Augments are only a little more effective than non, and only at endgame with full BiS. The cost benifit ratios are highly in the favor of non-augments until endgame BiS, when you have nothing left to do but grind for that extra sliver of DPS.
I would be satisfied if we could just bring Sword Coast Adventures back. If that was not one of the items targeted by botters, I do not understand why it cannot be returned....
I would be satisfied if we could just bring Sword Coast Adventures back. If that was not one of the items targeted by botters, I do not understand why it cannot be returned....
yeah i agree, but then their would still be resources used up on gateway. at least we would have a way to get daily dice rolls, loyal gear, damarian shepherd, lightfoot thief, and a great dice game that we all enjoy. then make it compatible with consoles using a phone app or computer or something. botters use the mail system, auction house, and professions tab.
I would be satisfied if we could just bring Sword Coast Adventures back. If that was not one of the items targeted by botters, I do not understand why it cannot be returned....
yeah i agree, but then their would still be resources used up on gateway. at least we would have a way to get daily dice rolls, loyal gear, damarian shepherd, lightfoot thief, and a great dice game that we all enjoy. then make it compatible with consoles using a phone app or computer or something. botters use the mail system, auction house, and professions tab.
I would be satisfied if we could just bring Sword Coast Adventures back. If that was not one of the items targeted by botters, I do not understand why it cannot be returned....
yeah i agree, but then their would still be resources used up on gateway. at least we would have a way to get daily dice rolls, loyal gear, damarian shepherd, lightfoot thief, and a great dice game that we all enjoy. then make it compatible with consoles using a phone app or computer or something. botters use the mail system, auction house, and professions tab.
SCA was also being botted.
explain how? i cant see how it can be botted, if you don't mind filling out my curiosity.
I would be satisfied if we could just bring Sword Coast Adventures back. If that was not one of the items targeted by botters, I do not understand why it cannot be returned....
yeah i agree, but then their would still be resources used up on gateway. at least we would have a way to get daily dice rolls, loyal gear, damarian shepherd, lightfoot thief, and a great dice game that we all enjoy. then make it compatible with consoles using a phone app or computer or something. botters use the mail system, auction house, and professions tab.
SCA was also being botted.
So, instead of actually fighting bots directly, they just cut away any feature, that can be botted? They might have to close down the game next too, since it's being botted 24/7.
Hello army of same looking characters standing around the daily quests NPCs...
Btw. maybe i'm wrong, but i think i can recall a temp. shut down of the Gateway in the past because of bots, and all it did was send even more bots into the game in the end.
So, how are they going to deal with those (new) bots ingame now?
I would be satisfied if we could just bring Sword Coast Adventures back. If that was not one of the items targeted by botters, I do not understand why it cannot be returned....
yeah i agree, but then their would still be resources used up on gateway. at least we would have a way to get daily dice rolls, loyal gear, damarian shepherd, lightfoot thief, and a great dice game that we all enjoy. then make it compatible with consoles using a phone app or computer or something. botters use the mail system, auction house, and professions tab.
SCA was also being botted.
explain how? i cant see how it can be botted, if you don't mind filling out my curiosity.
I would be satisfied if we could just bring Sword Coast Adventures back. If that was not one of the items targeted by botters, I do not understand why it cannot be returned....
yeah i agree, but then their would still be resources used up on gateway. at least we would have a way to get daily dice rolls, loyal gear, damarian shepherd, lightfoot thief, and a great dice game that we all enjoy. then make it compatible with consoles using a phone app or computer or something. botters use the mail system, auction house, and professions tab.
SCA was also being botted.
So, instead of actually fighting bots directly, they just cut away any feature, that can be botted? They might have to close down the game next too, since it's being botted 24/7.
They are doing exactly that bit by bit... They removed old dungeons because... I don't know, people were running through pirate king for "free" GMOP. What was official statement, I forgot, "we want to redesign them" or some stupidity of similar caliber. Yea, they redesigned them into oblivion... So consider this as "redesigned gateway", yea... -.-
I would be satisfied if we could just bring Sword Coast Adventures back. If that was not one of the items targeted by botters, I do not understand why it cannot be returned....
yeah i agree, but then their would still be resources used up on gateway. at least we would have a way to get daily dice rolls, loyal gear, damarian shepherd, lightfoot thief, and a great dice game that we all enjoy. then make it compatible with consoles using a phone app or computer or something. botters use the mail system, auction house, and professions tab.
SCA was also being botted.
explain how? i cant see how it can be botted, if you don't mind filling out my curiosity.
I would be satisfied if we could just bring Sword Coast Adventures back. If that was not one of the items targeted by botters, I do not understand why it cannot be returned....
yeah i agree, but then their would still be resources used up on gateway. at least we would have a way to get daily dice rolls, loyal gear, damarian shepherd, lightfoot thief, and a great dice game that we all enjoy. then make it compatible with consoles using a phone app or computer or something. botters use the mail system, auction house, and professions tab.
SCA was also being botted.
So, instead of actually fighting bots directly, they just cut away any feature, that can be botted? They might have to close down the game next too, since it's being botted 24/7.
They are doing exactly that bit by bit... They removed old dungeons because... I don't know, people were running through pirate king for "free" GMOP. What was official statement, I forgot, "we want to redesign them" or some stupidity of similar caliber. Yea, they redesigned them into oblivion... So consider this as "redesigned gateway", yea... -.-
theirs tons of proof on how botting was happening in professions and in the mail system and also in the auction house. but their was no shred of info on botting with SCA. looked around for a while couldn't find any info. just looking at the ah now and mail system you can clearly see spams or works of botting. instead of using gateway they are in game. the price for some of the mats has gone up, cause botters are less active on professions; cant wait to see whatever prices are gonna rise cause botters are slightly less active for now.
Resources...hmm. What've we got in M10? Yet another farming zone - nothing new in terms of gameplay.
I am not saying it's bad, I am just saying that Resources is a matter of priorities.
Do we want a multidimensional world where different people enjoy things in their diversity or we want to put Resources on ever growing flat structure for perpetual grinding?
If M10 release is at the expense of Gateway in terms od Resources - I don't want it. Take it and give us Gateway back.
... and fire the guy(s) who made the decision to shutdown Gateway - he does not listen to the customers and he is killing the game!!!
It is killing the game for me... I feel much less engaged than I used to.
Buying stuff off the auction house... I used to shop for bargains at different times. It's like I used to have 24 hour internet shopping and now I have restricted Sunday opening hours Maybe that's not "playing" enough for some people, but I enjoyed it and now it's gone.
I'm saving up for a forgehammer of Gond... it takes ages to save a few million AD. I could afford a slightly cheaper one if it was posted, but I might miss it entirely because I can only look and buy it when I'm at my computer.
I'm trying to do masterworks professions. I used to check for those rare tasks and have the ingredients ready to go. Now I can only do that from the computer. It will take me three times as long...
So were they gonna give us a companion or what? I haven't received anything yet...and it was supposed to be this week!
They didn't patch this week. They will be giving it away next time PC is patched.
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Bring back gateway and just turn off the stuff that breaks the game. Keep the dice game but make loyal gear BtA. If you want it, you have to place the dice game to get it. Make the dice game give AD boost as its reward. My toons all have too much but my main never has enough boost. Or make winning the dice game at tier 5 or 6 count as an invoke for the character.
Let me view my inventory and view my character sheet from the gateway.
All these things are simple code changes and while it makes the gateway less useful to us, it would be much less useful to botting.
Sadly the AH and professions access is what made the gateway useful to me. I've tried to use the game to do professions and it just takes time away from playing the game and much to tedious to do. The gateway interface for professions was just better. But at least leave the dice game. It was fun. I'd like to buy some of the dice. So get them 3D printed up and see if they catch on. Those dice and some cards with the challenge would be a nice little game. You'd just have to work out what leveling up the companions would mean in a physical game.
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explain how? i cant see how it can be botted, if you don't mind filling out my curiosity.
I was involved in a discussion around coding a tool to help predict optimal dice use in SCA. The person doing most of the work quickly realized that the project was well on the way to automating an "I win" button and discontinued development, but a less scrupulous individual could have easily come up with a similar program.
It's not really any different than inventing a computer program that can play chess, for example.
explain how? i cant see how it can be botted, if you don't mind filling out my curiosity.
I was involved in a discussion around coding a tool to help predict optimal dice use in SCA. The person doing most of the work quickly realized that the project was well on the way to automating an "I win" button and discontinued development, but a less scrupulous individual could have easily come up with a similar program.
It's not really any different than inventing a computer program that can play chess, for example.
ok, i think i can understand your point. but by what you are saying they were not botting SCA, but their were ideas on it.
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That particular person did not bot SCA, but had been playing around with code that could have developed into an SCA botting tool if continued. And if one person would have been capable of developing it, then others would be able to as well. It's not rocket surgery.
As usual. Bunch of cheaters exploits the game reducing income. They're unable to aim them directly, so let'em punish everyone. Typical for 2nd grade "free-to-play" games publishers . Money changes everything.
Gatewey down for awhile now , server population droped by half while the amount of spam bot sellers in PE bearly took a dent , Sooo,... what was the tinking behind the decision to close gatewey again ? I forgot ....
Get it back up untill u can ofer us an alternative, the companion gear obtainabile from Sword Coast Adventures have a 2 big of role and impact on the game to simply pluck it out !! - after u bought a car and payd for it, the dealer does not come to take out the DVD player 1 year later becose it's absolete !
Gatewey is a product or part of a product that i like many others have payd for !
It is killing the game for me... I feel much less engaged than I used to.
Buying stuff off the auction house... I used to shop for bargains at different times. It's like I used to have 24 hour internet shopping and now I have restricted Sunday opening hours Maybe that's not "playing" enough for some people, but I enjoyed it and now it's gone.
I'm saving up for a forgehammer of Gond... it takes ages to save a few million AD. I could afford a slightly cheaper one if it was posted, but I might miss it entirely because I can only look and buy it when I'm at my computer.
I'm trying to do masterworks professions. I used to check for those rare tasks and have the ingredients ready to go. Now I can only do that from the computer. It will take me three times as long...
Booo
ive gotta log in every 2 hours through a laggier character select screen in order to reset masterwork professions... it's not pleasant.
If you guys think they are still reading this or are taking any of these ideas into consideration, you are wrong.
Their trump card will always be....we know more than you, we know what is best for you, you will just have to deal with our decisions.
This is the only game I've ever played that has removed major portions of content and asked the players to just accept it. Now they have brougt back one of the worst things from mod 3 and want us to trust them that its fun to spend hours collecting relics.
As usual. Bunch of cheaters exploits the game reducing income. They're unable to aim them directly, so let'em punish everyone. Typical for 2nd grade "free-to-play" games publishers . Money changes everything.
C.R.E.A.M. baby... Cash Rules Everything Around Me
Doubt people were botting SCA. The market did not indicate botting at all, the prices remained pretty steady and at times there could be just a few of an item.
So basically I kept a pretty close eye on the price and availability of Lightfoot Thieves. For a lot of the game's life there were between 0-2 on the AH. They were priced at around 10m AD when they were up there, and usually sold or got taken off pretty quickly (probably sold as posting fees were high back then). One week there were around 15 on the AH, and prices dropped down below 1m AD. Either a lot of people suddenly started playing SCA, they increased the drop rates, or bots got in there. The game is beyond easy for a toon with 4 balanced purple companions, so I don't see why it can't be the latter.
Gateway is down for good so can i ASK why your servers are STILL as HAMSTER poor as they were before?
This mention of gateway impacting live servers? yeah right...... no lag at all today go to SH and People from ALL over europe in different areas are all getting it....
how about mimicking uses that $10 to plan for a new server?
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botters use the mail system, auction house, and professions tab.
They might have to close down the game next too, since it's being botted 24/7.
Hello army of same looking characters standing around the daily quests NPCs...
Btw. maybe i'm wrong, but i think i can recall a temp. shut down of the Gateway in the past because of bots, and all it did was send even more bots into the game in the end.
So, how are they going to deal with those (new) bots ingame now?
What've we got in M10? Yet another farming zone - nothing new in terms of gameplay.
I am not saying it's bad, I am just saying that Resources is a matter of priorities.
Do we want a multidimensional world where different people enjoy things in their diversity or we want to put Resources on ever growing flat structure for perpetual grinding?
If M10 release is at the expense of Gateway in terms od Resources - I don't want it. Take it and give us Gateway back.
... and fire the guy(s) who made the decision to shutdown Gateway - he does not listen to the customers and he is killing the game!!!
Buying stuff off the auction house... I used to shop for bargains at different times. It's like I used to have 24 hour internet shopping and now I have restricted Sunday opening hours
I'm saving up for a forgehammer of Gond... it takes ages to save a few million AD. I could afford a slightly cheaper one if it was posted, but I might miss it entirely because I can only look and buy it when I'm at my computer.
I'm trying to do masterworks professions. I used to check for those rare tasks and have the ingredients ready to go. Now I can only do that from the computer. It will take me three times as long...
Booo
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Let me view my inventory and view my character sheet from the gateway.
All these things are simple code changes and while it makes the gateway less useful to us, it would be much less useful to botting.
Sadly the AH and professions access is what made the gateway useful to me. I've tried to use the game to do professions and it just takes time away from playing the game and much to tedious to do. The gateway interface for professions was just better. But at least leave the dice game. It was fun. I'd like to buy some of the dice. So get them 3D printed up and see if they catch on. Those dice and some cards with the challenge would be a nice little game. You'd just have to work out what leveling up the companions would mean in a physical game.
It's not really any different than inventing a computer program that can play chess, for example.
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Sooo,... what was the tinking behind the decision to close gatewey again ? I forgot ....
Get it back up untill u can ofer us an alternative, the companion gear obtainabile from Sword Coast Adventures have a 2 big of role and impact on the game to simply pluck it out !!
- after u bought a car and payd for it, the dealer does not come to take out the DVD player 1 year later becose it's absolete !
Gatewey is a product or part of a product that i like many others have payd for !
this is me asking !
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Their trump card will always be....we know more than you, we know what is best for you, you will just have to deal with our decisions.
This is the only game I've ever played that has removed major portions of content and asked the players to just accept it. Now they have brougt back one of the worst things from mod 3 and want us to trust them that its fun to spend hours collecting relics.
Im sorry....they no longer care what we think.
This mention of gateway impacting live servers? yeah right...... no lag at all today go to SH and People from ALL over europe in different areas are all getting it....
how about mimicking uses that $10 to plan for a new server?