I see the event has been pushed back on both consoles which is a good thing. Obviously this event is not working properly on PC. The part I don't understand is the tales of old events prior to mod 16 were pretty good. Were they easy? Maybe for some but reality is that not all groups could finish all 5 rounds. Of course end game groups could without much struggle but isn't that why they are end game?
With the changes that came in mod 16 and now 17 for PC, I don't understand the need to have this event IL scale players. The event itself scales in difficulty as groups chose to continue to further rounds/runs. Without IL scaling not every group will beat all 5 rounds. They didn't in mod 15 and with the changes post mod 15 they still won't. Right now, no one can.
Is the point of the event to be endgame? I would think it is for most to try and enjoy an old dungeon, not just end game players. Right now with IL scaling, it;s not for anyone to enjoy. Think about the IL scaling part of your equation. These old dungeons are cool. They were fun back in the day .They weren't super easy but they were beatable. No one is going to want to put the time into this event knowing they won't make it past the 4th round. Then have to run this long HAMSTER dungeon a million times to get the cookie at the end of the event.
I understand that there are issues but please-please-please ... there is a preview server, there are players willing to test! You could use it. It would have shown: The event is broken. Even (real) endgame groups can barely finish stage 3 and stage 4 is impossible. So most players gain 3 coins in an 1h run. That makes players frustrated and angry. They played event pt.1 and pt.2, collected the stuff... are looking forward to the final set and then they fail. Everybody fails, some people with no life start grinding even with 1 or 3 coins per run. Our guild is full of raging players. I told them: Dont worry party people! They will fix it and extend the event again. ... ... ...
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It was on preview. There was a thread. No one used it. Can't blame them for not putting this one on preview when it was up there.
Don't get me wrong, it's still unacceptable to release content this buggy. But it was there to be tested if people wanted to.
I don't understand the need to have this event IL scale players. The event itself scales in difficulty as groups chose to continue to further rounds/runs. Without IL scaling not every group will beat all 5 rounds. They didn't in mod 15 and with the changes post mod 15 they still won't. Right now, no one can.
Total agreement with this. No reason for TOO to be scaled ever. The difficulty is supposed increase through the use of the "debuffs" on each consecutive run. This event takes enough time without artificial difficulty being added to delay further. No one wants to spend hours trying to run this.
We really need updates on this as time is running out in approx 8h, and many people were running this tirelessly without possibility to even see or beat x4 or x5 run at all due to how difficult it was. Even tanks with 800k HP were dying out in teams, not to mention lag spikes.
Tracker gave x2 coins, but inventory gave x1 coins, locking the amount of coins per day to 22 instead of intended 45. Many couldn't finish runs because it takes a lot of time and grind even by regular standards to what we've been used to in MMO grind.
Many people adjusted their runs to x2 meaning that you get only 3 coins. For many people this means 6 hours of daily grind to only get HALF as much coins than intended by original tracker.
When I make the choice to leave the game, I won't come back. Stuff like this makes it an easy choice. I'm sure there are more people who thinks the same.
This is one of the most loathsome grind to do all these t1 t2 t3runs but I finished it and got artie . With no Flipping possibility to get chapters now. When I farmed on multi toons. So no sash no chapters and alotta angst. Good event yall. Top notch. Plz fix this
Hi, I have over 140 coins and I did't get chapter, I have been doing this every day before and after work hitting limit everyday. Same as last events. I feel like I have wasted my time, right? Guess all players like me will get this for free now because it's ridiculus. Especially since it was bugged at the start! Thank you and i'm waitng for an answer from Cryptic.
Hi, I have over 140 coins and I did't get chapter, I have been doing this every day before and after work hitting limit everyday. Same as last events. I feel like I have wasted my time, right? Guess all players like me will get this for free now because it's ridiculus. Especially since it was bugged at the start! Thank you and i'm waitng for an answer from Cryptic.
Dread Vault Horror: Many players are gone. My friends list is shrinking and seeing people say hello when they come "Visit" the game. Dread Vault was the endgame dungeon at one time and i remember the secret rooms (which are not worth the time to visit more then 1x in this horrible "bad day at work" type of event) as this dungeon was really fun! Control Wizzies controlling the Hulks and the ......Ya know what? The Physics of this game have changed.Not just the scaling. Finding people to run this is a chore in itself to assure you at least get a 2x but i was fortunate and was in many 3x groups. Did anyone attain the TOP TIER? 5 times? I like a fool ran this over and over as i am an achieveaholic and really wanted a chapter, but not at the price of the Hours spent. @terramak@nitocris83 I may, and many ..(more every day) long time players are leaving full time play and its darn near impossible to even obtain 50k rad as a new player, being a guild leader of a 5+ year old guild its a darn shame what is going on with the game I and many others enjoy. One thing. Events are made to have fun. I get the feeling like i am going to Work when i log in anymore. Top tier of any event should be attainable in a reasonable amount of time...not running the same hard thing over and over....trying to complete 3 of an event ......Oh i forgot one thing! I forgot to mention the state if the game over the weekend. Inside the Tales of Old dungeon was an amazing feature! We were entertained thru-out this event with Mr Lag!! He brought super special time outs...that YES ..we had the connection bug ,,Mr Lag would Burp and place you outside in PEnclave and your group would be handicapped. He also brought ....MR Lag brought Rubber bands to bounce you and your friends all over the cliffs and down in the valleys of death....Come on,,please fix this stuff so we can play.,.not work. Thanks
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jessiefloraMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 21Arc User
I also did not receive a Fabled Chapter. I turned in quests to Nipsy twice after having fulfilled the requirement of 135 coins earned but she did not give me a Fabled Chapter. I was trying for a third time but maintenance got me.
To be clear with 136 coins already earned, I turned in and received one coin but no Fabled Chapter; and with 137 coins already earned, I turned in and received 3 coins but no Fabled Chapter.
I already have the neck and wanted the waist so that was 140 coins and week of solid grind for sweet f.a.
But ... at least I won’t need to run the next Tales Season Event.
It was on preview. There was a thread. No one used it. Can't blame them for not putting this one on preview when it was up there.
Don't get me wrong, it's still unacceptable to release content this buggy. But it was there to be tested if people wanted to.
Why would anyone bother to put time and effort in testing and doing their job when they won't event listen to that. I'm giving feedback about my class issues since day 1 of preview (over 6 months now) and their answer was taking care of an annoying sound only. The game as it is is in my opinion still in an Alpha version, and should be tested by the people who developped it, not by the users that come to play and have a good time.
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dread4moorMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,154Arc User
Hi, I have over 140 coins and I did't get chapter, I have been doing this every day before and after work hitting limit everyday. Same as last events. I feel like I have wasted my time, right? Guess all players like me will get this for free now because it's ridiculus. Especially since it was bugged at the start! Thank you and i'm waitng for an answer from Cryptic.
This event smelled rotten from the start. Posted tactful feedback like a good sheep, but after that first failed patch... Glad I gave up on it early and didn't waste any (more) of my life on this.
I am Took.
"Full plate and packing steel" in NW since 2013.
Heads in the sand, silence till the event ends, no reply, no refund, no compensation! HAMSTER, if I would make half or quarter of such mistakes in my workplace I would have been fired in no time. The fish stinks from the head...
Hide The Pain Harold!
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tassedethe13Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 806Arc User
"EDIT 2019-09-05: We're still hard at work adjusting and testing the balance changes. Our current target is for an internal team to be able to complete Difficulty x3 with a reasonable amount of coordination, and make decent progress through Difficulty x4."
So basically, you released something that you know no one (including your own internal team) couldn't complete? Really? Really?
And you expected what? People to react how?
You set us all up to fail on purpose? *SMH*
Wow, thank you for admitting you are purposely wasting our time and effort. I'll keep that in mind.
This was not working as intended. Nobody can persuade me and say that this was some intended way. If THAT mess was intended, then thank you for ruining something I've been looking up to finish for a long time. However, I really do not want to believe that.
I do not mind an extensive grind, as I've done just that for many hours. But I did not get everything because resetting the event took away what I've been gathering up to that moment. You took away my already obtained coins and I do not know why was that necessary or needed.
Although I didn't manage to get 140 coins, because the CAP WAS 22 COINS PER DAY AND RESETTING THE EVENT TOOK AWAY MY COINS, I know people who were religiously grinding this since day 1 after the reset nobody even knew happened. We don't even have the tracker for how many coins we've already obtained, which is fabulous!
Again, I CAN'T commit myself to run 7 days for 6 hours a day!
Yes, I know people who did complete getting over 140 Coins and did not get a fabled chapter! This is not a small issue, the event was a total and utter disaster if we look objectively. The only way to fix this right now is to give people who spend a lot of time in the event a piece of a fabled chapter at the "Claims agent". OR to make it so that 4th event will allow a purchase of the 2nd piece with 1 fabled chapter instead. Big disappointment for this because you actually HURT people who were collecting gear/stuff for more than SIX MONTHS! This event shouldn't be something you overlook like that, it should be a commitment if you are going to make it last for an entire year. And the items it offers should be vastly superior or at least equally good to any other gear that drops throughout the year in top tier runs. Right now Orcus set is still BiS and there is little to no incentive to change that set for a bunch of people. We do not run this to get the items, we run this to show we like the game and D&D. I will await round four of this event now and I hope it won't be such a mess. If you think I'm angry, yes I am. But not nearly enough as others I've met.
:RANT OFF:
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Left the Game due to heavy Damage Control & Missing Spanish Language
This has been unacceptable from the start. What is being done about it? I expect "flowers and chocolates" to as part of your apology... But now it looks like you are making us forget about it. One sided relationship here... @nitocris83@terramak
Event not fixed, no more words from the devs, no interest in re-doing the event or any kind of compensation for not getting an ítem we will have to wait 1 year to get again… great job guys keep up the good work
Its bad that the event is now over and also that some players did not got their chapter. well... in thats the first time that I say or ask me: It should be better that an Event get under tests to find issues before release that in the game. Many people like me dont run these kind of events when its broken or impossible to complete. i did the last 2 other tales well but now in M17 with scaling and "reduced" Stats its a difficult way to do it. I wish, you rework the Time-System from 5min to 10min per extra timer and give us more extra lifes in there. maybe reducing the health on enemies can help as well. anyway hope we hear something from the devs/Mods here and not to the next tales...
I see the event has been pushed back on both consoles...
Does this mean that you are actively looking into the issue still and planning on fixing it, so when the event is released on XBox and PS4 it will be "fixed" or more do-able in comparison to the PC version? If so well done, but can we then get a redo of the new "fixed" event on PC? Or at least get some compensation for it?
I understand that the work is getting difficult, having to push out new content, make changes to old content, fix the code base, attend to all the bug reports and Q&A, but can we perhaps get some indication as to a plan for this issue. Even if it's just a "No, we won't be doing anymore work to this event".
I see the event has been pushed back on both consoles...
Does this mean that you are actively looking into the issue still and planning on fixing it, so when the event is released on XBox and PS4 it will be "fixed" or more do-able in comparison to the PC version? If so well done, but can we then get a redo of the new "fixed" event on PC? Or at least get some compensation for it?
I understand that the work is getting difficult, having to push out new content, make changes to old content, fix the code base, attend to all the bug reports and Q&A, but can we perhaps get some indication as to a plan for this issue. Even if it's just a "No, we won't be doing anymore work to this event".
@nitocris83 Nope, we aint letting it die just that easily, we'll keep commenting till we get a response and if you decide to close the thread, we'll open a new one. Just so you know that ignoring us wont solve anything but increase the flame
Lardeson CW not Mage. Where's my fireball and my thunderbolt?
@nitocris83 Nope, we aint letting it die just that easily, we'll keep commenting till we get a response and if you decide to close the thread, we'll open a new one. Just so you know that ignoring us wont solve anything but increase the flame
Sadly, this seems to be what they are trying to do...to just ignore the issue and hope the players will let it rest. How many times do we need to keep asking for some type of reply about the issue? The excuse that they are too busy, sorry that's not gonna fly....it takes all of 5 min to ask the developers what is going on and even less time to post a reply about it to the players.
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darthpotaterMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,259Arc User
Calm down guys they are preparing the gifts for players, just wait.
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With the changes that came in mod 16 and now 17 for PC, I don't understand the need to have this event IL scale players. The event itself scales in difficulty as groups chose to continue to further rounds/runs. Without IL scaling not every group will beat all 5 rounds. They didn't in mod 15 and with the changes post mod 15 they still won't. Right now, no one can.
Is the point of the event to be endgame? I would think it is for most to try and enjoy an old dungeon, not just end game players. Right now with IL scaling, it;s not for anyone to enjoy. Think about the IL scaling part of your equation. These old dungeons are cool. They were fun back in the day .They weren't super easy but they were beatable. No one is going to want to put the time into this event knowing they won't make it past the 4th round. Then have to run this long HAMSTER dungeon a million times to get the cookie at the end of the event.
Don't get me wrong, it's still unacceptable to release content this buggy. But it was there to be tested if people wanted to. Total agreement with this. No reason for TOO to be scaled ever. The difficulty is supposed increase through the use of the "debuffs" on each consecutive run. This event takes enough time without artificial difficulty being added to delay further. No one wants to spend hours trying to run this.
We really need updates on this as time is running out in approx 8h, and many people were running this tirelessly without possibility to even see or beat x4 or x5 run at all due to how difficult it was. Even tanks with 800k HP were dying out in teams, not to mention lag spikes.
Tracker gave x2 coins, but inventory gave x1 coins, locking the amount of coins per day to 22 instead of intended 45. Many couldn't finish runs because it takes a lot of time and grind even by regular standards to what we've been used to in MMO grind.
Many people adjusted their runs to x2 meaning that you get only 3 coins. For many people this means 6 hours of daily grind to only get HALF as much coins than intended by original tracker.
@terramak @nitocris83
Please tell us some good news on this...
Thank you.
Dread Vault Horror:
Many players are gone. My friends list is shrinking and seeing people say hello when they come "Visit" the game.
Dread Vault was the endgame dungeon at one time and i remember the secret rooms (which are not worth the time to visit more then 1x in this horrible "bad day at work" type of event) as this dungeon was really fun!
Control Wizzies controlling the Hulks and the ......Ya know what?
The Physics of this game have changed.Not just the scaling. Finding people to run this is a chore in itself to assure you at least get a 2x but i was fortunate and was in many 3x groups. Did anyone attain the TOP TIER? 5 times?
I like a fool ran this over and over as i am an achieveaholic and really wanted a chapter, but not at the price of the Hours spent.
@terramak @nitocris83
I may, and many ..(more every day) long time players are leaving full time play and its darn near impossible to even obtain 50k rad as a new player, being a guild leader of a 5+ year old guild its a darn shame what is going on with the game I and many others enjoy.
One thing.
Events are made to have fun. I get the feeling like i am going to Work when i log in anymore. Top tier of any event should be attainable in a reasonable amount of time...not running the same hard thing over and over....trying to complete 3 of an event ......Oh i forgot one thing! I forgot to mention the state if the game over the weekend. Inside the Tales of Old dungeon was an amazing feature! We were entertained thru-out this event with Mr Lag!! He brought super special time outs...that YES ..we had the connection bug ,,Mr Lag would Burp and place you outside in PEnclave and your group would be handicapped. He also brought ....MR Lag brought Rubber bands to bounce you and your friends all over the cliffs and down in the valleys of death....Come on,,please fix this stuff so we can play.,.not work.
Thanks
To be clear with 136 coins already earned, I turned in and received one coin but no Fabled Chapter; and with 137 coins already earned, I turned in and received 3 coins but no Fabled Chapter.
I already have the neck and wanted the waist so that was 140 coins and week of solid grind for sweet f.a.
But ... at least I won’t need to run the next Tales Season Event.
Glad I gave up on it early and didn't waste any (more) of my life on this.
I am Took.
"Full plate and packing steel" in NW since 2013.
"EDIT 2019-09-05: We're still hard at work adjusting and testing the balance changes. Our current target is for an internal team to be able to complete Difficulty x3 with a reasonable amount of coordination, and make decent progress through Difficulty x4."
So basically, you released something that you know no one (including your own internal team) couldn't complete? Really? Really?
And you expected what? People to react how?
You set us all up to fail on purpose? *SMH*
Wow, thank you for admitting you are purposely wasting our time and effort. I'll keep that in mind.
This was not working as intended. Nobody can persuade me and say that this was some intended way. If THAT mess was intended, then thank you for ruining something I've been looking up to finish for a long time. However, I really do not want to believe that.
I do not mind an extensive grind, as I've done just that for many hours. But I did not get everything because resetting the event took away what I've been gathering up to that moment. You took away my already obtained coins and I do not know why was that necessary or needed.
Although I didn't manage to get 140 coins, because the CAP WAS 22 COINS PER DAY AND RESETTING THE EVENT TOOK AWAY MY COINS, I know people who were religiously grinding this since day 1 after the reset nobody even knew happened. We don't even have the tracker for how many coins we've already obtained, which is fabulous!
Again, I CAN'T commit myself to run 7 days for 6 hours a day!
Yes, I know people who did complete getting over 140 Coins and did not get a fabled chapter! This is not a small issue, the event was a total and utter disaster if we look objectively.
The only way to fix this right now is to give people who spend a lot of time in the event a piece of a fabled chapter at the "Claims agent".
OR to make it so that 4th event will allow a purchase of the 2nd piece with 1 fabled chapter instead.
Big disappointment for this because you actually HURT people who were collecting gear/stuff for more than SIX MONTHS!
This event shouldn't be something you overlook like that, it should be a commitment if you are going to make it last for an entire year. And the items it offers should be vastly superior or at least equally good to any other gear that drops throughout the year in top tier runs.
Right now Orcus set is still BiS and there is little to no incentive to change that set for a bunch of people.
We do not run this to get the items, we run this to show we like the game and D&D.
I will await round four of this event now and I hope it won't be such a mess. If you think I'm angry, yes I am. But not nearly enough as others I've met.
:RANT OFF:
Best regards
creeper
Does this mean that you are actively looking into the issue still and planning on fixing it, so when the event is released on XBox and PS4 it will be "fixed" or more do-able in comparison to the PC version? If so well done, but can we then get a redo of the new "fixed" event on PC? Or at least get some compensation for it?
I understand that the work is getting difficult, having to push out new content, make changes to old content, fix the code base, attend to all the bug reports and Q&A, but can we perhaps get some indication as to a plan for this issue. Even if it's just a "No, we won't be doing anymore work to this event".
Can we get areply about this event please @nitocris83 @asterdahl @mimicking#6533
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