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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    so she does ideas of Doom. Precognition is not always useful. Not everyone gets the winning lotto numbers ability.
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  • sistersiliconsistersilicon Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    Am I the only one who got her joke?

    60% of the time, Sterga's posts are sarcastic every time.
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  • kemmicalskemmicals Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    60% of the time, Sterga's posts are sarcastic every time.

    I'll be honest, it's really hard to tell with people going off the rails when the smallest things get changed and it also doesn't help that I read zone chat way too often.
  • jedite2012jedite2012 Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    really disappointing, it is only a little piece of goggles which we have heaps of in stores already

    even if it look a little different goggles is still goggles
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  • themightyzeniththemightyzenith Posts: 4,599 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jedite2012 wrote: »
    really disappointing, it is only a little piece of goggles which we have heaps of in stores already

    even if it look a little different goggles is still goggles

    Then you are not a costume fanatic....I think it's different enough, and pretty cool
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I like them, I usually only use a few pairs of visor/glasses because most of the rest don't fit the costumes I make.
    These ones, I have several who can use them.
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  • jedite2012jedite2012 Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Then you are not a costume fanatic....I think it's different enough, and pretty cool

    I just find it not enough, it would be better if it was like a beast head or a cape design..something that will be worth subscribing for
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  • themightyzeniththemightyzenith Posts: 4,599 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    jedite2012 wrote: »
    I just find it not enough, it would be better if it was like a beast head or a cape design..something that will be worth subscribing for

    It's gonna be a unique costume piece every month. Who knows what goodies will come our way.

    Plus, I personally think it's worth subscribing even without this. With the three month deal it's only just over $10 dollars a month and 500 Zen per month is part of what you get for the subsciption.

    I can understand if folks have other priorities or financial difficulties.
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  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    jedite2012 wrote: »
    I just find it not enough, it would be better if it was like a beast head or a cape design..something that will be worth subscribing for

    See, this is a matter of opinion.

    For me? Beast heads are absolutely worthless and I never intend to use one, ever. I wouldn't notice if every beast head disappeared from the game without warning- and really, honest- it'd have no bearing on me.

    On ME.

    Except I know what it might mean to someone else. I might not care, but this game doesn't revolve around me. I can suggest things to improve the game, but in the end I can tell you if this game did revolve around what I want, it'd be a completely different beast. I just accept it for what it is- a piece of internet real estate I invested in and share with others.

    Let me put this into perspective:

    It's a free costume part. If it's cool? I'll take it. If it sucks? I don't. I am losing absolutely nothing.

    This was never intended to be a 'reason' for you to sub. There's a few other reasons. You get a stipend to throw at the C-store among the whole freeform, costume sets, etc.

    Chances are, and I'll bet a couple of cosmic keys on it- these costumes from the Gold vendor were 'miscellaneous parts' that the Devs couldn't justify putting into any costume sets, and instead have opted just to toss them out like this.

    Of course, quite honestly- I wouldn't have minded seeing them sell costume parts that fall into the same category for 100 zen as well.
  • speekasspeekas Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Simple idea how to solve this "problem" everyone having with new Gold Vendor.

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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,629 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    jedite2012 wrote: »
    I just find it not enough, it would be better if it was like a beast head or a cape design..something that will be worth subscribing for

    The problem with that is once its gone, newer players would see the head and realize they can't ever get the exclusive piece.
  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited June 2014
    jedite2012 wrote: »
    I just find it not enough, it would be better if it was like a beast head or a cape design..something that will be worth subscribing for

    Nope. It is a good idea to use miscellaneous parts like those in the gold bonus vendor.

    Missing small things like a pair of glasses, or something like that? It's hardly a character concept breaking issue.

    Now, repeating the old mistake and putting something on pair with the Avian warrior costume in the vendor? Something that might be crucial for character concepts, but player could never had any opportunity to get it just because he wasn't around when the thing was released in the store?

    That would suck for many people.

    The idea is good as it is. Small appreciation bonus to feel special.

    True value of subscription is more than a few small costume parts.



    But then. I'm probably one of the few players of the very strange minority who think that costumes are only a mildly important fluff.
    The thing is that, while the idea may work, it is just a small bandaid to help with players retention. And even IF Cryptic would introduce also some kind of loyalty rewards for Zen purchases, that also would be (while being also a nice thing) a band aid working in a short term.

    In the end, no matter how many new costume parts are pumped into the game, it's the gameplay development what keeps players playing. The most gorgeous free costumes will not succeed at keeping players if the only things you can do clad in the costumes is camping in RenCen waiting for queues.
  • quasimojo1quasimojo1 Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The problem with that is once its gone, newer players would see the head and realize they can't ever get the exclusive piece.

    Or, if they tend to be more of the-glass-is-half-full type, they might realize "if I subscribe I can get neat pieces like that for myself in the future".
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  • stergasterga Posts: 2,353 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    quasimojo1 wrote: »
    Or, if they tend to be more of the-glass-is-half-full type, they might realize "if I subscribe I can get neat pieces like that for myself in the future".

    If the Vet Rewards aren't enough to get people to sub for this reason, vendor rewards aren't going to be either.

    kemmicals wrote: »
    If that's not a load of hyperbole, I'm not sure what is anymore. Granted, I kinda blew the number of people that actually do this out of proportion in my initial post and I apologize for that.

    That was for ... uh, Silverspar, or whoever it was that claimed my ideas would have bankrupted several companies by now.

    Here's a tip: I sound like Daria. Imagine what everything I type would sound like if it was Daria speaking. Except that part where I said "pumpkin". That was all Handsome Jack.


    Well crap, I'm going to have that "song" stuck in my head now.
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  • kemmicalskemmicals Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    sterga wrote: »
    That was for ... uh, Silverspar, or whoever it was that claimed my ideas would have bankrupted several companies by now.

    Here's a tip: I sound like Daria. Imagine what everything I type would sound like if it was Daria speaking. Except that part where I said "pumpkin". That was all Handsome Jack.


    Well crap, I'm going to have that "song" stuck in my head now.

    ... I have a sudden urge to draw Sterga in Daria glasses now. The mental image is too goofy. :biggrin:
  • chimerafreekchimerafreek Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    You know what would get me to pay them money? Content. Signs that they are listening to us. Updates and fixes that people CONSTANTLY point out being updated and fixed, and not removing drops from certain enemies with the label of 'fix' on it. (seriously, NO ONE asked for Q-drops and Mega D XP/Globs to be removed, and NO ONE complained that they where there. where as people ASKED them to bring them back and COMPLAINED that they where gone.


    Point being, they seem to think that we'll just throw money at them just because we have money to throw at them, without actually fixing anything or adding anything outside of a costume set every couple of months. *and THOSE are hit and miss with certain players, either it has something someone will use or it doesn't*


    Also, if all they want to focus on is STO and NW, How about THIS update for those; Make it so they can leave our trade chat without having to download CO, It's annoying to get PM'd constantly asking "Can you have an admin kick me from your trade" when the chat itself lacks one, and there's really no reason for them not to be able to leave the channel themselves.


    TL:DR; I'll pay them money when there's something worth Paying for. and not a pair of glasses. also fix STO/NW chat so they can leave our trade chat.
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  • ealford1985ealford1985 Posts: 3,582 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Doesn't that argument of "give me ______ before I'll subscribe" get old?

    People need to stop putting their own definition on content, content has been released since the game first come out. The same people who say they will subscribe when they get ____ are really full of it.
  • gandalesgandales Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Doesn't that argument of "give me ______ before I'll subscribe" get old?

    People need to stop putting their own definition on content, content has been released since the game first come out. The same people who say they will subscribe when they get ____ are really full of it.

    Not different that Cryptic's argument that they would put more money in CO if they have more subscribers.

    Both arguments create a starvation deadlock that slowly cripples the game future.

    The main purpose of these new feature is for players subscribe continuosly and not 1 month every 3-6 months. Any suggestion that undermines that objective would defeat the purpose of these rewards.
  • ashensnowashensnow Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    gandales wrote: »
    The main purpose of these new feature is for players subscribe continuosly and not 1 month every 3-6 months. Any suggestion that undermines that objective would defeat the purpose of these rewards.

    I would not be surprised to discover that the main purpose is to generate revenue. The subscription seems likely to be a means of achieving that purpose. These are multiple methods of paying for one's CO experience. This new reward system addresses, and can generate income from, only one of them.

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  • lafury001200lafury001200 Posts: 567 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Doesn't that argument of "give me ______ before I'll subscribe" get old?

    People need to stop putting their own definition on content, content has been released since the game first come out. The same people who say they will subscribe when they get ____ are really full of it.

    Nope. Sorry.

    CO does not exist in a vacuum, and while I think rags like Massively harp on the lack of content tediously, when you have the CEO of Cryptic saying the same thing, you sir, can take your nonsense and go suck lemons.
  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,629 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Doesn't that argument of "give me ______ before I'll subscribe" get old?

    People need to stop putting their own definition on content, content has been released since the game first come out. The same people who say they will subscribe when they get ____ are really full of it.

    Cryptic has gone as far as to be more specific in their updates in their other games when those updates include actual content. And said content is defined as places to go to, explore, and farm in that is relative to locations in the game.

    They haven't described any Champions updates to be filled with "content" since before On Alert when they announced Whiteout.

    In other words, Champions hasn't gotten Cryptic defined content since then.
  • xydaxydaxydaxyda Posts: 817 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Cryptic has gone as far as to be more specific in their updates in their other games when those updates include actual content. And said content is defined as places to go to, explore, and farm in that is relative to locations in the game.

    They haven't described any Champions updates to be filled with "content" since before On Alert when they announced Whiteout.

    In other words, Champions hasn't gotten Cryptic defined content since then.

    Except for Fatal Error.
  • iamruneiamrune Posts: 965 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    What about the Lemurian Invasion? That was new content.

    Would be nice to see the second instanced mission come back, I admit. The throw away part one bit was cute but too simple/fast.
  • jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,000 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Good grief, the self-entitlement in this thread...

    While I have no problems there being exclusive bonus rewards for subscribers, I don't agree that they should be cycled out for new ones on a monthly basis. I get that Cryptic is trying to get people to impulse-buy a month of Gold just to get the costume piece of the month, but this is only a quick fix and it's not a long term solution to get people to stay subbed for longer periods of time.
  • themightyzeniththemightyzenith Posts: 4,599 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    i didn't see any posts where someone acted self-entitled, unless I missed one. I just read a healthy discussion with for and against points of view...and also some suggestions.
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  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    So, has the Npc revealed itself to us yet?
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  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I think the Quartermaster NPC is returning for this purpose, Finn.
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  • quasimojo1quasimojo1 Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    jennymachx wrote: »
    Good grief, the self-entitlement in this thread...

    While I have no problems there being exclusive bonus rewards for subscribers, I don't agree that they should be cycled out for new ones on a monthly basis. I get that Cryptic is trying to get people to impulse-buy a month of Gold just to get the costume piece of the month, but this is only a quick fix and it's not a long term solution to get people to stay subbed for longer periods of time.

    Maybe I'm confused by your point, particularly with the reference to self-entitlement. I don't really have any strong feelings about this whole thing one way or the other. But when I think of self-entitlement with reference to this thread, I think of the people who seem to feel "entitled" to content (e.g. the costume pieces) without having a subscription and logging into the game at least once a month. Maybe that's what you meant.

    As to whether this will be an effective retention strategy, well, who here really knows without having access to privileged data. I think we can agree that by itself it's not going to turn this ship around. But I could see it having some impact, particularly on some players who may already be month-to-month, and decide to keep the sub going so they don't miss out on "exclusive" content. The cost to Cryptic for the program is probably minimal as well, as they may be extra costume models they already have lying around, or maybe have some creative resource with extra hours between other projects working on. So in terms of ROI I could see it being a good decision with some marginal benefits to both subscribers and the game (and not lockbox-related, another plus).
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  • jadetorajadetora Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    quasimojo1 wrote: »
    Maybe I'm confused by your point, particularly with the reference to self-entitlement. I don't really have any strong feelings about this whole thing one way or the other. But when I think of self-entitlement with reference to this thread, I think of the people who seem to feel "entitled" to content (e.g. the costume pieces) without having a subscription and logging into the game at least once a month. Maybe that's what you meant.

    As to whether this will be an effective retention strategy, well, who here really knows without having access to privileged data. I think we can agree that by itself it's not going to turn this ship around. But I could see it having some impact, particularly on some players who may already be month-to-month, and decide to keep the sub going so they don't miss out on "exclusive" content. The cost to Cryptic for the program is probably minimal as well, as they may be extra costume models they already have lying around, or maybe have some creative resource with extra hours between other projects working on. So in terms of ROI I could see it being a good decision with some marginal benefits to both subscribers and the game (and not lockbox-related, another plus).

    lol

    Implying Cryptic's business practices were ever geared towards Customer retention in any of their games.
  • chalupaoffurychalupaoffury Posts: 2,553 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    HOLY COW. It's like someone turned a bug zapper on for the grumpy forumites. Only on the internet would people who subscribe ***** about getting free stuff for subscribing, jeez guys. And if you don't subscribe? Well then, TANSTAAFL. Pony up if you want it so bad, it's only 15 bucks a month. If you play enough to be bugged by this, you play enough to make 15 bucks worth it.

    And eef, the "it's not a good retention plan" people? It's one more free costume piece, on top of free retcons over time/vet rewards/unlimited character slots/everything else you get for subbing. And this one hit right in our interests: free costumes. WTF, they could hand out diamond studded cheesecake and some of y'all would be ******** that it didn't have strawberries. Just enjoy it, ffs. Quit crapping all over every good thing they try to hand us, this is how we get ants Lana.

    Inb4 someone calls me a fanboy.

    Also, news article says it comes out in June. It's June. 'Meer turtle. Gieb.
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  • xydaxydaxydaxyda Posts: 817 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    But...they're going to take the costume pieces away and people who don't want to pay now but might pay later will never see them again!

    That seems to be what most people are complaining about here..

    They won't resub because this is not enough, but if they ever do resub they'll be outraged that something they might want will be unavailable. That or they cannot be bothered to log in once a month and they're outraged that they are being forced into it to get the free costume piece.


    I do detect a slight hint of entitlement here...just a little bit.


    Many folks seem to think things should just be handed to them on a silver platter. While a slim few others(in this thread at least) believe that effort should be rewarded.
  • jadetorajadetora Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    holy Cow. It's Like Someone Turned A Bug Zapper On For The Grumpy Forumites. Only On The Internet Would People Who Subscribe ***** About Getting Free Stuff For Subscribing, Jeez Guys. And If You Don't Subscribe? Well Then, Tanstaafl. Pony Up If You Want It So Bad, It's Only 15 Bucks A Month. If You Play Enough To Be Bugged By This, You Play Enough To Make 15 Bucks Worth It.

    And Eef, The "it's Not A Good Retention Plan" People? It's One More Free Costume Piece, On Top Of Free Retcons Over Time/vet Rewards/unlimited Character Slots/everything Else You Get For Subbing. And This One Hit Right In Our Interests: Free Costumes. Wtf, They Could Hand Out Diamond Studded Cheesecake And Some Of Y'all Would Be ******** That It Didn't Have Strawberries. Just Enjoy It, Ffs. Quit Crapping All Over Every Good Thing They Try To Hand Us, This Is How We Get Ants Lana.

    Inb4 Someone Calls Me A Fanboy.

    Also, News Article Says It Comes Out In June. It's June. 'meer Turtle. Gieb.

    Fanbooooooyyyyy!!!!! :D
  • xydaxydaxydaxyda Posts: 817 Arc User
    edited June 2014

    Also, news article says it comes out in June. It's June. 'Meer turtle. Gieb.

    Good news, I got my speedster goggles yesterday.
  • chalupaoffurychalupaoffury Posts: 2,553 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    xydaxyda wrote: »
    But...they're going to take the costume pieces away and people who don't want to pay now but might pay later will never see them again!

    That seems to be what most people are complaining about here..

    They won't resub because this is not enough, but if they ever do resub they'll be outraged that something they might want will be unavailable. That or they cannot be bothered to log in once a month and they're outraged that they are being forced into it to get the free costume piece.


    I do detect a slight hint of entitlement here...just a little bit.


    Many folks seem to think things should just be handed to them on a silver platter. While a slim few others(in this thread at least) believe that effort should be rewarded.

    In a nutshell, well put.

    Side note: TINFOIL FEZ ENGAGED!
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    I'm firmly of the opinion, until proven wrong or we get word of Turtle otherwise, that our removed costume unlocks are in the same boat. A legacy unlock for people that have played since the early days, kept exclusive as a pat on the head to the old players that farmed em. It's the only reason I can think of why we've gotten stuff like the harquebus in one event, again as a tip of the hat to exclusivity, but no real traction on getting any of the rest of em back in game.

    I feel like if we see em in any format, it'll be as the harquebus was. A one off during an event, to give some access to them for a limited time. Miss it and they're gone.

    The only proof I have that this might not be a thing, and it might be because it wasn't decided yet, was that we didn't see the hyperdimensional shifthopper armbands (as well as other lost nem pieces) during forum malvanum.
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  • serpinecohserpinecoh Posts: 353 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Side note: TINFOIL FEZ ENGAGED!

    Possible part for July?
  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited June 2014
    I'm firmly of the opinion, until proven wrong or we get word of Turtle otherwise, that our removed costume unlocks are in the same boat. A legacy unlock for people that have played since the early days, kept exclusive as a pat on the head to the old players that farmed em.

    And if it's true, it only proves Cryptic's contempt and extremely bad attitude towards their playerbase, or lack of touch with players. Or their poor management. Since it only aggravates and annoys the players.

    So... If it's true? Then no wonder Cryptic can't command any sympathy and loyalty.

    Keeping the game fresh by removing content? Seems very cryptically legit. :cool:
  • stergasterga Posts: 2,353 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Dear Cryptic:

    Next time you do something that would normally be a questionable business decision or repetition of a mistake that has failed in the past, don't forget to add a pair of sunglasses. Because free stuff makes everything better and blinds people to all other issues.

    I propose a new ad campaign: Sunglasses for sub. It's sure to be a winner.

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  • chalupaoffurychalupaoffury Posts: 2,553 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    So they're bad when they don't do stuff, and they're terrible when they do. Got it.
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  • ealford1985ealford1985 Posts: 3,582 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    So they're bad when they don't do stuff, and they're terrible when they do. Got it.

    Why won't they listen to us!?!?

    Add content! *content added* ahhh! That isn't the right stuff! Show us you care! *adds bonus* Wahhhh!!! You don't care!

    Forums Online is my favorite game but they need new content!
  • chalupaoffurychalupaoffury Posts: 2,553 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Why won't they listen to us!?!?

    Add content! *content added* ahhh! That isn't the right stuff! Show us you care! *adds bonus* Wahhhh!!! You don't care!

    Forums Online is my favorite game but they need new content!

    I think this is the best pvp mode there is.

    I get why so many people are jaded, but damn. That can't be healthy.
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  • jadetorajadetora Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Why won't they listen to us!?!?

    Add content! *content added* ahhh! That isn't the right stuff! Show us you care! *adds bonus* Wahhhh!!! You don't care!

    Forums Online is my favorite game but they need new content!

    Probably because aside from two repeatable missions in like the past two years, they haven't really added any content. And those short missions and Alerts don't really constitute content when what the majority of the player-base actually wants is a new Zone, end-game, or something that takes more than fifteen minutes to complete.
  • sladeraccoonsladeraccoon Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I'd like the new speedster goggles a lot more if I could color the lenses.
  • eiledoneiledon Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    you can color the lenses - you can also choose, cloth, leather, metal or glass. all options but glass have a glow option also.

    Custom Eye Accessory is the section you are looking for.
  • morigosamorigosa Posts: 710 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Ah, but you can! The trick is that, when you have the speedster goggles selected in the eye details category, you get an entirely new category: custom eye detail. That second one allows you to adjust color & material of the lenses.
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  • serpinecohserpinecoh Posts: 353 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    jadetora wrote: »
    Probably because aside from two repeatable missions in like the past two years, they haven't really added any content.

    Haven't Nighthawk, Lemurian Invasion, the carrier mission, Fire & Ice, Cybermind arc, and Foxbat's April party all been in the last two years? I'd consider vehicles, auras, and costume sets content as well but your mileage may vary.

    A handful of the "not enough content" posts in this thread have increasingly left me wanting to shift my position on the gold bonus item's long term availability simply because I find them so over the top. I find it impossible to believe CO sees this new program as a grand content solution: It feels like a bonus just as they say it is intended. For all we know, maybe it is an internal company bonus as well: Maybe in a meeting some of the model designers requested a system where they could make some small cool things while still on the clock (I could see myself requesting such a thing if I had that job) and the higher ups came up with this as a way to make it happen and improve worker morale.

    Anyway, the goggles launched. I got them. Process and implementation seemed bug free. Yay.
  • sistersiliconsistersilicon Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    sterga wrote: »
    Dear Cryptic:

    Next time you do something that would normally be a questionable business decision or repetition of a mistake that has failed in the past, don't forget to add a pair of sunglasses. Because free stuff makes everything better and blinds people to all other issues.

    I propose a new ad campaign: Sunglasses for sub. It's sure to be a winner.

    Sincerely,

    Sterga

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    They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends / Gonna last with you longer than your friends
  • chalupaoffurychalupaoffury Posts: 2,553 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Just got em, and I'm not gonna lie. They're sexy. Make a great pair of oakley style sport glasses.

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    In game, I am @EvilTaco. Happily killing purple gang members since May 2008.
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    RIP Caine
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