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"Tarmalune Tradebar Merchant: Coalescent and Preservation wards sold by the Trade Bar merchant are now Bind on Account. This change is not retroactive. Existing wards will retain their current bind status."
WHY???
WHY???
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Ya.. sadness and tears to follow. Pricing will spike in the short term and will settle at a much higher rate on everything in the long run.
Not good for the game and not good for balance either.
they could at least lower the zen price of it
edit: while coal ward prices will rise of course, because of that patch enchantment prices will skyrocket as well so be prepared for lesser enchantments prices above 500k, good work really good work
Never. They'll just let the AH drive the Coal price towards equilibrium with the Zen Store price and then light a cigar.
New players stand no chance now unless they or their parents are rich. I remember buying Coal Wards for 120k in February. Cheapest one I saw before the server went down was 330k.
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There are already lockboxes with a (very low) chance to drop a coal from the enchantment pack in them.
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However, people who open 1000s of lockboxes will still get coals which will be of much higher value even though they can't be sold directly.
So who do you think will dominate the enchant market after this...
I also dunno why people spend many hundreds to thousands on a game that feels so unrewarding money wise. I'd only consider spending that much if I felt like I got my monies worth which this game is far from providing. Instead it feels like they care more about filling their own pockets (probably doing it inefficiently) than providing a well made product where the customers that support them feel valued.
If they continue to be not bound - then does this really change anything ? I mean other than some high enchantements/ artifact having a 20 or 15% success rate. Perhaps a slight buff to drop rates from the 7 day prayer box to compensate ?
You are right that it means people are PROBABLY less likely to buy keys to open lockboxes to gain trade bars to get wards. But on the other hand it will probably only change a small percentage of what is going on in the action house right now.
Please remember that the action house is running at extremely inflated prices. If anything it seems to me this goes against a cash grab. I think this will lower the amount of zen people will want for awhile. maybe when the auction house calms down again they will change the decision.
I point to the pricing of the white pearl in the icewind dale shop at 600 ad as a move to cap auction house prices rather than to be a serious source of people to purchase them for use. 600 ad is just too much considering how easy they are to get from other sources.
Why not put all gear in the shop? Im sure some poeple would just buy that as well.
I can see coal wards as a Zen Sink, like Greater mark of potency are AD sinks. Next days, higher enchants will rise in prize, but if people dont buy enough enchants, prizes will go down, and who will adjust the prizes?
For each high level enchant you need:
Shards (already at low prizes)
Coal wards
Greater mark of potency
Peridots (and others but mostly peridots)
Who will lower the prizes if people dont buy perfects at 10M? Yes Peridots will go down. Bots will earn less money. I see this move in this direction, like the new refinement system. Months ago, bots were selling 99 stacks for 1M, now they are 150k-250k because of the new refinement system and greater marks that bots cant farm. Bots cant farm coal wards also.
If cryptic recover the control of the prizes, they can do what they want with coal wards or greater marks drop more, or give with promotions or what they want.
At last is my view of this.
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Prayer Coals were not bound, there were accounts active then that are no longer active.
It reinforces that additional character slots for 250k are more viable than a second account.
It reinforces that dungeon content can now have a say in the coal market using shards to regulate prices.
It does make a botters life easier and it does inflate the value of refinement points.
I agree that it's not a first-timer friendly game anymore, and the onus is on the community to coach the new players effectively, and ultimately form cohesive guilds with in-house progression moreso than RNG winners. - More Co-Op.
I doubt the brand salivated at the change within the game.
Put BOP Coal Wards in T2 dungeon's chest loot table. I've run TOS 15-times and have received 15 belts I don't need/want. I'd gladly take a Coal Ward on at least one of those occasions.
If BoA Coal from 7/7 Invoke seems to be on 0.01% already, the T2 Coals would be 0.0001% (because you can run more dungeons than invokes - at least as long as you follow the ToS and don't have more than 2 Accounts).
All anyone needs to do is to look at the Zen Exchanges and multiply the current best rate by 1000 to determine the Astral Diamond cost of the the blue ward. Hence, at 500/1 exchange rate the Blue Coalescent Ward will cost 500,000 AD. if it sells for this in the AH then buy it.
However, when the exchange rate drops to 400/1 then that is too high a price, because it will cost 400,000 AD. This makes the 500,000 AD Auction House version too expensive. So you convert AD, then buy the Coalescent Ward from Zen Market (which is always UNBOUND), then sell it at AH for 500,000 because too many people aren't even thinking about converting AD to Zen to buy it more cheaply at Zen market.
BOOM! 1000 AD Profit.
-shrugs-
Considering its a 1% chance to bind a weapon/armor enchant using a press ward makes it a stupid gamble. Looking at it now here is what I see happening this is all if you were building them from shards all the way up to perfect
Lesser Enchantments going up by 500K -> Needs 1 Coal to Make a Lesser Going from a shard
Normal Enchantments going up by 1.5M -> Needs 3 Coal Wards to Make a Normal Going from a shard
Greater Enchantments going up by 3.0M -> Needs 6 Coal Wards to Make a Greater Going from a shard
Perfect Enchantments going up by 6.0M -> Needs 12 Coal Wards to Make a Perfect Going from a shard
and prices will get even worse if the coal prices push past 500K ea. These prices do not even include marks needed either. So save your coin the economy is about to get a lot worse in NW.
If they are going to leave this BOA on Coals from the Tradebar Merchant and Invoc Chest. Then Please increase the bind rate from 1% - 5% so using press wards is somewhat viable.
This was stated in regards to how the player base should provide feedback.
PWE would do well to take this advice for themselves.
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You have to remember you need 2 normals and 1 coal to get it to greater.
Normal Enchantments going up by 1.5M -> Needs 3 Coal Wards to Make a Normal Going from a shard
Greater Enchantments going up by 3.5M -> Needs 7 Coal Wards to Make a Greater Going from a shard
Perfect Enchantments going up by 7.5M -> Needs 15 Coal Wards to Make a Perfect Going from a shard
Thanks Folks, Corrections to my Cost Calculation due to the Coal Ward Increase here is what you can expect to see in the next few weeks
So there is a quick solution to this whole mess -> take 500K get your 1000 Zen -> Buy the coal and poof its unbound.... Now unless my math is seriously off that should be about right.