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Tiefling Racial Bonuses Revealed
stormshade
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We?ve update our races page with information detailing the traits and bonuses of the Tiefling Race.
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Was waiting for this one
The rest one can guess from pnp.
So does "strikes" mean spells also seems a good question.
It's looking like most races will have a +2 to two stats except humans?
If it's to stay close to pnp shouldn't it be +2 to ANY ?
Tell me it's not so.
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We dont have nearly enough info to know that just yet. One of the best things about Humans is that they are very adaptable: they can be literally any class without much problem and succeed. Because of their adaptable nature, Humans start with lower base stats but more feats and skills than other races.
In 4E Humans are supposed to get +2 to only one stat, unlike the other races who get a pair of bonuses, but the +2 Humans get can be to any of the six stats.
On balance, Humans are excellent at most classes(much more so than any other race), but are slightly weaker at classes that need two max stats or are dependent on 3+ ability scores (when you need decent scores in four stats, the loss of the second +2 hurts).
They also get three solid racial abilities, which put them on par with the best of 4E's races. The extra feat isn't as powerful as it was in 3E (4E's feats aren't as game changing and is less valuable since you get more during the course of the game), its still pretty strong.
The +1 to Fort/Ref/Will is one of the most overlooked racial features, and is insanely powerful in pnp, questionable value in Neverwinter Online. The third At-Will attack is either worthless (on a class like Ranger who uses one attack 90% of the time) or fantastic (on a class like Bard, Wizard or Druid who rely on being versatile).
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Seconded!
Come on Storm, Bards!!! Rangers!! Paladins!
We need em on launch!!!
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Played a bard in EQ1, didn't really enjoy it as much as my druid. perhaps NW will handle it differently.
Ranger would be interesting...
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I challenge Stormshade to answer this one question,
Will this game ever contain a believable druid player class?
DDO delayed it for years for a reason, because their druid is not believable, imho, as their companion AI is abysmal. Can Cryptic improve on Turbine's effort to make a playable druid class worthwhile down the road?
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4e druids do not change into four footed form. They remain on two foot even when changed.
Genasi would be different. All those animations of fire and water - the helmets and armor would have to be redone for them differently.
Dwarf Cleric's for the win!
Aye, Dwarf Clerics! But ermm.. what would you call him?
Wait ... think I got it...
but you'll have to pm me for the link!
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A little editing here and....
WE...ARE...CLERICS!
Aye your right about them being more adaptable and thus why its only one +2 but to any stat.
From what I'm seeing that has been changed to +2 to con period unless the info is incorrect? Which was my main inquiry.
ABILITY SCORE BONUSES
Race Fixed Bonus Either/Or
Changeling Cha Dex/Int
Deva Wis Int/Cha
Dragonborn Cha Str/Con
Drow Dex Wis/Cha
Dwarf Con Str/Wis
Eladrin Int Dex/Cha
Elf Dex Int/Wis
Genasi Int Str/Con
Githzerai Wis Dex/Int
Gnome Int Dex/Cha
Goliath Str Con/Wis
Half-Elf Con Wis/Cha
Halfling Dex Con/Cha
Half-Orc Dex Str/Con
Human any none
Kalashtar Cha Int/Wis
Minotaur Str Con/Wis
Mul Con Str/Wis
Revenant Dex Cha/Con
Shadar-kai Dex Int/Wis
Shardmind Int Wis/Cha
Shifter Wis Str/Dex*
Thri-kreen Dex Str/Wis
Tiefling Cha Con/Int
Warforged Con Str/Int
Wilden Wis Dex/Con
This is the new stats distribution system isn't it?
This here is the old method right ?
Either way seems like they have made an error ?
Looks to me they decided to go with the old method but then decided humans get +2 con( no choice in the matter) thereby undoing their "adaptability" and one of the reasons they get one less +2.
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and unless you can critically hit with magic - which i dunno- there blood hunt is kinda meh...
Tieflings are NOT shunned by other races. Remember, the 4E story of their origin is an old empire generations ago against the Dragonborn generations ago. They have Cha because many came from warlocks which uses force of will/personality thus the +2 Cha or wizards thus +2 Int.
Because they look like goats and capricorn's can be trusted?
(p.s. @truth's post is right on the changes in lore.)
I dunno about being shunned, female tiefling warlocks are pretty "HOT..."
Poor Francis...
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All I can say about her is, RAWR
I don't know about nemesis, but I wouldn't shun her
Maybe it's his first time with a tiefling, once ya get them out of their less-than-social shell, they can get kinda rowdy, especially with the lights dimmed down..........
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Seriously?
Tieflings are supposed to get +2 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma.
Also a +2 racial bonus on Bluff and Hide checks.
Loving darkness they make hella great rogues.
They are generally sneaky, subtle, and generally conniving.
Well, this has been the reasoning since tieflings were introduced back in 1993.
Fast forward to the 4e re-work of tieflings.... with a cha boost, that would lean some to roll tieflings as ..... Paladins (assuming Paladins are actually a playable class)??? That's ridiculous.
(In 4e talk, you could take Wrath of the Crimson Legion. It gives you cha based melee basic attacks, with full damage bonus. 2nd level you can pick up a multiclass feat, such as soldier of faith).
Just as ironic (and moronic if you ask me), the one Martial path 4e tieflings excel at is the most visible one on the battlefield. Warlord.
All around butchering of the d&d tradition, yuck.
Lastly, if we MUST do things the 4e way, in terms of 4e statistics, Tieflings gain a bonus to Intelligence or Constitution (player selectable) and to Charisma.
Does this mean WE DO NOT GET TO PICK OUR STARTING STATS?!!
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If you look at page 2 post number 17 Andre I kind of asked this question too but using humans as an example.
I'm not a 4e expert by far but from what I have found there was 2 methods for stats, the old way and the new way. Been waiting for some input from peeps that are more familiar with 4e but so far zippo just some humorous posting.
In my previous post if one looks you can see the old method was each race had 2 stats bonuses that are FIXED except for a couple races. The new method had one FIXED stat and one you could CHOOSE.
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Yeah I am no 4e expert that's for sure. My loyalty ends at 3.5e. 2e was D&D nirvana for me.
However, I'm giving it my all to try and wrap myself around making sense of 4e... but the more I read about it.. the more I see that's changed... and apparently will change again in Neverwinter Online.
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It's also changing again, majorly, for the new D&D Next Ruleset slated for 2014. From what I understand and have seen, D&D Next is going back to the roots with less emphasis on the Rules and more Emphasis on DM Choice. The issue that has lead to many not liking 3rd and 4th, myself included, was that they were mainly developed by "normal developers" and not D&D Playing Developers.
D&D Next is being rebuilt from the ground up by some of the remaining founding fathers of D&D, namely Ed Greenwood and other major Authors like R.A. Salvatore. I'm liking what I am seeing so far and might actually convert my Campaign to D&D Next from its current 2nd Ed Ruleset. Time will tell, as well that is permiting that we survive the end of the Mayan Calendar in a couple months. ;-P
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