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  • qaqua199qaqua199 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    PvP Can we get a some new maps and maybe make gauntlgrym happen as frequently as it used to. i'll save the rest of my opions for when Pvp becomes the main topic. Ps Xune is the coolest Hr, better than Tyrion :expressionless:
  • kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    Systems Design (stats, balance, etc.) + PVP Rebirth Russian servers as well dont forget about what was your pvp bread and butter income ..

    DEVs now do you get it the whole community conspired to hyjack the thread and vote only other and
    Systems Design (stats, balance, etc.) lol please continue to ignore this anomaly ..

    have the design the new pvp map for foundry contest already...
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User

    I honestly think both Foundry and PvP are the most neglected "Features" of this game. Rather than dividing ourselves over which deserves the most "love," both communities should unite in calling for improvements to BOTH. A well rounded player base is a healthy player base and benefits the game as a whole. By standing together, we can make this game better for ALL players.

    They are also both game features which were AMAZING in 2013 and their interested playerbases have been tripping over themselves asking "wha happen?" ever since.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    kreatyve said:

    I do not think any of you read the OP. This is not about what you want in the game, it is about what you want future livestreams and Q&As to be to be about. I think the next one should be about powercreep, a new level cap increase, stat caps, things of that nature.

    Yep. That would fall under System Designs, if I'm not mistaken.
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  • mamarek1mamarek1 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    PVP
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User

    I do not think any of you read the OP. This is not about what you want in the game, it is about what you want future livestreams and Q&As to be to be about. I think the next one should be about powercreep, a new level cap increase, stat caps, things of that nature.

    Yes BUT, many players feel their voice not being heard on these forums. There seems to be little interaction or even acknowledgement from the DEVs that PVP is even something they are aware of or on their radar.

    If PVP becomes a topic on the next Q/A players (like myself) are HOPING this discussion in the Q/A is their thoughts on what they will/can do to address the PVP concerns the community has brought up. Frankly, you cant shy away from the poor state of PVP if PVP is something they will talk about.

    So in a sense, yes, its not "what we want" but it also is "Hey DEVs, this is something we want to have YOU (DEVS) talk about on live stream". Which inevitably will give us answers as to what they think about the state of PVP and what they plan to do (if anything) to fix it.
  • narsil88narsil88 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    PVP
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    kalina311 said:

    PVP Rebirth Russian servers as well dont forget about was your pvp bread and butter income ..


    This honestly blows my mind. We know the Russian servers, specifically the PVP players, USED to be the largest revenue source for this game. Yet its continually neglected? Do you not like sales? It makes no sense... You can say "we gave you GG and BID, and Open world PVP, and SH Siege" but guess what. Each and everytime we got those things, the PVPers (who it was designed for right?) TOLD you guys "no companions" and what happens? Its ruined with companions.... So now, nobody does BID, nobody does Open world PVP, and nobody does Siege. You create these systems for PVPers then ignore PVPer feedback. LOL.

    Overall, the "what did WOW do" post I wrote, would alleviate this and eliminate some of this. Maybe BID can remain the same, but SH Siege... I would make GG/SH/Dom ALL "normalized" stats - just like WOW did. You will see TONS of players flock to those game modes again.
    kalina311 said:


    have the design the new pvp map for foundry contest already...

    +1

    This seems like a no brainer to me. Use Foundry and players to make your PVP content. Its not hard to make a PVP map.
  • joenettlesjoenettles Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 23 Arc User
    Other- Foundry
  • manufracturemanufracture Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    OTHER - LAG issues in single instance areas such as Icewind Pass....it is becoming ridiculous.
  • wylonuswylonus Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,376 Arc User
    just take a look on those who made 1st posts, made me think it might be a single person with multiple accounts voting for pvp, like in Texas, they are arresting hundreds who making illegal multiple votes across the state, in several counties.

    in what catagory for Foundery, so i can vote.
  • kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    wylonus said:

    just take a look on those who made 1st posts, made me think it might be a single person with multiple accounts voting for pvp, like in Texas, they are arresting hundreds who making illegal multiple votes across the state, in several counties.

    in what catagory for Foundery, so i can vote.

    so these people must have forged thousands of other posts then associated with those accounts right and had debates with themselves ?
    conspiracy theory lol
  • nitocris83nitocris83 Member, Cryptic Developer, Administrator Posts: 4,498 Cryptic Developer
    Hi everyone! Just wanted to clarify that this poll is for what Dev topic you would be interested in seeing on a Twitch/FB stream. This would involve having the relevant Developer for that topic do a live Q&A. This poll is not intended to reflect what area of the game you would like to see more work being done on, but simply what area of Neverwinter development you are most interested in learning about. For example, say you really want an update in the Game's PvP aspect but you want to learn more about how classes are balanced or how we design the environment for a dungeon/battle. You would then choose either Systems Design or Environment Art in this poll.

    Hope that helps clarify any confusion!
  • iandarkswordiandarksword Member Posts: 978 Arc User
    I tell you what, I'd be all for having a PvP Map design contest. I think it would bring some authors who have gone M.I.A. back, and I think it would get some PvP folks interested in using the Foundry. That's all best reserved for an entirely different thread though, and the editor would have to be brought back up before it would be a possibility. It's good seeing folks from PvP come out in support of the Foundry as well, thank you.
    We are all important to the future of this game. This thread should not devolve into a competition for votes, but instead it should be a search for answers about the features that definitely need more attention.
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  • kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    On another Positive note it seems like you guys took the feedback from the what new game modes we would like to see in pvp thread (and in pve frankly too )and put them in the new skirmish

    Good job testing out low gravity and high gravity icy and environmental hazards
    these would very very good and fun on dynamic pvp maps as well
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User

    Hi everyone! Just wanted to clarify that this poll is for what Dev topic you would be interested in seeing on a Twitch/FB stream. This would involve having the relevant Developer for that topic do a live Q&A. This poll is not intended to reflect what area of the game you would like to see more work being done on, but simply what area of Neverwinter development you are most interested in learning about. For example, say you really want an update in the Game's PvP aspect but you want to learn more about how classes are balanced or how we design the environment for a dungeon/battle. You would then choose either Systems Design or Environment Art in this poll.

    Hope that helps clarify any confusion!

    Thanks @nitocris83, though this doesnt help. In fact it adds more confusion, atleast for me...

    is the implication here that there are no relevant pvp devs? Which "category" would you say "Item/Gear-balance in PVP" falls under? Or "matchmaking" or "future content"?

    I can safely speak on behalf of the majority of PVPers in this game by saying we want some sort of gear-normalization in PVP. Which area would you classify this as?
  • iandarkswordiandarksword Member Posts: 978 Arc User
    On Julia's note, I guess we're all sort of asking for Systems Design and Environment Art. How they relate to both balance in PvP and Foundry creation and what sort of hurdles the devs have to go through to make them available and functional as well as making combat systems fair and balanced? Confusing? Yes, but it seems that's where we're leaning.
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  • ltgamesttv#0999 ltgamesttv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,438 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    The problem is, as I see it, you could easily discuss any of the poll suggestions without discussing their relation to PVP. This is what I'd be concerned would happen. Each poll selection is vague enough that they could talk about coding any number of elements without giving us any insight on the direction those elements will be taking us in the future, especially in relation to PVP.

    Like foundry creators I think the PVP community feels largely ignored. When we do get attention it's the wrong kind, the kinds we don't want with more broken gear/items/boons. SH siege is a prime example. I'm sure lots of "art" and coding went into creating that map and moba style which now lies completely dormant, a wasteland of resources and creativity. Because our feedback was ignored.

    What we want to ensure is that we get a feel for what devs think about PVP elements and content and where it is likely headed. It's really that important to us in determining what we do with our spare time.
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  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    Most of the PvP stuff would more than likely fall under System Designs. Things like "item/gear-balance in PvP" would totally fall under that category. "Matchmaking" would either fall under that or possibly Engineering? I'm not 100% sure on that one. I'm not sure that they will be answering questions about future content, because a lot of that is under NDA. Please note that this is all my opinion and in no way official, I'm not writing in my moderator Orange.

    I'm not sure exactly what Foundry would fall under, but probably some parts "over all game design", some parts "Engineering"? Maybe some "Production" as well?
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  • jaystrides1jaystrides1 Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    PVP

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  • ltgamesttv#0999 ltgamesttv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,438 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    @kreatyve it's not so much about them breaking NDA. It's about identifying their perspective. You can tell how people feel about topics by what they say and how they say it (or what they don't say for that matter). These streams are the rare chance for players to gain some insight from the devs perspective on different elements of the game.

    It's important that we get to hear about what their thoughts are in relation to PVP. If, for example, the dev/devs chose to briefly touch on PVP and spend most of their time talking about other areas/projects it tells us 2 things:

    1) We didn't glean much from them about what we care about.

    2) They don't find what we care about that high on the priority list.

    Then we make decisions regarding how to spend spare time/money in game.

    *addendum: It's difficult enough for you to find a poll suggestion that fits our interest, that's exactly why we're being specific. The suggestions are too vague to know exactly what fits in which category.
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  • nameexpirednameexpired Member Posts: 1,282 Arc User
    Why is the foundry ... dead?
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  • baronstragenbaronstragen Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    araneax said:

    Foundry.

    New Dungeons.

    New stories.

    Less grind.

    Foundry.

    +1

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  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    edited March 2017

    @kreatyve it's not so much about them breaking NDA. It's about identifying their perspective. You can tell how people feel about topics by what they say and how they say it (or what they don't say for that matter). These streams are the rare chance for players to gain some insight from the devs perspective on different elements of the game.



    It's important that we get to hear about what their thoughts are in relation to PVP. If, for example, the dev/devs chose to briefly touch on PVP and spend most of their time talking about other areas/projects it tells us 2 things:



    1) We didn't glean much from them about what we care about.



    2) They don't find what we care about that high on the priority list.



    Then we make decisions regarding how to spend spare time/money in game.



    *addendum: It's difficult enough for you to find a poll suggestion that fits our interest, that's exactly why we're being specific. The suggestions are too vague to know exactly what fits in which category.

    Well, they also have the issue where if they say that they like an idea, people seem to think that is a promise that the suggestion will make it into the game, and then if something happens where it's just not possible to implement, people get all mad - "well, you promised" - and stuff like that. I do know that they do not wish to kill PvP, and I do know that they have been actively working on ways to improve the PvP experience, however, resources are limited, so things take a long time for changes to take place.
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  • oenoe#3780 oenoe Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    would like to see some guild improvements, make it easier to keep track of who is active and contributing to the guild coffer, and a guild event page where members can accept or decline so you can see how many of each class gonna show up makes it easier to plan DF or dungeons run nights,
  • ltgamesttv#0999 ltgamesttv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,438 Arc User
    @kreatyve I don't disagree with any of that. I don't think we're looking for anything but the actual devs perspective from "the horses mouth", so to speak, on PVP.
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  • biibiisaibiibiisai Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 133 Arc User
    Hasn't been pvping since mod 10. Please consider giving it some love.
  • earlgreybeardearlgreybeard Member Posts: 407 Arc User
    ayroux said:

    So counting ALL the posts and dividing them into TWO camps:
    PVP
    ALL OTHER TOPICS.

    So far, up to this point.

    PVP posts - 52
    ALL OTHER posts - 39
    Seems like PVP is the majority (if you cant tell) of what people want.

    Also interesting to note, the "ALL OTHER" posts section is primarily made up of Foundry Requests.

    Aside from my "Stat Equalization" post on Page 3 - mimicing what WoW has done. I dont understand why we have not utilized Foundry for PVP maps. The solution seems VERY simple here. Create a new "Event": "Make your own PVP map!" You create two QUEs - the normal PVP que and the new "test foundry PVP" Que.

    Players can submit PVP maps, it will que people into said PVP maps, they vote on the map.

    At the END of the event (2-4 weeks) YOU (DEVS/Cryptic) evaluate the top 3 maps, give awards to those creator (titles?) and then do a quick Q/A pass over the #1 map and then throw it into the Domination Mix.

    The community can create the PVP maps. I have played a few foundry maps that were made for the intent of being a "test pvp map" and it was AWESOME. It blows my mind we are not using the creative power of the community....

    Same can be said for dungeons. Run an event. Take the top ranked dungeon. Do a QA Pass through it, and create a new list of "Cryptic Approved" dungeons in the Foundry that have all passed QA and have chests at the end of them - treated like every other dungeon, also with appropriate loot tables.

    Let the community DESIGN, community vote, you (DEVs) can do Quality Control and EVERYONE is happy. We get new content faster and MORE of it. You have less work....

    In that case let people submit different maps in the game for consideration to go into the epic dungeon list.. I have always thought a user created epic clockwork tomb map would be awesome.. interested parties could vote on a list of maps from the old missing dungeons and low level areas and maps and add epic dungeon mobs and bosses.... though user created loot tables would be out of the question I guess :disappointed:

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