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  • icyphishicyphish Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,255 Arc User
    Be a man and get 5/5 for both Exec style and RBF! Only scrubs needs scattered scars!


    Ps: I am a scrub :D
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    Author of GWF Speed Demon PvP Build (Mod 11) <- Click to reveal the Speedy Beast! >:)
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  • xgrandz02xgrandz02 Member Posts: 702 Arc User
    edited March 2016

    I am GWF with BiS gears ..^

    really ? is this ur argument just because ur BIS, there's no change needed lol,
    of course not for You! cuz you already reached everything what u need,.
    but not everyone is like you..sitting with all max stuffs/gears,

    if you want a challenge then play without R12/trans,
    your opinion doesn't count at this point.
    <::::::[]==0 GwF 0==[]::::::> ● Still waiting for the promised Improvement ●
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  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User

    Most run IV but some run SM in PVP. Relentless battle fury is nice for runner builds.
    My CD from battlefury is 18 seconds, having 8 seconds uptime. I use it in PVE because it buffs my at wills for 1,2 multiplier, but I did not invest in it, but my former PVP build was like that.
    PVE I go: DS+(WMS)+dagger+ BF ...determination refilled-->unstoppable SS-SS-SS or WMS-WMS-WMS
    The 10 seconds without buff is mostly covered with rebuffing -->DS, WMS, dagger, BF
    Excutioners style is 30% damagebuff to Sure strike, so in the sum you lose that multiplier by investing in relenteless BF.
    In case you do run DS+Dagger+IBS/RS in PVP it´s completely wasted and doesn´t help much.
    It´s the decision between runner build or not imo.

    you can make build with both but it will not include the countless scars.
  • icyphishicyphish Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,255 Arc User
    Hmm... lets go back to the topic and talk about GF Bursts as a Defender role maybe...?
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  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/541660/tyranny-of-dragons-preview-patch-notes-nw-25-20140721a-3/p1

    Into the Fray: Now grants 25% of your your Damage Resist as bonus damage at base (down from 50%). It still grants +25% per rank.

    1.if i remember well back to module 4 we didnt have 120k+ hp .
    2. into the fray is the same since m4. knight challenge ( now it gives and 50% resist for 3 seconds)-anvil also the same.
    3. Great Weapon Fighter
    Mark: Now properly provides 20% increased damage on the target for the Great Weapon Fighter.
    4.Mark: Now properly provides 20% increased damage on the target for the Guardian Fighter.

    from mod 4 until mod 7 i didnt see a nerf gf burst damage thread why ? NOT even when got +20% weapon damage boost at mod 6 noone said something indeed i remember comments and from players who didnt play gf: finaly gf useful in pvp.
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  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User

    .

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/541660/tyranny-of-dragons-preview-patch-notes-nw-25-20140721a-3/p1

    Into the Fray: Now grants 25% of your your Damage Resist as bonus damage at base (down from 50%). It still grants +25% per rank.

    1.if i remember well back to module 4 we didnt have 120k+ hp .
    2. into the fray is the same since m4. knight challenge ( now it gives and 50% resist for 3 seconds)-anvil also the same.
    3. Great Weapon Fighter
    Mark: Now properly provides 20% increased damage on the target for the Great Weapon Fighter.
    4.Mark: Now properly provides 20% increased damage on the target for the Guardian Fighter.

    from mod 4 until mod 7 i didnt see a nerf gf burst damage thread why ? NOT even when got +20% weapon damage boost at mod 6 noone said something indeed i remember comments and from players who didnt play gf: finaly gf useful in pvp.

    Mod 6 patch, you forgot this-Guardian Fighter ◦Damage Output
    •Weapon damage increased across the board. Average increase of roughly 50%.

    It was way too much for a tank class.
    then they need decrease the weapon damage by 20% i took a look on other classes weapon damage gf coming second( first coming gwf) then yes for defender is not normal.
  • hypervoreianhypervoreian Member Posts: 1,036 Arc User
    i don't participate anymore in this nerf fest,since my favored class dodged the nerfhammer for at least another two mods.But i pass from now and then to have aa good laugh at the arguments of these guys.

    mamalion you believe these guys?You take them seriously?

    Weapon damage in mod6 release increased for all classes.I know that these people will deny this ,but i can prove this.
    And then shove them in the face.
    i am waiting for their pitty excuses or for their stubborn denials.

    So ,nerfers only Gf weapon damage increased in mod6 huh??
    GWf ,CW weapon damage did not increased?Are you sure?

    ROLFMAO
  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User

    i don't participate anymore in this nerf fest,since my favored class dodged the nerfhammer for at least another two mods.But i pass from now and then to have aa good laugh at the arguments of these guys.

    mamalion you believe these guys?You take them seriously?

    Weapon damage in mod6 release increased for all classes.I know that these people will deny this ,but i can prove this.
    And then shove them in the face.
    i am waiting for their pitty excuses or for their stubborn denials.

    So ,nerfers only Gf weapon damage increased in mod6 huh??
    GWf ,CW weapon damage did not increased?Are you sure?

    ROLFMAO

    that page proves that gf weapon damage was weaker than cw-hr-sw- etc as a defender class. watch the 60 versions.
    then watch the 70 versions (twisted-stronghold-and element weapons) and you will see their weapon damage IS the 2nd best after GWF. it SHOULD be same as the paladin class.
  • hypervoreianhypervoreian Member Posts: 1,036 Arc User
    mamalion i will write the numbers now cause later i cannot,the maze mod will adjust the old level 60 weapons :P .The nerfers were lucky :/, i will miss their denials and excuses.

    let's go,numbers pre mod6 and after.
    Pre Mod6 After mod6
    TR: 263-322 529-647
    SW: 439-536 882-1079
    HR: 457-559 1099-1344
    274-335 556-680
    CW: 439-536 882-1079
    GWF: 632-772 1271-1554
    DC: 439-536 882-1079
    GF: 526-664 1059-1295


  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    I realy do understand why Hyper is protecting his -->tank<-- ...the reason is obvious and you can experience it meeting him in DOM
  • hypervoreianhypervoreian Member Posts: 1,036 Arc User
    As a side note mamalion,cause i see you are a honest guy that cares for balance and searches things:

    I have a question,if you can answer me;

    If Hadar's Grasp c duration is halved in pvp- as all powers of all classes do- and how much lasts in a non p/t elven wearing ,toon.Thanks :)
    (Hint:more than 5 seconds )

  • hypervoreianhypervoreian Member Posts: 1,036 Arc User
    edited March 2016

    I realy do understand why Hyper is protecting his -->tank<-- ...the reason is obvious and you can experience it meeting him in DOM</p>

    So...tell us..was only Gf weapon buffed?Like you claimed?
    And if your hadar's grasp is halved in pvp like all classes cc powers do.

    Lol.I will be here Quallo when Sw "buff" thread opens and to be sure you it not go in your way.
    I am back to real game, :) my class dodged the nerfhammer for mod9 and probably mod10,since the new class then will be focused.
    I will leave you here all nerfers alone to boil in your blood from rage as lobsters in a chinese restaurant. ;P Adios!!!

    ha ha \o/ \o/

    A small player community and even less in forums and outwitted you for months.

    Thanks from my heart to the courageous GF players that outwitted you for months.

    CASE IS CLOSED.GFs according to devs stay as they are.

    GFs WILL RULE FOREVER!!! \o/ :):)

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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    Since PVE in NWO is pure fun, killing endcontent in 10 seconds, no heals needed we go full dps...lol
    If that´s your definition fun PVE you are lost
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