Alot of GF's don't even run kv. Most that I know hate running it. So nerf it or get rid of it completely wouldn't bother any of the GF'S I know. They probably won't die as much so all good :-)
> @defiantone99 said: > If you think a GF does not make the team just as immortal as perma-bubble, you are playing with bad GFs.
^^ This guy knows. Yes your not immortal against the hardest dungeon boss in the game, but then again. Thats the hardest dungeon boss in the game. When I run my GF with KV in chats I refer to it as a bubble, I let people know when Im stunned watch out the bubble is down.
The only thing I miss about the bubble is fighting blue dragon. My guild is just a mid level guild, with most 70's in the 2500 range. With blues AOE one shot it makes taking on all 4 very difficult. Without being able to take on all 4 we retain only the most loyal members. Loosing valuable/capable players then makes it doulely difficult to organize 4 dragon raids. Since the bubble got* nerfed we went from running dragons for hours a day to once a week.
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Alot of GF's don't even run kv. Most that I know hate running it. So nerf it or get rid of it completely wouldn't bother any of the GF'S I know. They probably won't die as much so all good :-)
Any decent GF will run KV I run it all the time with mine, the only time I switch it off is if the team has members who are way under geared and even at my level (just short of 3.6) I get dropped or close to.
I build plenty of aggro as is. You just need to know how. The bubble should be 10 seconds, definitely not 6 or 20 or gone completely. Thats insanity thats what makes the Protector Pally the Protector Pally. And like other people have said people dont even want bubble pally now for highers dungeons which isnt cool. Now everyone wants gfs, dcs, or a healadin. Bring back the bubble!
I play PC version. 10s would be perma again for a lot of high IL pallies (except when stunned). Im 3.3k IL and invest to power and recovery. I have 20t recovery in battle (128% increased charge time and near 90% action point gain) and can do perma bubble when hit group of mobs (not boss alone). With use DC sigil (only epic now) I can maintain 3 bubbles at row, when needed. And I still feed recovery in my build. Game is for me much more interesting, with bubble for emergency use only.
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No point for the bubble in the first place, everything is do-able without it and serve the closest thing for a challenge they're going to get. All they need is an aggro buff.
A lightning enchantment will give them ALL the aggro they can handle... Once that lightning starts to chain all enemies HATE you lol
I was pissed about the bubble nerf when it happened on PC but my build carried through without a problem. I can still run ALMOST perma bubble using sprite companions and other AP gain.
I've now respec'd to a Healadin and she's so fun to play!
I have an OP and a GF, and let me tell you that it isn't that people don't know how to dodge, ever since the nerf I've run the same amount of dungeons with each of my tanks and only once I was with clueless ppl for sure, the thing is that for reasons unknown to me everyone plays differently depending on their tank.
When people see a Pally, they go "special" and #yolo all the run, the GWFs try to run ahead of you, and only a few care for red zones. Oh! But when you have a Guardian Fighter, all of a sudden everyone knows how to play properly
My personal opinion is that the bubble made players lazy and forget how to actual play PvE content and shouldn't have been allowed in PvP to begin with.
Real question is: How many of you people hating on the bubble were glad to see one in your group when you ran ECC? If any of you claim you never ran ECC/ETOS with a bubble then you are lying.
Real question is: How many of you people hating on the bubble were glad to see one in your group when you ran ECC? If any of you claim you never ran ECC/ETOS with a bubble then you are lying.
Actually I have run both without one but not until group content was north of 3.6 IL I have a 3600 Pally and most every run I was asked to participate in that Character was requested by the group on almost every occasion. So you are not wrong in General but there are those who have run without successfully
Im not saying it can't or has not been done. I am saying that at the time when everyone was spamming for a bubble for ECC, I am sure half the people in this thread were part of those groups.
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> If you think a GF does not make the team just as immortal as perma-bubble, you are playing with bad GFs.
^^ This guy knows. Yes your not immortal against the hardest dungeon boss in the game, but then again. Thats the hardest dungeon boss in the game. When I run my GF with KV in chats I refer to it as a bubble, I let people know when Im stunned watch out the bubble is down.
The only thing I miss about the bubble is fighting blue dragon. My guild is just a mid level guild, with most 70's in the 2500 range. With blues AOE one shot it makes taking on all 4 very difficult. Without being able to take on all 4 we retain only the most loyal members. Loosing valuable/capable players then makes it doulely difficult to organize 4 dragon raids. Since the bubble got* nerfed we went from running dragons for hours a day to once a week.
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I play PC version. 10s would be perma again for a lot of high IL pallies (except when stunned). Im 3.3k IL and invest to power and recovery. I have 20t recovery in battle (128% increased charge time and near 90% action point gain) and can do perma bubble when hit group of mobs (not boss alone). With use DC sigil (only epic now) I can maintain 3 bubbles at row, when needed. And I still feed recovery in my build. Game is for me much more interesting, with bubble for emergency use only.
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OP 18k+ Devotion/Justice - Light
I was pissed about the bubble nerf when it happened on PC but my build carried through without a problem. I can still run ALMOST perma bubble using sprite companions and other AP gain.
I've now respec'd to a Healadin and she's so fun to play!
When people see a Pally, they go "special" and #yolo all the run, the GWFs try to run ahead of you, and only a few care for red zones. Oh! But when you have a Guardian Fighter, all of a sudden everyone knows how to play properly