You make it sound like 20 people is a lot. This game has over a thousand in the main city at any given time. 20 people out of that thousand is roughly 2%.
Or better yet, a guild of 20 people sitting in zone chat spamming report on everyone. Imagine that? Not exactly hard to pull off, in fact one person with some free time and a decent computer can pull it off alone.
Again, no other MMO has a system like this. Other, dare I say much more successful, MMOs have established trade chats/lfg chats, and rate limiters that stop the real problems. They don't give people control over other people's gaming experience.
Why do you think it's fair to "punish" people because they wanted to use zone chat how they saw fit? Why is your way the correct way? Perhaps the other 980 people in zone chat don't care that you are linking an item?
20 is far from the majority. Add me to ignore if you don't like what I have to say.
Those 20 people speak for a lot more than just 20 people. I really dislike all the stuff that is posted in zone chat in this game. All the comments about buying and selling and looking for groups I would prefer not to be said at all. Having said that, I have never ignored a player in any game ever and will never do so. I do not use the ignore function...ever. However, when one of these people that is posting the above types of comments gets silenced, I am happy. I am glad their needless sentences are no longer flooding my screen. Those 20 people helped me out. They may be 2% but they speak for and represent more than 2% of the players.
Those 20 people speak for a lot more than just 20 people. I really dislike all the stuff that is posted in zone chat in this game. All the comments about buying and selling and looking for groups I would prefer not to be said at all. Having said that, I have never ignored a player in any game ever and will never do so. I do not use the ignore function...ever. However, when one of these people that is posting the above types of comments gets silenced, I am happy. I am glad their needless sentences are no longer flooding my screen. Those 20 people helped me out. They may be 2% but they speak for and represent more than 2% of the players.
I just get banned for sending trade msg every 2 min. People that are offering the same trades like I'm just report me to get me banned. Now i can't use chat to find a group. I can't use guild chat. I can't even whisper friends to make a dungeon party. This is ridiculous. Now i can just use useless LFG system that can't even compose party properly.
Yes because linking an item once, is a reason to be banned from all chat in game.
You are avoiding the issue. You are clearly trolling and from this point forward I will not acknowledge you.
I don't believe you or your conveniently happening to take screenshots. You were probably a serial spammer over some good period of time and people finally got sick of seeing you constantly touting your stuff. Your screenshots show that people were swamping the chat channel with trades so if people were reporting everyone who made a post I would not blame them. Maybe the rest of them were silenced also but unlike you, they learned their lesson.
You don't want to be silenced then use the trade channel. You don't like the chat rules there's the door over there.
I don't believe you or your conveniently happening to take screenshots. You were probably a serial spammer over some good period of time and people finally got sick of seeing you constantly touting your stuff. Your screenshots show that people were swamping the chat channel with trades so if people were reporting everyone who made a post I would not blame them. Maybe the rest of them were silenced also but unlike you, they learned their lesson.
You don't want to be silenced then use the trade channel. You don't like the chat rules there's the door over there.
Trade channel? Clearly we aren't playing the same game, why are you trying to partake in this discussion?
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my guild already reports anyone not trading/selling/buying.
RP? that's a report
complaining about gold sellers? that's a report
poor spelling? that's a report
complaining about exploiters? that's a report
wanting a wipe? that's a report
Trade channel? Clearly we aren't playing the same game, why are you trying to partake in this discussion?
Yes, the player made trade channel. Or make your own. I don't care so long as I don't have to see your spam. I'd like to see the silencing extended to the forums so we don't have the constant wail of 'but I don't like the rules'. As people have said - posting trades in zone chat runs the risk of being silenced. You now know this. Being silenced or not being silenced is now totally in your own hands.
For all the people in guilds, or that have friends that they can't talk to during their mute, might I suggest one of two widely used chat programs: Vent, or Team Speak. Check it out, it doesn't matter if you can't type into chat, you can either have it voice activated, or Push to Talk. Now, if you get banned from that, we'll have to start suspecting you're having more problems than just posting once to sell something...
Reading comprehension is essential in a medium that requires reading for communication.
Joking aside, saying you are going to intentionally abuse the system is probably not a good idea.
People have stated that the devs have left the decision to the community to decide what's right, if that holds true then there is nothing wrong in what I said.
There are people scamming in zone chat, there are people looking to get a better deal, there are people looking to trade (common, avoid wait time and AH fees), people looking to sell (avoid causing a market crash via undercutting). I don't have a problem with any of this.
People looking to form a group, no problem with that. I'd never use the dungeon finder, never. Not even if they fixed it. Why would I? I can tailor my group to a specific GS and composition for whatever dungeon I want to do and I can inspect everyone in the group prior to leaving if I want to.
People asking random questions, who cares? Answer their question, be a community. Or you know, chat ban everyone so you're playing single player and can be RP as **** lol.
For all the people in guilds, or that have friends that they can't talk to during their mute, might I suggest one of two widely used chat programs: Vent, or Team Speak. Check it out, it doesn't matter if you can't type into chat, you can either have it voice activated, or Push to Talk. Now, if you get banned from that, we'll have to start suspecting you're having more problems than just posting once to sell something...
And what do you suggest the people without guilds do? Or people that are in guilds that don't use voice chat?
Your solutions are not solutions, and you are avoiding the issue.
Ok you win. I was spamming the **** out of zone (I wasn't)
Why does this justify a ban from all chat in game?
To teach you a lesson so that you don't do it again.
If the punishment was only to ban you from zone chat for 24 hours, you'd likely wouldn't learn from that as much as banning you from all chats for 24 hours would.
If you still don't learn from that, well then there's just no educating some people.
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Once again, the punishment needs to be severe enough to discourage the person from continuing the same behaviour.
Behavior such as using chat for anything apparently. Are you honestly stupid enough to not see the problem here? Like really? Or are you guys just trolling.
I hope it's trolling because man, what a display of idiocy...
To teach you a lesson so that you don't do it again.
If the punishment was only to ban you from zone chat for 24 hours, you'd likely wouldn't learn from that as much as banning you from all chats for 24 hours would.
If you still don't learn from that, well then there's just no educating some people.
So what's wrong with banning from zone chat for 24 hours, if they do it again, ban them from zone for 24 more hours?
Why do you seem to think it's OK to ban them from chatting entirely in game?
There's a reason successful MMO's do not use this system. It ruins the gaming experience for people. If someone is spamming, ignore them like an adult. People are using the report system for vengeance.
Ok you win. I was spamming the **** out of zone (I wasn't)
Why does this justify a ban from all chat in game?
Because the designers have decided that is the punishment. It needs no further justification than that. It just needs you to consider the risk of a ban against the reward of a trade next time you want to sell something and if you make the wrong call it then requires you to suck it up like a man and not come on here to whine about it.
Because the designers have decided that is the punishment. It needs no further justification than that. It just needs you to consider the risk of a ban against the reward of a trade next time you want to sell something and if you make the wrong call it then requires you to suck it up like a man and not come on here to whine about it.
Is this white knighting? Seriously, why are people defending an easily abused system that's being abused...Banning all chat makes no sense. I've never been banned but seriously, how dumb are you guys to think this is good?
I'm ok with that. If that means all the people with the maturity levels of teenagers get shoo'd off or silenced, it's just fine by me.
If you think everyone must act like you to be mature you have a LOT of growing up to do. This comes off as childish behavior to take pleasure in tattling on anything you possibly can.
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Those 20 people speak for a lot more than just 20 people. I really dislike all the stuff that is posted in zone chat in this game. All the comments about buying and selling and looking for groups I would prefer not to be said at all. Having said that, I have never ignored a player in any game ever and will never do so. I do not use the ignore function...ever. However, when one of these people that is posting the above types of comments gets silenced, I am happy. I am glad their needless sentences are no longer flooding my screen. Those 20 people helped me out. They may be 2% but they speak for and represent more than 2% of the players.
Yes that logic. 2% represent 98% of the people.
Sounds like the wealthy in America.
I don't believe you or your conveniently happening to take screenshots. You were probably a serial spammer over some good period of time and people finally got sick of seeing you constantly touting your stuff. Your screenshots show that people were swamping the chat channel with trades so if people were reporting everyone who made a post I would not blame them. Maybe the rest of them were silenced also but unlike you, they learned their lesson.
You don't want to be silenced then use the trade channel. You don't like the chat rules there's the door over there.
Trade channel? Clearly we aren't playing the same game, why are you trying to partake in this discussion?
Abuse like reporting all trades as spam? Wow. This thread is full of abusers.
AH THE PLAYER CREATED ONE!!!!!!! The one NOBODY knows about. I should have known. I am so sorry
That will reach all 2 people that use it.
/sarcasm.
^ Seems to me like the people do not like non-trade chat. I see no abuse.
Yes, the player made trade channel. Or make your own. I don't care so long as I don't have to see your spam. I'd like to see the silencing extended to the forums so we don't have the constant wail of 'but I don't like the rules'. As people have said - posting trades in zone chat runs the risk of being silenced. You now know this. Being silenced or not being silenced is now totally in your own hands.
People have stated that the devs have left the decision to the community to decide what's right, if that holds true then there is nothing wrong in what I said.
There are people scamming in zone chat, there are people looking to get a better deal, there are people looking to trade (common, avoid wait time and AH fees), people looking to sell (avoid causing a market crash via undercutting). I don't have a problem with any of this.
People looking to form a group, no problem with that. I'd never use the dungeon finder, never. Not even if they fixed it. Why would I? I can tailor my group to a specific GS and composition for whatever dungeon I want to do and I can inspect everyone in the group prior to leaving if I want to.
People asking random questions, who cares? Answer their question, be a community. Or you know, chat ban everyone so you're playing single player and can be RP as **** lol.
Which was only a small part of the chat. Of course you aren't going to show us any section that may show you spamming.
Ok you win. I was spamming the **** out of zone (I wasn't)
Why does this justify a ban from all chat in game?
And what do you suggest the people without guilds do? Or people that are in guilds that don't use voice chat?
Your solutions are not solutions, and you are avoiding the issue.
To teach you a lesson so that you don't do it again.
If the punishment was only to ban you from zone chat for 24 hours, you'd likely wouldn't learn from that as much as banning you from all chats for 24 hours would.
If you still don't learn from that, well then there's just no educating some people.
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Once again, the punishment needs to be severe enough to discourage the person from continuing the same behaviour.
People like you are the reason mmos have to be covered in bubble wrap and nothing can be interesting. Stop being such a tool.
Behavior such as using chat for anything apparently. Are you honestly stupid enough to not see the problem here? Like really? Or are you guys just trolling.
I hope it's trolling because man, what a display of idiocy...
So what's wrong with banning from zone chat for 24 hours, if they do it again, ban them from zone for 24 more hours?
Why do you seem to think it's OK to ban them from chatting entirely in game?
There's a reason successful MMO's do not use this system. It ruins the gaming experience for people. If someone is spamming, ignore them like an adult. People are using the report system for vengeance.
Because the designers have decided that is the punishment. It needs no further justification than that. It just needs you to consider the risk of a ban against the reward of a trade next time you want to sell something and if you make the wrong call it then requires you to suck it up like a man and not come on here to whine about it.
No, your over sensitivity and absurdly short sighted attitudes have turned the genre into daycare.
Is this white knighting? Seriously, why are people defending an easily abused system that's being abused...Banning all chat makes no sense. I've never been banned but seriously, how dumb are you guys to think this is good?
When did mmo players become so utterly spineless?
Wait, don't tell me, I know this one.
Is it - 'don't spam'?
Well, it certainly discouraged a friend from ever trying to organize an in-game event.
If you think everyone must act like you to be mature you have a LOT of growing up to do. This comes off as childish behavior to take pleasure in tattling on anything you possibly can.
Grow up.