i will explain it to you, please watch the video closely ***Youtube Link*** the player that it's tanking ORCUS is none other than a COMPANION, its GREAT YOUNG YETIi!?!?
...And you conveniently forgot to mention how in parts 2 and 3 of that video, the GWF is using a Shadow Demon pet and tanking 100% from those bosses no problem. LOL Shameless spin-doctoring here. You guys got PhDs in this? Probably not or you could properly discuss things without petty flaming, which you all are failing at miserably. Here is a helpful reminder to refresh your memory about the epic awsomeness of the most broken and OP class in Neverwinter.
Beholder-tanks boss. No Yeti. Not even 2 minutes and the boss is dead! Come on with the Need more DPS and Tank argument already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY-HCQsxrUI
Seriously, what other requirements shown in the above videos do you need to believe the GWF is the most overpowered class in this game? Why the Temp HP nerf? Because the dev already know how OP the GWF is and probably (and if they're smart, certainly) have more coming to make other DPS classes useful again.
The only people really believing (more like high-pressure selling) this junk-propaganda is other GWFs. That's a fact here. It's GWFs agreeing with other GWFs and flaming all other opinions. Open debate is not welcome here! You 3 kill it on-contact. It's flamebait, troll-food with a side order or BUFF ME, NERF THEM. Pitiful.
how come that orcus is the standard level that any "tank" path should be able to tank?
Because for some reason, being able to tank absolutely everything in the game with no other support from other players or companions seems to be their definition of "sub tank".
the fact that all other Tank classes that are tank built and near BIS struggle with Orcus (unless it is the GF with steel defence), seems to be irrelevant or conveniently ignored
- actually that's probably because this is about PvP and GWF's Vs GF's - I don't think this thread is really about PvE
I would say they are using sleight of hand to try and fool us, but getting smashed over the head with the same irrelevant arguments isn't sleight of hand, its called bludgeoning into submission
@deathbeez - We shouldn't lump all the GWF's in with the three amigo's, most if not all of the other GWF's have been reasonable and rational. I made some perhaps poorly phrased (and to be honest light hearted) generalisations because of hastily scribed posts, which really only relate to 1-3 posters. Apologies to the other GWF's out there.
Maybe they should give the GWF a "blocking or shield ability", it can use it's overly large sword to block (say 50% of damage), it trades that for the sprint function and also for a significant decrease in DPS. It has a marking and taunting ability, throw in some team buffing. That would make it akin to the other tanks out there, a little less effective but with more DPS. But that involves compromise . . . .
and really, this thread is just as much about GF's it appears. Looks like they have run out of GF vids to post and now want it closed. Fair enough, it has added little value to the community except for comedic value
. . . . this is where @metalldjt & @clonkyo1 to go dig up some more irrelevant vids from youtube with GF's in them to try and prove my previous statement wrong in an almost completely irrelevant side topic (unless GF's are the topic of this thread) and then latch onto that, like a pitbull, for another 3 pages of posts (like it is actually significant to the discussion at hand)
...And you conveniently forgot to mention how in parts 2 and 3 of that video, the GWF is using a Shadow Demon pet and tanking 100% from those bosses no problem.
And what exacly is doing Lazalia here that you think other players or classes can't do? He's just staying out of red areas. The very basic concept of any Boss fight in MMOs. You can do that with any class in the game. I fail to see your point.
you sir, are mostly a troll, either that or the difference in our languages prevents you from understanding what I am trying to get at and vice versa
regarding who started the bashing . . . its impossible to check now because your earlier posts have been deleted
I find it ironic that you started a thread titled "about healthy threads", yet the only time I have been warned by Mods, is for quoting one of your "troll" posts
Since this thread seems to be irrelevant, may I just throw in: the warlock community is waiting for some "major" rework since ages OK, now please close this
Ok I get it.. lets buff GWF so they could be on top by dmg output, have same survivability as tank. > then what the heck bother with tanks, other classes, lets focus game around gwf huh? I have seen plenty of GWF who even with not top end gear fight, don't die and don't cry/complain. While also I have been in party with players which can call d13k, he stand in one place and keep smashing encounters and do not try avoid incoming hits. he eat all hits, got killed, than latter complains that GWF need buffs...
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Here is a helpful reminder to refresh your memory about the epic awsomeness of the most broken and OP class in Neverwinter.
Illithilich-tanks boss. No Yeti. 4.4 minutes no less.
Yeah, GWF DPS is sooo awful...OMG. Lets make 9 more whine threads.
Beholder-tanks boss. No Yeti. Not even 2 minutes and the boss is dead!
Come on with the Need more DPS and Tank argument already.
Seriously, what other requirements shown in the above videos do you need to believe the GWF is the most overpowered class in this game?
Why the Temp HP nerf? Because the dev already know how OP the GWF is and probably (and if they're smart, certainly) have more coming to make other DPS classes useful again.
The only people really believing (more like high-pressure selling) this junk-propaganda is other GWFs. That's a fact here.
It's GWFs agreeing with other GWFs and flaming all other opinions.
Open debate is not welcome here! You 3 kill it on-contact. It's flamebait, troll-food with a side order or BUFF ME, NERF THEM.
Pitiful.
the fact that all other Tank classes that are tank built and near BIS struggle with Orcus (unless it is the GF with steel defence), seems to be irrelevant or conveniently ignored
- actually that's probably because this is about PvP and GWF's Vs GF's - I don't think this thread is really about PvE
I would say they are using sleight of hand to try and fool us, but getting smashed over the head with the same irrelevant arguments isn't sleight of hand, its called bludgeoning into submission
@deathbeez - We shouldn't lump all the GWF's in with the three amigo's, most if not all of the other GWF's have been reasonable and rational. I made some perhaps poorly phrased (and to be honest light hearted) generalisations because of hastily scribed posts, which really only relate to 1-3 posters. Apologies to the other GWF's out there.
Maybe they should give the GWF a "blocking or shield ability", it can use it's overly large sword to block (say 50% of damage), it trades that for the sprint function and also for a significant decrease in DPS. It has a marking and taunting ability, throw in some team buffing. That would make it akin to the other tanks out there, a little less effective but with more DPS. But that involves compromise . . . .
and really, this thread is just as much about GF's it appears. Looks like they have run out of GF vids to post and now want it closed. Fair enough, it has added little value to the community except for comedic value
. . . . this is where @metalldjt & @clonkyo1 to go dig up some more irrelevant vids from youtube with GF's in them to try and prove my previous statement wrong in an almost completely irrelevant side topic (unless GF's are the topic of this thread) and then latch onto that, like a pitbull, for another 3 pages of posts (like it is actually significant to the discussion at hand)
good day to you too
you sir, are mostly a troll, either that or the difference in our languages prevents you from understanding what I am trying to get at and vice versa
regarding who started the bashing . . . its impossible to check now because your earlier posts have been deleted
I find it ironic that you started a thread titled "about healthy threads", yet the only time I have been warned by Mods, is for quoting one of your "troll" posts
regardless, a good day to you as well
OK, now please close this
I have seen plenty of GWF who even with not top end gear fight, don't die and don't cry/complain. While also I have been in party with players which can call d13k, he stand in one place and keep smashing encounters and do not try avoid incoming hits. he eat all hits, got killed, than latter complains that GWF need buffs...
Also
“The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
Gustave Le Bon.
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