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Double Refinement Weekend

dangerzone91dangerzone91 Member Posts: 31 Arc User
edited September 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
Hi ,

So, artifacts also give double points?
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    zshikarazshikara Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    During a double RP event I would imagine that ANYTHING that gives RP will give double what it normally gives. I have not been through a double RP event before so we'll see when it happens, but I'm just thinking logically here.
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    sauloandreysauloandrey Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 9
    edited August 2014
    also like to know xD
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    refracted0dawnrefracted0dawn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 894 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I heard about this in-game a few times.

    Is it reality or a myth?

    When is the Double Refinement weekend supposed to be happening?
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    lazaroth666lazaroth666 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited August 2014
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    refracted0dawnrefracted0dawn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 894 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Excellent, cheers.
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    midnightfang93midnightfang93 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Stockpile up on those lvl 59 raven artifacts to level up everything else.
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    myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Stockpile up on those lvl 59 raven artifacts to level up everything else.

    I don't even know what those "raven" artifacts are . . . :(
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    frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    myowmyow wrote: »
    I don't even know what those "raven" artifacts are . . . :(

    Pvp artifact of power for 24k glory.

    We still need to finish the contest for the event to happen but it's likely.
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    midnightfang93midnightfang93 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    myowmyow wrote: »
    I don't even know what those "raven" artifacts are . . . :(

    The one you buy for 24k glory. They are excellent for leveling up your power artifacts since you get already get almost double the rewards from them without the event due to how artifacts work when refining with other artifacts.

    Edit: You can get the 40k artifacts from IWD too for the other artifact types and are essentially "free" if you pvp a lot.
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    mycillemycille Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 42
    edited August 2014
    how much rafinement point give these raven artifacts at lvl 59?
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    lazaroth666lazaroth666 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    mycille wrote: »
    how much rafinement point give these raven artifacts at lvl 59?

    619,600 RP points if used in another Power artifact. However, it is better as lv 54 instead of lv 59 IMO.
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    angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    LOL That free Ruby they gave away a little while back is gonna come in handy on THAT week. Wowzers.
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    refracted0dawnrefracted0dawn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 894 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    619,600 RP points if used in another Power artifact. However, it is better as lv 54 instead of lv 59 IMO.

    Yes, but the Raven is only Rank 1 when you get it. It only gives a few thousand RP, as I used it with one of my characters. It is BoP to Character, so you cannot send it from 10 Alts to your Main, and you can only stack 50,000 Glory, so you'd have to buy them with the character you want to use them on.

    If you have already upgraded the Raven skull, it is useful to use for another artifact of Power though. I used the one my Main Battle Celric had to upgrade the Dragonborn one. I wish I had saved it for the DRP weekend, now.

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    adinosiiadinosii Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,294 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    If you have already upgraded the Raven skull, it is useful to use for another artifact of Power though. I used the one my Main Battle Celric had to upgrade the Dragonborn one. I wish I had saved it for the DRP weekend, now.
    :(

    Yea. I had upgraded my Raven Skull to level 72, and then I got that nice artifact included in the Dragonborn pack....it is really tempting to upgrade that - maybe not cost-effective, but if I have a lvl 72 artifact lying around, why not use it....

    Then there is the question of what to do with those spare Eyes of Lathander artifacts I have lying around - upgrade them to 59 and use them to upgrade one of my other artifacts?
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    kattefjaeskattefjaes Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,270 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    frishter wrote: »
    Pvp artifact of power for 24k glory.

    Oh good grief, I wince at the sight of those now. I farmed so many to raise a Vanguard artifact to orange.. gnnh.
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    myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I have no glory. I have never done GG - too time consuming for my limited play time. :)
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    adinosiiadinosii Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,294 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    myowmyow wrote: »
    I have no glory. I have never done GG - too time consuming for my limited play time. :)

    Well, you can do domination matches every now and then instead. Personally I hate PvP - the worst aspect of the game IMO, but I spent 4 days doing pretty much nothing else, just to make enough Glory to get that artifact. However, if your daily play time is limited, you can spread it out over a much longer period.
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    mlmleaddeathmlmleaddeath Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I wonder if it will work for Wonders of Gond refinement items. Making Doohickeys would be a lot easier.
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    frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I wonder if it will work for Wonders of Gond refinement items. Making Doohickeys would be a lot easier.

    Probably though they changed it so that you need 1 of the same ranked grommet/whatever as a reagent now which sucks.
    adinosii wrote: »
    Well, you can do domination matches every now and then instead. Personally I hate PvP - the worst aspect of the game IMO, but I spent 4 days doing pretty much nothing else, just to make enough Glory to get that artifact. However, if your daily play time is limited, you can spread it out over a much longer period.

    I dislike it too. Too many imbalances. I've done it to farm pvp stuff though, plus trying to get 9 artifacts for double rp weekend. 3 down, 6 to go.
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    mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I wonder if it will work for Wonders of Gond refinement items. Making Doohickeys would be a lot easier.
    frishter wrote: »
    Probably though they changed it so that you need 1 of the same ranked grommet/whatever as a reagent now which sucks.

    Yes this was possibly the reason for the stealth change.

    Sadly it seems you waste far too many RP points now leveling up from Rank 1->2->3 so you can't just use Blueprints. Overall even with Double RP bonus making Doohickeys is still going to be far more expensive than it was during the event.
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    beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    mconosrep wrote: »
    Yes this was possibly the reason for the stealth change.

    Sadly it seems you waste far too many RP points now leveling up from Rank 1->2->3 so you can't just use Blueprints. Overall even with Double RP bonus making Doohickeys is still going to be far more expensive than it was during the event.

    Oh my god, what? I had one sprocket left and a stack of blueprints I bought, sufficient to make one more doohickey, but I was waiting til I looted enough ore for reagents and I've been too busy to spend any game time node farming in Blacklake.

    This was all meant to be for personal use, not selling, and I don't have enough to make all those intermediate stage things. *Cries.*
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    sexwax45sexwax45 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I been saving for about a week waiting for this event, can't wait.
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    healaryhealary Member Posts: 600 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    The one you buy for 24k glory. They are excellent for leveling up your power artifacts since you get already get almost double the rewards from them without the event due to how artifacts work when refining with other artifacts.

    Edit: You can get the 40k artifacts from IWD too for the other artifact types and are essentially "free" if you pvp a lot.

    I don't see how are the pvp artifacts "free". First, you need to get 24k and 40k glory to buy them but glory can be used to buy other stuff that you can use, salvage for rough AD or sell for AD.

    Then the artifacts come at rank 1. When you get them to rank 59, you can get like 600k+ rp from each of them if used on the same type of artifact. However, it also takes almost 300k rp to upgrade a rank 1 artifact to rank 59, which translates to over 2 AD per rp, in line with the enchantment process by way of pearls, peridots, etc.

    It is not free and any cheaper than normal enchantment.
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    midnightfang93midnightfang93 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    healary wrote: »
    I don't see how are the pvp artifacts "free". First, you need to get 24k and 40k glory to buy them but glory can be used to buy other stuff that you can use, salvage for rough AD or sell for AD.

    Then the artifacts come at rank 1. When you get them to rank 59, you can get like 600k+ rp from each of them if used on the same type of artifact. However, it also takes almost 300k rp to upgrade a rank 1 artifact to rank 59, which translates to over 2 AD per rp, in line with the enchantment process by way of pearls, peridots, etc.

    It is not free and any cheaper than normal enchantment.

    Well I've personally never bought enchants to refine my artifacts (just used the stuff that dropped...IWD drops them like candy) and I reach the refining limit daily if I try to without the pvp equipment, so its free for me :/.
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    healaryhealary Member Posts: 600 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Well I've personally never bought enchants to refine my artifacts (just used the stuff that dropped...IWD drops them like candy) and I reach the refining limit daily if I try to without the pvp equipment, so its free for me :/.

    It won't matter if you think getting all your refinement stones and enchantments from drop is free since if you use the same free stuff from mob or chest drops to enchant an artifact instead of using the drops to enchant a pvp artifact then use that artifact to enchant your targeted artifact, you get about the same bang of the buck effect.
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    jonkocajonkoca Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,586 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    sexwax45 wrote: »
    I been saving for about a week waiting for this event, can't wait.

    Me too. I've got 2 ravens, and one spare banner in the bank, plus a whole bunch of marks and fey blessings. With a bit of luck, all my artifacts will be orange. ;)
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    frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    healary wrote: »
    However, it also takes almost 300k rp to upgrade a rank 1 artifact to rank 59, which translates to over 2 AD per rp, in line with the enchantment process by way of pearls, peridots, etc.

    It is not free and any cheaper than normal enchantment.

    What do you mean 2 AD per rp? The only AD you pay is if you buy the enchants and then you double the rp. If you buy enchants for 1 rp/ad, using an artifact of the same type will up that to 2rp/ad (or 0.5ad/rp), if you pay 2 rp/ad, it effectively translates to 4rp/ad. With the upcoming double rp you should get 4rp/ad instead of 1rp/ad. Of course time is still needed to get the artifacts. If you have a low gs or suck, then it might be more painful. Though farming gg can still net results.
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    healaryhealary Member Posts: 600 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    frishter wrote: »
    What do you mean 2 AD per rp? The only AD you pay is if you buy the enchants and then you double the rp. If you buy enchants for 1 rp/ad, using an artifact of the same type will up that to 2rp/ad (or 0.5ad/rp), if you pay 2 rp/ad, it effectively translates to 4rp/ad. With the upcoming double rp you should get 4rp/ad instead of 1rp/ad. Of course time is still needed to get the artifacts. If you have a low gs or suck, then it might be more painful. Though farming gg can still net results.

    If everybody can buy enchantments for 1 rp per ad don't you think they will just do that instead of buying pearls or peridots for 1 rp per 2+ ad? There are just not many 1 rp per ad enchantments put up for sale. Check the AH and see are there 30k rank 1 or 10k enchantments up there? Even if so, they are only enough for one person to upgrade a rank 1 artifact to rank 59.
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    frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    healary wrote: »
    If everybody can buy enchantments for 1 rp per ad don't you think they will just do that instead of buying pearls or peridots for 1 rp per 2+ ad? There are just not many 1 rp per ad enchantments put up for sale. Check the AH and see are there 30k rank 1 or 10k enchantments up there? Even if so, they are only enough for one person to upgrade a rank 1 artifact to rank 59.

    I got 3-4 million rp for less than 1ad/rp (well tbh some of it was a little over, but most was under) and plan to quadruple a lot of that for one of my toons to get 3 legendaries using bloodcrytals. The thing is whatever you use, whether it be enchantments or peridots you double that rate using artifacts of the same type at 59

    If you use 587 peridots needed to reach l59, you'll get the equivalent of 1239 peridots in rp. It's always going to be cheaper if you have the glory on you for the artifact since you're getting bonus rp. You can't lose ad or match it unless you use a high end purple one for rp, you're increasing your investment no matter what and the rate at 59 is twice as efficient as what you put in. The factors that reduce the efficiency is reagent cost which is minor below level 59 and the time to get the glory.
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    healaryhealary Member Posts: 600 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    frishter wrote: »
    I got 3-4 million rp for less than 1ad/rp (well tbh some of it was a little over, but most was under) and plan to quadruple a lot of that for one of my toons to get 3 legendaries using bloodcrytals. The thing is whatever you use, whether it be enchantments or peridots you double that rate using artifacts of the same type at 59

    If you use 587 peridots needed to reach l59, you'll get the equivalent of 1239 peridots in rp. It's always going to be cheaper if you have the glory on you for the artifact since you're getting bonus rp. You can't lose ad or match it unless you use a high end purple one for rp, you're increasing your investment no matter what and the rate at 59 is twice as efficient as what you put in. The factors that reduce the efficiency is reagent cost which is minor below level 59 and the time to get the glory.

    I don't question the double refinement event. Double is always better than single. I am happy with that.

    If you either have the luck to get all those people selling enchantments to you for 1 ad per or the time to sit at AH for who knows how long to get 3-4 million rp worth of enchants, good for you but I don't think most players have that cheap offers or the patience to stare at the AH like a job especially in a action based game.
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