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Scourge Warlock is too weak
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Its 100% worst class . Should get fast boost . Spend alot AD and Zen already have best legendary companion (black dragon) 2.6+ gs best dps way use best skills and still dmg is really <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> ppl with worse gear score do more. SW is paper class so where is logic ? If all other class do few times better dmg. CW TR HR all have good "cc" DC have imba heal OP GW high defence and good dmg GWF is unstopable with at least 4x better dmg then SW . Scourge Warlock have nothing good even "life drain" have same like other class
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But looks like just another broken promise.
+ Soulbinder + Damnation only does the "best damage", if there are several circumstances coming together.
Just try the same spec solo, then try it in dungeon runs, and you will see it for yourself.
And don't forget, the Soul Puppet, the key ingredient, will get stuck at any- and everything along the way...
Overall, SW could use a boost and some real bug fixing...
A 2000 IL GWF put up higher damage in a dungeon than I did today.
Warlock is worst class in PvP and PvE.
Sopi SW Youtube channel pvp brickabrack
You get 20% ls in Stronghold to reach mod5 level.
Who runs solo? Everybody does lesser dmg solo w/o party buffs.
In eCC/TOS SWs are outdpsing other dps classes with same gear 2:1 (other than GWFs ofc).
Soul puppets/TT does very high dmg.
A lot of players run solo, there is content beside dungeons...
And i don't give a damn about Strongholds.
But how about turning all the healing from anyone into a chance?
Because that is what happened to the SW with Elemental Evil, and since that is not a problem, any other class should get the same treatment - problem solved.
If you need SW who can do anything take Hellbringer and fury who have mechanic bug,fury's feats can have crit,its beautyfull because 4-5 different hits per skill...+lostmauth set Dx Yummy! example.. necrotic from patch 30,50,60(norma skill) 25K+(last feats)+100% dmg from this and (can be crit) Xxlostmauth vegenance 2K :) only fury's bug take SW on this game(but still worst dps)
Those are the high end SW's, people sporting rank 12's, mythic gear, or are using the soul puppet/damnation exploit.
Honestly, a SW in rank 12s is about as good as any other class in rank 7's or 8's.
All due to exploits that sooner or later (Probably sooner) will get fixed, unlike Harrowstorm that has been broken for 3+ months now.
oh come on..
thats a little over the top.. any class with that much (around 4k ilevel) will totally dominate any other class with sub 3 .. SW included, even on fury line without the damnation involved.
I will agree SW could use some rework though, as some lines of HR that are vastly underperforming.
GWF sents have just as much to complain about, they are a tank class that cant tank anything!
Very few classes have every line that works in game well.
But frankly, thats like every mmo anyways.
Wrong
Take a 4kGS furylock and run with a 2.5 GS GWF with lolset + pVorp
The warlock will cry at the end of each dungeon bc he lost in most cases, thats a fact
Ive seen some really powerful SWs that would totally dominate a 2.5k one, however, they were probably damnation, my sw is only around 2.3k and i dont play it all that much , too much else to do, its still a fun class, but I will agree, it needs some love.
Yes ... such feats are possible with the old Fabled set from Sharandar. Of course that ONLY works on targets who have millions of hit points and to do it you end up wearing a suit of level 60 armor in Tiamat. It's nowhere near that effective on normal mobs, the effect being almost unnoticeable unless you are hitting a boss with it. That set is also unavailable any more, so only a relatively small number of SWs actually have a set of it (Which makes it foolish to try to balance a whole class around).
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It's meant to be a wizardy DPS, and they can do decent DPS, but thats it, decent. Take away their DPS and what have they got? Soul Puppets that are unreliable? They're very low on survivability, so they'll always be passed over for a CW or a GWF because they can do the same, or more, damage without half the vulnerability.
Last night I ran eToS with 2 of them, one decently geared and the other was just under 2.1k iL. Guess which one was leading the pack with damage? You would be correct to think that the player with the better gear would be that player... and you would be wrong. At least until the until the decently geared SW put on their old Fabled set. Both of them were well over 100 million damage... at the end of things. Whereas a 2.8k iL SS/Renegade was 3rd with about 60 million, closely followed by me, a 2.3k iL Wk/Scoundrel.
Maybe we have one of the more eminent experts on SWs in our guild... or maybe it is not as broken as most would believe. After all... everyone has said that Scoundrel was broken... yet I see Scoundrel being used more, now, than perma-stealth TR.
The gear is not bugged, the stat curves from M5 are very different as you know.
Anyway, just get all those players to a training puppet and then let them go to work solo, no group buffs and/or any buff food, that should put things into perspective.
Yep, solo for a SW is very depressing, even for the all mighty damnation.
My Tank does very little DPS... so he burned each of those under 2 minutes, as well. Trust me I am shocked at the output he delivers every time I play with him.
Are they as strong as they were? Is a Scoundrel what it used to be?
Take a SW and a TR to a training puppet, only use level 70 rare equipment from the auction house, no enchantments, no artifact equipment, and no buffs at all.
Then compare the damage outcome from each of them...
And that is also how the Devs should balance classes, and not on some report based on broken/bugged equipment and/or class powers.
We all share our builds in-guild... so usually one SW will have a VERY similar build to the original.
And then start fixing class and equipment bugs, instead of messing around with class or general game features, that are not broken.
That's what i want, and i think that is a pretty reasonable request.