Rumor mill of the game

gomok72

I just wanted to clear up somethings about rumors of things to come in the game that are true or not, I'll scratch off the ones that came or are coming to fruition within the game.

Warlocks are getting a buff: Confirmed by developers
Raw stat enchants will get 100 more stats added to the 700 giving it a total value of 800: Unconfirmed.
Fey touch is getting nerfed: Unconfirmed
Barkshield is getting buffed: Unconfirmed
Negation is getting nerfed: Unconfirmed
Rogues are getting nerfed: Unconfirmed
Companions won't be used in SH PvP: Confirmed by developers.
Players will have the opportunity to upgrade mounts to mythic with bonus, later on: Unconfirmed
New class coming to game: Confirmed by developers.
Crafting will have a new way to make vanity wears: Unconfirmed
All enchants, will have another once over: unconfirmed.
Tiamat will be a map choice within foundry making: Unconfirmed

These are some of the things I have been reading within the game and wanted to see what has everyone else heard?

Not sure if this is right place to put this topic, but it's a start.

clericalist

Any rumours to the following ?
Dungeons coming back.
Fix lag issues.
Fix class feats/encounters that don't work as stated.
Make the game of less off a gambling and grinding simulator.
Fix overpowered Lostmauth set.
Fix design rules that break the rules that developers themselves have declared (like Paladins that are 100% immune to damage 100% of the time for example).

zacazu

"Warlocks are getting a buff: Confirmed by developers
Rogues are getting nerfed: Unconfirmed
New class coming to game: Confirmed by developers."

why i feel a cold wind reading that?

romotheone

GWF is getting nerfed: Confirmed

zacazu

... will be a stupid decision like so many others. i can not do nothing about that.

a scenario which a melee class without dodge have the biggest damage, rogues be a dps more "reliable" and the main controller was the ranger/trapper - that is, a controller with very moderate damage - was the closest to equilibrium, valuing all functions, including defenders, something unprecedented in the history of the game.

but they confirm some buff (the problem is not the buff, but the scale) for a range caster in the same time then will nerf that melee w/o dodge and the confiable rogues AND BRING A NEW CONTROLLER (new, you know=god)... hmmm. but you will have your "revenge".

regenerde

I believe that SW will receive a buff, when it actually happens as a patch to the live server.
But until then, i believe nothing they say or write.

There was also the "promise", that the Devs will handle life steal different or "special" for SW... and now take a look at how that did turn out.

romotheone

@zacazu what revenge? I'm not the one nerfing your class, the developers think that the GWF is op and needs to be nerfed. I'm just happy that other classes have a chance in dungeons as well. GWFs are pretty dominant and faceroll every content.

regenerde

I still hope, that the Devs will at first fix all the broken artifacts, enchantments, equipment and even powers... before they start messing around with classes.

zacazu

romotheone said:

@zacazu what revenge? I'm not the one nerfing your class, the developers think that the GWF is op and needs to be nerfed. I'm just happy that other classes have a chance in dungeons as well. GWFs are pretty dominant and faceroll every content.

good arguments, bad arguments, hyperbole, euphemism, hoax, pure dishonesty... nothing that matter for me today.

ignoring you for now:

iam not sure if the devs will do something for rogues , or how much they will buff sws - buff and fix the sets? create some restrictive mechanic? - or how strong will be a new class. they just have one lesson to finally learn:

a "super class" - ignoring... you know - is aways a class that, instead to be optimizaded for a demand "x", are overnerfed and then overbuffed.

santralafax

romotheone said:

@zacazu what revenge? I'm not the one nerfing your class, the developers think that the GWF is op and needs to be nerfed. I'm just happy that other classes have a chance in dungeons as well. GWFs are pretty dominant and faceroll every content.

I just switched to GWF from GF. I never saw the GWF as overpowered. Paladins, stealth TRs and CW w/shield on tab were my primary gripes. Where is the confirmation of the nerf?

romotheone

santralafax said:

romotheone said:

@zacazu what revenge? I'm not the one nerfing your class, the developers think that the GWF is op and needs to be nerfed. I'm just happy that other classes have a chance in dungeons as well. GWFs are pretty dominant and faceroll every content.

I just switched to GWF from GF. I never saw the GWF as overpowered. Paladins, stealth TRs and CW w/shield on tab were my primary gripes. Where is the confirmation of the nerf?

You are mistaking PvE for PvP. The confirmation for the nerf is in the VOD of Strongholds stream. Towards the end, when the questions come in, the executive producer acknowledges GWFs as overpowered.

santralafax

romotheone said:

You are mistaking PvE for PvP. The confirmation for the nerf is in the VOD of Strongholds stream. Towards the end, when the questions come in, the executive producer acknowledges GWFs as overpowered.

Not sure what the "VOD of Strongholds stream" is. Was anything said about Paladins? They were the primary reason I switched classes. Both PVE and PVP. In PVP they are immune from damage, in PVE they can heal a team while tanking with a 360 degree shield that's immune from damage. Jeezus.

gomok72

magenubbie said:

If you want to bust rumors, at least post a link proving something. To me there's nothing useful in this thread so far.

Read the post and if it's not useful, move along.

I said there are rumors "Within the game" not linked, comprehension is a God send.

Getting back on topic guys,

I just wanted to start a thread in regards to what have you heard about changes from individuals within the game itself, rather it be your guild mates, people you have grouped with, etc.

two30

If you say "Valindra, Valindra, Valindra" while standing in front of your Stronghold's mimic, she appears, steals all your Influence then randomizes your Shards of Power. If you don't have any Influence, she deletes your guild.

juleadream

santralafax said:

romotheone said:

You are mistaking PvE for PvP. The confirmation for the nerf is in the VOD of Strongholds stream. Towards the end, when the questions come in, the executive producer acknowledges GWFs as overpowered.

Not sure what the "VOD of Strongholds stream" is. Was anything said about Paladins? They were the primary reason I switched classes. Both PVE and PVP. In PVP they are immune from damage, in PVE they can heal a team while tanking with a 360 degree shield that's immune from damage. Jeezus.

Not sure where you get the idea that Sanctuary makes a paladin immune to damage. For Oath of Protection OPs, Sanctuary provides rapid healing for anyone within the circle, 60% damage resistance for the Paladin and 30% damage resistance for allies in the circle. Now, if a paladin has an extremely high DR to begin with, then, yes, Sanctuary can boost their overall DR up to nearly immune levels, but OPs do not gain damage immunity simply from raising the shield.

santralafax

juleadream said:

Not sure where you get the idea that Sanctuary makes a paladin immune to damage. For Oath of Protection OPs, Sanctuary provides rapid healing for anyone within the circle, 60% damage resistance for the Paladin and 30% damage resistance for allies in the circle. Now, if a paladin has an extremely high DR to begin with, then, yes, Sanctuary can boost their overall DR up to nearly immune levels, but OPs do not gain damage immunity simply from raising the shield.

I may not be correct in saying "immune" and I've never run a dungeon with one as a GF. But have you played any PVP with yours? Paladins walk nodes virtually immune to anything. Their low damage will eventually take you down because they stay alive on temporary hit points that constantly refresh.

halaszsandor

Warlocks are getting a nerf: unconfirmed
Let me play!

halaszsandor

regenerde said:

I believe that SW will receive a buff, when it actually happens as a patch to the live server.
But until then, i believe nothing they say or write.

There was also the "promise", that the Devs will handle life steal different or "special" for SW... and now take a look at how that did turn out.

Instead there's a pro tip!
Level 20% lifesteal building!

regenerde

halaszsandor said:

regenerde said:

I believe that SW will receive a buff, when it actually happens as a patch to the live server.
But until then, i believe nothing they say or write.

There was also the "promise", that the Devs will handle life steal different or "special" for SW... and now take a look at how that did turn out.

Instead there's a pro tip!
Level 20% lifesteal building!

And you're going to donate all the resources needed to build that Stronghold structure to me?
Great.
Let's do this!

drkbodhi

It better not be an across the board nerf to TRs... there is only one OP build there.​​

ogarious

xsayajinx1 said:

GWF nerf coming? Oh my god, I just had geared mine decently.



Time to switch main again ...

And that is why they keep doing this. Not in any attempt to balance the game, but for the sole purpose of trying to get people to spend more money to counteract the changes made. I am all about turning a profit, and I don't begrudge Cryptic that, but the underhanded way they keep doing it in Neverwinter, and now to a lesser extent in STO. Really troubles me.

ibarenas

As a SW player its nice to hear that we are getting some buffs. Also i like to play pvp but sometimes its discouraging to get killed by a a TR that you can never see or hit while trying to capture a tower. Even if i hate TRs i dont think they should be nerfed, just give us the chnace to actually see them. How you can do this? devs are trying to make pvp like moba so... just do it like in dota and give the towers under the majority of your control TRUE SIGHT. This way TRs can still kill you perma stealth while you move around the map and camp towers they already own but if you are guarding or getting a tower you can actually see them and can do something.

ogarious

ibarenas said:

As a SW player its nice to hear that we are getting some buffs. Also i like to play pvp but sometimes its discouraging to get killed by a a TR that you can never see or hit while trying to capture a tower. Even if i hate TRs i dont think they should be nerfed, just give us the chnace to actually see them. How you can do this? devs are trying to make pvp like moba so... just do it like in dota and give the towers under the majority of your control TRUE SIGHT. This way TRs can still kill you perma stealth while you move around the map and camp towers they already own but if you are guarding or getting a tower you can actually see them and can do something.

The SW has been my main since it came out, before that the CW was my main. I wouldn't hold my breath on those buffs if I were you.

ibarenas

ogarious said:

ibarenas said:

As a SW player its nice to hear that we are getting some buffs. Also i like to play pvp but sometimes its discouraging to get killed by a a TR that you can never see or hit while trying to capture a tower. Even if i hate TRs i dont think they should be nerfed, just give us the chnace to actually see them. How you can do this? devs are trying to make pvp like moba so... just do it like in dota and give the towers under the majority of your control TRUE SIGHT. This way TRs can still kill you perma stealth while you move around the map and camp towers they already own but if you are guarding or getting a tower you can actually see them and can do something.

The SW has been my main since it came out, before that the CW was my main. I wouldn't hold my breath on those buffs if I were you.

i told you i was a sw player so i expect nothing from devs xD

ogarious

But we persist anyways....Don't we. Hoping against hope that one day we will get what we are due.

halaszsandor

regenerde said:

And you're going to donate all the resources needed to build that Stronghold structure to me?
Great.
Let's do this!

Of course not but let's work a bit before we run to forums and complain...

Sw can have some buff for pvp but its imbalanced for pve, doing 2* dmg as other dps classes and needs a nerf!

regenerde

halaszsandor said:

regenerde said:

And you're going to donate all the resources needed to build that Stronghold structure to me?
Great.
Let's do this!

Of course not but let's work a bit before we run to forums and complain...

Sw can have some buff for pvp but its imbalanced for pve, doing 2* dmg as other dps classes and needs a nerf!

Ok, let's do the work, i get the guild and you the resources to get that building up and running.
I'd say that's a fair deal.

Or can you show another class, that also needs a Stronghold structure for boons, before they can continue to play in a somehow usefull manner again?

There is somewhere a picture of a GWF character sheet flying around in the forum, the stats are way beyond good and evil, and based on some mixture of buffs from other classes and some other bugged HAMSTER...
We should base the nerf for GWF exactly on those numbers!

That is a splendid idea, let's base all nerfs on some bugged HAMSTER!

commanderdata002

clonkyo1 said:

Another nerf for GWF class?? From useless to more useless than useless. Nice to know.

dude! It was way overbuffed in mod6!

robarum

GWF OP? o.O Ridiculous. This class is only a newbie killer in pvp and that's it - when you learn your class and get a pvp gear (about 2,4k IL +) gwf can't touch you. This class is almost at the same lvl like SW - both have no dodge. On IL 2,5k+ classes like TR, CW, GF, HR with proper pvp build and gear are beyond gwf reach, if they know their classes you won't kill them - it was proved many times with videos I won't gonna post links, people were doing it already many times.
But there is no point in writing anything - there is always plenty of newbie players which prefer to nerf other classes than get a gear or learn how to play their own class or are expecting good results in pvp having pve build. GWF has been nerfed to the ground in module 5 and 6. Right now on 2,5k + IL and BiS lvl GWF is the weakest class along with SW. Its also typical for this game that casual players entering pvp for daily ad are making "class balances" (and devs are listening to them), because of that many players left game.

In PvE? - there are some situations that GWF is simply not able to attack, for example: in Lostmauth dung. on 2 boss scorpions battle when you don't have a tank in pt gwf can't attack, why? - because this is melee, close combat, class with no defense, when you get one scorpion hit you are dead, ranged class may kite boss and dps him at the same time, gwf can't. Only thing you can do is trying to run and hit but this way you are losing more than 50% dps while ranged classes are hitting boss all the time. Curious why ppl don't want GWF in pt for ECC?

mafoi1515

gomok72 said:

I just wanted to clear up somethings about rumors of things to come in the game that are true or not, I'll scratch off the ones that came or are coming to fruition within the game.

Warlocks are getting a buff: Confirmed by developers
Raw stat enchants will get 100 more stats added to the 700 giving it a total value of 800: Unconfirmed.
Fey touch is getting nerfed: Unconfirmed
Barkshield is getting buffed: Unconfirmed
Negation is getting nerfed: Unconfirmed
Rogues are getting nerfed: Unconfirmed
Companions won't be used in SH PvP: Confirmed by developers.
Players will have the opportunity to upgrade mounts to mythic with bonus, later on: Unconfirmed
New class coming to game: Confirmed by developers.
Crafting will have a new way to make vanity wears: Unconfirmed
All enchants, will have another once over: unconfirmed.
Tiamat will be a map choice within foundry making: Unconfirmed

These are some of the things I have been reading within the game and wanted to see what has everyone else heard?

Not sure if this is right place to put this topic, but it's a start.

Rumors, but I think currrent game situation is so dull that anything makes it better.

...but if mount get "upgrade" to Mythic, then ONLY LEgendary mount is usefull for upgrade... hmmm, very cryptict fro me.

regenerde

clonkyo1 said:

commanderdata002 said:

clonkyo1 said:

Another nerf for GWF class?? From useless to more useless than useless. Nice to know.

dude! It was way overbuffed in mod6!

In PvE, it outperforms thanks to +30% of increased damage due Lostmauth set. On PvP, it only over performs thanks to T. Feytouched + T. Negation combo.

So, please, before you do false claims, know the reasons behind the class being "broken".

Why should anyone care about a reason behind the damage?
They just look at big damage numbers, and then cry for a nerf.
That's it.