of people who claim they are lucky today if they get 1 Arcane Magical Writing maybe 2 spending between 30-45 minutes in the area each day unless their spending hours on just a single toon... So that clearly is no where close to the few who claim to get 5 within 30 minutes; sure if you convert ground jade at travelling merchant that will allow you to build up sizeable resources still even then if you get 2 or 3 chests from that donation only earns 2 or 3 writings. That's something you can only do every so many weeks so it's not a regular occurance.
The plain and simple fact is Since River District was released the most any of my toons has earned is barely 30 at this point without having purchased a few more at great expense.
The fact a single writing costs upwards of 10k is proof enough they drop rate is extremely poor!
Cryptic should increase drop rates for Arcane Writings plain and simple.
AGREE with your silly self-important gold colored thoughts. This grind is killing me.
> earned 21 Arcane Magical Writings at the same time. That means he requires still another 64 to go. *sigh*
You need a total of 105 AMW. 85 is the amount of Arcane Focus (that you also need).
It takes me about 1 hour to get 2 Arcane Magical Writings. I like to play 4 characters that are ready for the River District weapons. That's 420 AMW. So 220 hours of play just for the AMW! NO THANKS CRYPTIC. You are way over the top with the grind here. And if your intent was for us to spam beg for SHIP HEs until we have no dignity left no thank you either!
Your experience is much closer to mine as many people I talk to say they are lucky if they earn 1 and if they get 2 after spending more than an hour is a bonus. It was often rumored much in the past people having though they could earn no more than 3 per day because the drop rate was so low.
Now surely a few have claimed that if you go focus on killing mobs in area's that respawn quickly it can advance secure the district faster but that's still a lot of killing unless the enemy are larger or associated with an HE. Because even one person who claimed killing mobs is the best way to advance secure the district even admitted that killing many mobs barely move it at all.
Sure killing Adventurers in specific areas may advance it slightly quicker but still they only spawn in 3-5 spots on a map. So while I do listen to the advice given to TRY to find a way to help earn me more I still generally find I'm spending most my time on my 3 main characters in River and still making very slow progress...
...despite having earned 2 of the 3 boons on those same characters and cleared the docks, restored commerce and several other tasks in the campaign and despite having enough of almost every other MAT I'm still only 1/4 of the way toward having the required Writings.
Plain and Simple.
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,461Arc User
Now since I was responding to one person who 'claimed' they get them by doing HE's which was wizardlvl80 as my post clearly denoted to everyone who read the one or two messages prior to my reply. As for the several others who claim they earn them by killing mobs that still advances Secure the District much more slowly than upgrading guard posts or ship donations although perhaps you do have to run around a lot less but you still having to do a lot of killing to earn 1.
I think you miss a big thing. Killing mob is way faster than upgrading guard post. For each guard post upgrade, you get 5 points. If you can upgrade it 3 times (as you are lucky), you get 15 points. For each one enemy you kill, you get 1 point. The mob I choose to kill has at least 5 enemies. Something I aggro 2 groups. It will be 10 points right there. Killing them all may be 15 seconds. My time spend is mostly on picking up loots. Do that 10 to 20 times give you 100 points. In addition, killing mob and upgrading guard post is not mutual exclusive. Do them all.
Not all the mob gives you secure the district point. You need to kill the "right" mob. Only those who does not have "duty" and just stand around will give you point. Find them, kill them, remember where they are, go back later, gives you AMW. If I intend to farm, I have my route and keep on moving because they will respawn in time when I finish my round. If you are slow to kill, you can have a shorter route and just keep running in that 'circle'. If you are fast, you just need to set a longer route.
Note: the mob rushing dig site does not give you point. the mob generated by HE does not give you point. Sometime, you see people was killing the mob which is not part of HE during HE. You may ask why they do that. The reason is those give them point.
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I do appreciate what your saying and I certainly will TRY killing more mobs still I acknowledge the fact I've done several HE's in the River District, even sometimes chosen the daily sub task from mercantile mission that requires you to kill 30 followers of Nostura, Gyrion or Kabal but still I'm often lucky if I progress Secure the District once every >45 minutes.
Some have denoted some mobs barely move the task at all, yet others have claimed some mobs can move it faster... I suspect they may be referring to enemy labelled Adventurers and I will certain try and see what my experience is there is as well.
Still I find it rather odd that my 3 most played characters... have practically all the required MATS required to restore both mainhand and offhand, yet barely have 1/4 of the Writings required for them despite having unlocked 2 of the 3 boons, cleared the docks, restored commerce, not to mention others including having purchased both unrestored weapons that takes time.
I know others sometimes farm on 3-5 characters each to earn writings over the course of a month till the most senior character is able to restore the weapons then they begin using all characters to farm Writings for the 2nd... And so on...
Perhaps if I pooled all my writings I'd be close to having enough to restore one Characters Weapons right now, but then my other 2 would still have none and then I'd still have to use all 3 to farm Writings, for another two or three months.
Some really dedicated people I know have earned 1 set every month using 3-5 characters to farm MATS and I admit their playtime is probably higher than mine... Still I thought I had spent considerable time in River District towards unlocking many campaign area's, purchasing the weapons, earning 2 of 3 boons, having cleared docks, restored commerce and many others... Yet still only 1/4 of the required Writings seems well... Broken. I realize that is my opinion only but there are others who agree.
When I was grinding them for four toons, I ended up buying maybe 30% of them from the AH to make the double-RP event. The AMW price in the AH fluctuates between high-7K to low-10K depending on the time of day. Check often and buy low. You don't want them to increase the drop rate because one day, you will have your set and will be farming AMW for AD.
Well I do agree in principle with what your saying... I still would rather see they increase the drop rate of Arcane Magical Writings slightly or at least in part increase Secure the District to award 2.
If I was purely looking to use River District to earn AD I'd honestly find it far faster to run Demonic HE encounters in Dread, Well of Dragons, or IWD to earn some +1 - +5 Rings or doing a few Skirmishes and Daily Dungeons for their unrefined AD not to mention the weekly campaign quests that give AD.
Still your statement is very fair assessment that many even after they have obtained their weapons and refinement limit for the day can sell the 1 or 2 Writing they make to earn another 7-10k each. But also realize you can also run IG Skirmish in 5-10 minutes and often sell many companion gear items for far more in less time if you don't mind doing the same thing over and over again.
Still I'm not asking for a huge increase but an increase it so they drop a little more often. That could possibly reduce their cost by 1-2k each but still I think it should be increased at the very least increase the reward from Secure the District.
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Some have denoted some mobs barely move the task at all, yet others have claimed some mobs can move it faster... I suspect they may be referring to enemy labelled Adventurers and I will certain try and see what my experience is there is as well.
As far as I know, Adventurers do not give you any secure the district point. They give you something else. I suggest you do some checking initially so that you remember which group gives you point and which group does not.
I also suggest you to equip one character first so that he (with a better weapon) can help you to farm faster.
One more thing, the mob that is harassing common (as it is a "duty") does not give you point.
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Well I certainly will try the mobs around the rectangular 'pool' but hopefully then consider increasing Arcane Writing drop changes a 'little bit' or at the very least increase Secure the District to rewarding 2 Arcane Magical Writings for completion.
I don't understand this discussion at all, i would totally get it if the title was "Arcanic focus"
I play on PS4, i main a Warlock and alt a DC. I finished weeks ago my aboleth set and almost all i need to restore my fey set.
Arcanics writings was never a problem at all to me... With my alt i just upgrade a camp when it needs to, i don't search for them, i find them while farming dig sites.
With my main, i only do one dig for quest then only ships and heroics if no one invit me. I usually get 4 to 6 writings in 30 min that i send to my second toon.
Really on ships and heroics they drop like candy.
The real pain in the hamster is the arcanic focus madness... 2 per day and doing dig sites 1 to 3 extra if you are lucky, this is extreme bs.... Yesterday i ran 18 holes and got 1...
It's ok for one character but runing throught this again for an alt is really pushing the grind too far.
Anyway, you can't send focus to your alts but you can send writings to your alts or buy them, they are cheap anyway.
So by the time you get your focus, you already will have loads of writings.
I'm very surprised so much people complain about writings but not the arcrapic focus.
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I don't understand this discussion at all, i would totally get it if the title was "Arcanic focus"
I play on PS4, i main a Warlock and alt a DC.
I finished weeks ago my aboleth set and almost all i need to restore my fey set.
Arcanics writings was never a problem at all to me...
With my alt i just upgrade a camp when it needs to, i don't search for them, i find them while farming dig sites.
With my main, i only do one dig for quest then only ships and heroics if no one invit me.
I usually get 4 to 6 writings in 30 min that i send to my second toon.
Really on ships and heroics they drop like candy.
The real pain in the hamster is the arcanic focus madness... 2 per day and doing dig sites 1 to 3 extra if you are lucky, this is extreme bs....
Yesterday i ran 18 holes and got 1...
It's ok for one character but runing throught this again for an alt is really pushing the grind too far.
Anyway, you can't send focus to your alts but you can send writings to your alts or buy them, they are cheap anyway.
So by the time you get your focus, you already will have loads of writings.
I'm very surprised so much people complain about writings but not the arcrapic focus.
You don't need to farm Focus or you should not force yourself to do so. That is wasting your play time. You will eventually get them all and more than you need. There is no RNG if you just do daily/weekly quest. However, you need to farm AMW one way or the other. Daily/weekly quest will not help you to get it without RNG.
In PC, last time I check, it is 8K AD for one writing.
If you play many toons like many of us do here, it is kind of painful to get AMW. Not painful to get focus at all. I have 5 toons that I want them to get new weapons. They needs 525 AMW. If every HE drops one AMW (and they don't), I need to do 525 HE. So far, I got enough for 3 toons. All 5 toons have more than enough focus than they need.
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Lolwut? I thought that maybe AMW droprate was nerfed or ninja nerfed so I checked it. I was doing solo small HE (on my HR) and during 30 minutes I got 5 of them. Ground jade is sweet thing since you can convert it into reclaimed resources at Traveling Merchant.
Seriously guys, try to actually play the game before you come here and moan. This kind of virtual problems are covering the serious issues and needs this game has now.
I haven't heard anyone complaining on AMW drop in my guild or alliance. Seriously, they are even pretty fun to get, since you can do the small HE solo or at a small party (I do them solo with my tactician GF, so please don't tell me it's hard). They also drop protector seals which you can convert into AD - this is a win-win situation for me actually. And if you don't feel like you can or want to do solo small HE, convert the ground jade and pump the ship. Many times I got 2x AMW from Ship HE. These things drop like crazy.
And there's no cap on the daily drop. When I was grinding weapons for my GF I got like 15 one day.
Yesterday:
250 HEs
8 AMW
Day before:
183 HEs
9 AMW
You got exceedingly lucky and your luck =/= a lack of an issue.
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That is why I go for certainty. You can be extreme lucky, extreme unlucky or somewhere in between. My way may be slower than lucky bunch but I know and I can estimate when I can get that done.
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You got exceedingly lucky and your luck =/= a lack of an issue.
Since you did so many HE, I assume and I hope you visited the seal dealer many times.
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I wouldn't mind if it were possible to trade some quantity of Focus for Writings, even if they wanted to make those BtC/BtA. I have massive excessive Focus on my DC, but I'll still have to buckle down and grind out the Writings. Not really a complaint... I know how to do it and simply have not finished yet. But since the game ultimately gives you campaign items you have no use for if you continue doing stuff in RD beyond finishing your boons and weapons, this would be one way of building in a useful sink.
I wouldn't mind if it were possible to trade some quantity of Focus for Writings, even if they wanted to make those BtC/BtA. I have massive excessive Focus on my DC, but I'll still have to buckle down and grind out the Writings. Not really a complaint... I know how to do it and simply have not finished yet. But since the game ultimately gives you campaign items you have no use for if you continue doing stuff in RD beyond finishing your boons and weapons, this would be one way of building in a useful sink.
I agree with that a lot. These days, getting a focus is like a curse laughing at me especially when getting one from dig site. "Just give me weapon/magic/riches. Not the damn focus".
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Well, basiaclly almost everyone here says that AMW drops well and you say it doesn't. It's just your problem so you're doing something wrong obviously. If you don't get any AMW (or one) in 35 minutes then you clearly are doing something wrong, because you should kill 200 enemies in this period of time and get 2x AMW in a worst case scenario. I got my AMW for GF in about 2 weeks, post dropfix in dig sites and before loadouts came. Do you know how hard it is to grind with pure tactician GF? Well, it's hell. Yet, I managed to get all the resources I needed in less than a month. The only blocker for me was Arcanic Focus. I was giving my spare AMW to a friend when I was grinding Arcanic Focus.
The price for AMW on AH is only 10k man. Have you ever done the SKT grind? Have you seen the prices there? It was 40k per 1 Dragon Turtle Moult and 25k per one Lanolin. And you needed alot of these. Not to mention profession resource for my weapon which costed 900k AD back then. So this profession resource only was costing same amount of AD that would cover you buying AMW.
Like I said, no problem with AMW. Please notice, that no one ever posted AMW related thread here and you are the first one posting it 3 months after RD weapons were released. No one ever complained about it, just about Arcanic Focus, which I mentioned before. It's purely your problem that you have to solve. You're just doing it wrong.
Oh, and btw. if you find it so painful - grind dungeons for AD and buy AMW. If you're a pally you should have no problem with invites to dungeon runs.
PS. People are grinding tones of AMW daily and selling them with profit. Think about it mate.
Three of my characters have the weapons restored so far.
Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
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The fact you can collect 130+ Ground Jade and barely get 20-25 Arcane Writing tells you they don't drop very often. I'm sure I'll eventually get their but honestly I'm probably more like many others who get tired of the grind of having to do 25 HE or 25 Dig sites every day to even have hopes of obtaining 2-5 writings...
Well I do agree with you it is easier to earn River Weapons than it is to earn SoMi weapons, but I'm also not asking for a massive increase to Arcane Writing. But it's rather SAD when I have enough of EVERYTHING to restore both mainhand and offhand with the EXCEPTION of 'Arcane Writings' for the Aboleth (weapon) and still only 1/4 of the way... despite having unlocked two of the three boons in the campaign along was many other campaign progression having been completed but still so very far away from restoring the weapons!
I know several players don't mind playing one character for 2.5 - 5hrs in River District to earn 3-5 writings per day on one toon, and some will then repeat this process on one or two others. I'd probably say this is a fairly accurate statement but I also don't have time to play 25 HE's / DIGS every day across 5 characters. That's a fairly large time commitment required over 2-3 months every day... Still the reason I say Arcane Writings drop rate could be slightly increased is because doing the daily's and weekly missions I have earned 2 of the 3 boons and unlocked several other campaign tasks including discounts on weapons; yet despite having enough of virtually everything else I'm still only 1/4 of the way toward's having enough writing.
But it seems clear I'm possibly either in the silent majority or vocal minority.
(And the things are 10k because not many people are farming them to sell, only to use. And people farming them to sell would just as soon not have competition.)
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No, I don't even use jade to do exchange. I don't need to. Killing gives me enough. I even consider donating is luck because not all the dig site I pass by accepts donation. Each donation only gives me 5 points. Doing killing is a lot faster than long travel to find an "empty" dig site.
The contribution of my AMW is NOT from dig site. I don't even remember I get even one AMW from dig site.
The main contribution of my AMW is also not from HE.
And people who are posting 10k for a single AMW are the people farming AMW like me.
I did 10 HE in 30 mins today, 9 small ones and 1 ship HE. I got 5xAMW from 9 small HE and 2x AMW from Ship. So basically I got 7 of them in 30 minutes.
Also @plasticbat showed you in a beautiful way that AMW can be grinded with 100% sure that you will get it. It's like I said - you're doing something wrong. Or you're just disappointed that you have to grind anything and you're not getting them via dailies. So let me tell you this - weapons are not something you should get, it's something you want to get. Dailies mean progress in campaign, and they should give you the boons. If you want to get weapons you have to grind them, sorry mate. If you don't feel like it, you can buy Masterwork Weapons or Elemental Weapons.
Yes I do Secure the District Challenge every time I'm able to as well to some who claim I'm doing something wrong... Keep in mind my 3 main toons have a gear score of 11300 - 11700 so I have no idea if having a higher gear score or sizeably increasing your damage for Heroic Encounters greatly increases the chance of a Writing Dropping. Although I do know others with gear scores of 12300 who don't earn a lot more Writings than I do.
While I have heard a few claim to obtain 2 Writings from the Ship that may also be influenced by the total damage you do in the HE's because my EXPERIENCE is far closer to 5-10% if from dig the many DIG SITES and treasures I recover every day not to mention the few HE's I run all over the map to do. I also don't believe I've ever obtain 2 writings from a Ship Encounter but I do know a friend who did one time.
Arcane Writing drop rate is extremely poor and I stand by that assessment!
They told you exactly how they farm them.
What the frack else do you want?
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It's OK, some folks just want the game to work exclusively for them in the way that they expect, all other players or balance be damned. They are not interested in hearing solutions, they want others to commiserate and participate in their tantrums. And that's fine, as long as you don't let it get to ya
PS: I also reported to Cryptic about the BUG in DIG sites that allowed many players to claim two rewards from a DIG; so clearly I'm also an HONEST player while many others simply took advantage of it... others were also not sure if this feature was intentional as it existed right from almost the beginning at least for the first 4 weeks. So clearly I'm also NOT as dupeks claims to be expecting the game to work the way I expect. Heck I didn't even complain about Arcane Focus despite it being a little slower to be earned despite many complaining about that but their complaints are valid and mine is not?
We currently still have MAGIC donations at RITUAL SITES that donate 30 magic to the site for every 10 magic that's actually donated allowing you to earn a chest with not a donation of 100 magic but only 40. Not to mention you then can earn 15 magic back from the chest meaning you only have to donate 25. It was NOT like this the first week as it used to require 100 magic but then changed the second week and has yet to be corrected.
Now since I was responding to one person who 'claimed' they get them by doing HE's which was wizardlvl80 as my post clearly denoted to everyone who read the one or two messages prior to my reply. As for the several others who claim they earn them by killing mobs that still advances Secure the District much more slowly than upgrading guard posts or ship donations although perhaps you do have to run around a lot less but you still having to do a lot of killing to earn 1.
Sure there are a lot who with argue with me because their either BIAS, or take their experience and assume it's the same for everyone. I have three characters with gear score of 11500 not 13500+ gear score. So I ask those have you tried running River with a Gear Score of 11500 and seeing if your experience is HONESTLY the same. What I report is HONEST feedback that's objective and fair.
You have 5-10 different materials that can drop alone which puts odds based on numbers far closer to 10% if you only require 1 of those items.
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All I want is easier time getting 2 a day. I call HAMSTER drops are way worse that 50%..besides that the mechanic of having players constantly beg for party invites in order to transfer to overcrowded zones is also HAMSTER.
That's 420 AMW. So 220 hours of play just for the AMW! NO THANKS CRYPTIC. You are way over the top with the grind here.
And if your intent was for us to spam beg for SHIP HEs until we have no dignity left no thank you either!
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Now surely a few have claimed that if you go focus on killing mobs in area's that respawn quickly it can advance secure the district faster but that's still a lot of killing unless the enemy are larger or associated with an HE. Because even one person who claimed killing mobs is the best way to advance secure the district even admitted that killing many mobs barely move it at all.
Sure killing Adventurers in specific areas may advance it slightly quicker but still they only spawn in 3-5 spots on a map. So while I do listen to the advice given to TRY to find a way to help earn me more I still generally find I'm spending most my time on my 3 main characters in River and still making very slow progress...
...despite having earned 2 of the 3 boons on those same characters and cleared the docks, restored commerce and several other tasks in the campaign and despite having enough of almost every other MAT I'm still only 1/4 of the way toward having the required Writings.
Plain and Simple.
Do that 10 to 20 times give you 100 points.
In addition, killing mob and upgrading guard post is not mutual exclusive. Do them all.
Not all the mob gives you secure the district point. You need to kill the "right" mob. Only those who does not have "duty" and just stand around will give you point. Find them, kill them, remember where they are, go back later, gives you AMW.
If I intend to farm, I have my route and keep on moving because they will respawn in time when I finish my round.
If you are slow to kill, you can have a shorter route and just keep running in that 'circle'.
If you are fast, you just need to set a longer route.
Note: the mob rushing dig site does not give you point. the mob generated by HE does not give you point. Sometime, you see people was killing the mob which is not part of HE during HE. You may ask why they do that. The reason is those give them point.
Some have denoted some mobs barely move the task at all, yet others have claimed some mobs can move it faster... I suspect they may be referring to enemy labelled Adventurers and I will certain try and see what my experience is there is as well.
Still I find it rather odd that my 3 most played characters... have practically all the required MATS required to restore both mainhand and offhand, yet barely have 1/4 of the Writings required for them despite having unlocked 2 of the 3 boons, cleared the docks, restored commerce, not to mention others including having purchased both unrestored weapons that takes time.
I know others sometimes farm on 3-5 characters each to earn writings over the course of a month till the most senior character is able to restore the weapons then they begin using all characters to farm Writings for the 2nd... And so on...
Perhaps if I pooled all my writings I'd be close to having enough to restore one Characters Weapons right now, but then my other 2 would still have none and then I'd still have to use all 3 to farm Writings, for another two or three months.
Some really dedicated people I know have earned 1 set every month using 3-5 characters to farm MATS and I admit their playtime is probably higher than mine... Still I thought I had spent considerable time in River District towards unlocking many campaign area's, purchasing the weapons, earning 2 of 3 boons, having cleared docks, restored commerce and many others... Yet still only 1/4 of the required Writings seems well... Broken. I realize that is my opinion only but there are others who agree.
If I was purely looking to use River District to earn AD I'd honestly find it far faster to run Demonic HE encounters in Dread, Well of Dragons, or IWD to earn some +1 - +5 Rings or doing a few Skirmishes and Daily Dungeons for their unrefined AD not to mention the weekly campaign quests that give AD.
Still your statement is very fair assessment that many even after they have obtained their weapons and refinement limit for the day can sell the 1 or 2 Writing they make to earn another 7-10k each. But also realize you can also run IG Skirmish in 5-10 minutes and often sell many companion gear items for far more in less time if you don't mind doing the same thing over and over again.
Still I'm not asking for a huge increase but an increase it so they drop a little more often. That could possibly reduce their cost by 1-2k each but still I think it should be increased at the very least increase the reward from Secure the District.
I suggest you do some checking initially so that you remember which group gives you point and which group does not.
I also suggest you to equip one character first so that he (with a better weapon) can help you to farm faster.
One more thing, the mob that is harassing common (as it is a "duty") does not give you point.
I play on PS4, i main a Warlock and alt a DC.
I finished weeks ago my aboleth set and almost all i need to restore my fey set.
Arcanics writings was never a problem at all to me...
With my alt i just upgrade a camp when it needs to, i don't search for them, i find them while farming dig sites.
With my main, i only do one dig for quest then only ships and heroics if no one invit me.
I usually get 4 to 6 writings in 30 min that i send to my second toon.
Really on ships and heroics they drop like candy.
The real pain in the hamster is the arcanic focus madness... 2 per day and doing dig sites 1 to 3 extra if you are lucky, this is extreme bs....
Yesterday i ran 18 holes and got 1...
It's ok for one character but runing throught this again for an alt is really pushing the grind too far.
Anyway, you can't send focus to your alts but you can send writings to your alts or buy them, they are cheap anyway.
So by the time you get your focus, you already will have loads of writings.
I'm very surprised so much people complain about writings but not the arcrapic focus.
You will eventually get them all and more than you need. There is no RNG if you just do daily/weekly quest.
However, you need to farm AMW one way or the other. Daily/weekly quest will not help you to get it without RNG.
In PC, last time I check, it is 8K AD for one writing.
If you play many toons like many of us do here, it is kind of painful to get AMW. Not painful to get focus at all.
I have 5 toons that I want them to get new weapons. They needs 525 AMW. If every HE drops one AMW (and
they don't), I need to do 525 HE.
So far, I got enough for 3 toons. All 5 toons have more than enough focus than they need.
Yesterday:
250 HEs
8 AMW
Day before:
183 HEs
9 AMW
You got exceedingly lucky and your luck =/= a lack of an issue.
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