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So, any of you NOT use the stam/AP drain enchants?

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  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    Using ward overloads is a must and The biggest problem is that many pugs cant get them ... So they are just devastated...
  • xgrandz02xgrandz02 Member Posts: 702 Arc User
    -Make stam/AP drain Enchants just Usable on SH-PvP, Not Domination-
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  • dersidiusdersidius Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    xgrandz02 said:

    -Make stam/AP drain Enchants just Usable on SH-PvP, Not Domination-

    Viable solution, might be tricky to program properly given it's sloted in an item.

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  • mantera47mantera47 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 70 Arc User
    dersidius said:

    xgrandz02 said:

    -Make stam/AP drain Enchants just Usable on SH-PvP, Not Domination-

    Viable solution, might be tricky to program properly given it's sloted in an item.
    With some luck, maybe they'll break it entirely trying to add the extra code and it won't work at all. :)
  • lonewolfmk1lonewolfmk1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 137 Arc User
    As a GF who has been playing this game since the beginning i can say that the drain marks are the most idiotic and pvp breaking item since the red and blue dragon enchants, when they where bugged...

    Before those enchants i had a GF (close to BIS) build for deff and support, who could tank pretty much anyone one on one for a long time. Now i just get destroyed in seconds when my shield gets drained away within seconds. And the stronghold boons (which is a problem of its own) make the problem even worse, making a mockery out of pvp if you are not in one of the big guilds.

    If you really want to keep those enchants in the game, give them a 1-2 sec cooldown (and kick Stronghold boons out of pvp all together or divide them by 10).
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited November 2015

    As a GF who has been playing this game since the beginning i can say that the drain marks are the most idiotic and pvp breaking item since the red and blue dragon enchants, when they where bugged...

    sure about that? :smile:
    Stamina wards do antagonise the draining glyphs very well so there is a cure
    and stamina is more important than AP imo, AP kills this game in some aspects

    I think something more idiotic is the following:
    just think about PVP between a fraction of pugs without a well build stronghold and a PVP guild with maxed Stronghold
    8000 Defence+ thats about 23% DR on top
    8000 Lifesteal + thats huge
    etc.

    this will seperate the PVP community completely and is no good movement to equalize the huge existing Geargap
    not to speak about 4000k arp from axebeak thats 35% RI depending on the ammount of arp you got
    digging the grave, diggin it deaper....
    this will drive away even more ppl from PVP, except some maxed chars who will get even more bored as they are atm

    my hitlist atm is:
    1. SH PVP Boons 8k defence !!! (about 18 rank 10th on top...big lol)
    2. mounts with 4k stats !! (about 9 rank 10th on top.... lol)
    3. drainig glyphs ! (smaller lol)
  • lonewolfmk1lonewolfmk1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 137 Arc User
    True, the Stronghold boons will basically kill pvp for PUGS or members of smaller guilds (like me). And the stamina wards (at least as far as i have heard) protect you only from 10% of the stamina drain, which basically amounts to nothing. And you need a market rank 4 to buy them anyway. My guilds Stronghold is at rank 5, it will take months to even get close to a Rank 4 market.

    The whole Stronghold concept could have been cool, but as it stands now it just gives ridicoulus boni to guilds that already have the best equipped players anyway.
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User

    True, the Stronghold boons will basically kill pvp for PUGS or members of smaller guilds (like me). And the stamina wards (at least as far as i have heard) protect you only from 10% of the stamina drain, which basically amounts to nothing. And you need a market rank 4 to buy them anyway. My guilds Stronghold is at rank 5, it will take months to even get close to a Rank 4 market.

    The whole Stronghold concept could have been cool, but as it stands now it just gives ridicoulus boni to guilds that already have the best equipped players anyway.

    the wards protect very good against stamina drain, think they negate it more or less
    Stronghold is not the best concept to raise the population in a game where the playerbase fades away.
    A two class system in a game like this is more or less a misconcept.
  • azuosed89azuosed89 Member Posts: 565 Arc User
    question from a xbox newbie in SH. if you run two stamina drain, do their effect stack?
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  • vinceent1vinceent1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    azuosed89 said:

    question from a xbox newbie in SH. if you run two stamina drain, do their effect stack?

    dont be jerk, dont use them is the answer

  • azuosed89azuosed89 Member Posts: 565 Arc User
    vinceent1 said:

    azuosed89 said:

    question from a xbox newbie in SH. if you run two stamina drain, do their effect stack?

    dont be jerk, dont use them is the answer

    yeah, until my enemy use. you didn't answer my question though.
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Typical Xbox player
    All I read from that side of the game are threads like this:
    "What is gonna be the cookie cutter build for next mod? Please only answeres from pros."

    Yes they gonna stack and in case you fill every single space in your bags with them, they will also stack
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    azuosed89 said:

    question from a xbox newbie in SH. if you run two stamina drain, do their effect stack?

    Grow some balls and don't use them, instead of coming here asking for some cheesy and lame way to win.

    AP-drain, use the wards.
    Stamina -drain: use the ward and when players detect (can inspect) a stamina drain user, focus him and prevent him from attacking or even enjoy PvP.

    Or keep a drain ready in inventory and specifically load it to counter another drain user if you're in GG or Domination.

    I'm not sure if wards still protect you from the whole effect, but i think it's not just 10% of it since it's quite noticeable when you face a stamina drain user with or without a ward.

    BTW, stamina wards should nullify drain, just like the AP ones.

    However: Stamina drain is lame, outside of premades any respectable PvPer should not use them.
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