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Champions, we're happy to say that, this week, we're going to be removing restrictions on the costume tailor for brand-new players. A while back, we made a change where new players creating characters get a much smaller selection of costume pieces to choose from, in order to streamline character creation.
Since that change was released, we've been keeping a careful eye on this, and how it impacts player retention. After sifting through the data, it's clear that it's better to re-open the tailor, so a new player gets the full Champions experience of a nigh-limitless list of costume pieces.
This is just part of our recent focus on quality of life changes. We’ve taken a few weeks to prioritize the player experience of the core game, and find ways to make Champions a little more fun. You can think of this as a short-term Bug Stompathon, except instead of limiting ourselves to bugs, we've tackled design choices as well.
For new players, the opened tailor is going to take their breath away, and they're going to really see all the potential for costumes in Champions.
For veterans, we've already released the Resource cap increase, which is going to really help the game economy work more smoothly. This week's patch should also include a fix to the map's zoom: You've probably noticed that in larger maps like Millennium City, you can't zoom out all the way, making some missions hard to find.
One of my old bosses had something he called the "emotional to-do list" -- things that you're committed to doing, but you don't know when you'll be able to get to them. It feels good to say that, for some of these changes, the day finally came.
We’re proud of these changes, and we hope you enjoy them. Make sure to keep an eye on the forums and blogs for all the latest Champions news!
-The Champions Online team
Since that change was released, we've been keeping a careful eye on this, and how it impacts player retention. After sifting through the data, it's clear that it's better to re-open the tailor, so a new player gets the full Champions experience of a nigh-limitless list of costume pieces.
This is just part of our recent focus on quality of life changes. We’ve taken a few weeks to prioritize the player experience of the core game, and find ways to make Champions a little more fun. You can think of this as a short-term Bug Stompathon, except instead of limiting ourselves to bugs, we've tackled design choices as well.
For new players, the opened tailor is going to take their breath away, and they're going to really see all the potential for costumes in Champions.
For veterans, we've already released the Resource cap increase, which is going to really help the game economy work more smoothly. This week's patch should also include a fix to the map's zoom: You've probably noticed that in larger maps like Millennium City, you can't zoom out all the way, making some missions hard to find.
One of my old bosses had something he called the "emotional to-do list" -- things that you're committed to doing, but you don't know when you'll be able to get to them. It feels good to say that, for some of these changes, the day finally came.
We’re proud of these changes, and we hope you enjoy them. Make sure to keep an eye on the forums and blogs for all the latest Champions news!
-The Champions Online team
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Ok, so having said that...I have 4 requests:
1. Put the block station back in the tutorial so newbies learn how to block. It is my strong opinion that this will improve the overall gaming experience(especially PUG related) for a very decent amount of the playerbase.
2. Put the Canada/Desert Crisis back at LvL 6 so new players(or those running missions on new alts) have 3 options and are not forced to slog through Westside on each and every toon. Now, don't get me wrong, I do like Westside but there are people here who have done it many many many many times and that kind of repetition can get old pretty quick. This change is back to when we had 3 "starter paths" and I believe it was a better setup overall.
3. Champions Online State of The Game 2015. It's about time to bring this thing back and, even if it's vague, actually have an official statement from Cryptic North that both shows the skeptics that they are communicating as well as the overall playerbase a ballpark guestimation of what is to come in 2015.
4. Delete the Until Field Report Subforums. They're not being used. I do not see them being used any time in the near future. All they do is put on display, front and center, some nice ideas that never happened(and some horrid ones too). Every once in a while someone bumps them so they look nice and current but then you look and it's nothing. The Age of Old Cryptic is in the past now and it is The Age of Cryptic North. There is no need to put the past on display. It is my opinion that this is just an eyesore causing negativity and damage. Please make it die.
Sure, there are powers, content, balance, neglected features, and a whole slew of other issues which could be mentioned in this thread but I thought I'd stick with 4 semi-simple(I think, could be wrong) and relevant requests when considering this year's activities thus far. Thanks for reading and thanks to CN for handling this stuff. :biggrin:
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It was a silly, counter-intuitive idea in the first place. It shocks me people had to have it shown that it wasn't a good idea. Glad you got rid of it.
This, this, a thousand times this! It took me forever to learn the importance of blocking in this game and in the middle of a battle is NOT the time to half-assed explain it.
I'll second reverting Canada and the Desert to L6, and putting back the whole original tutorial while we're there.
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This issue in particular seems to come up for new players that discovered CO through Steam, but I'm not sure. They get these "character creation failed" errors, which may be related to the now-lifted limitation.
If there's interest to smooth the new player entry process, I agree a simple (though not necessarily easy) is to unpin or remove old posts or forums. If character creation is the 1st impression, checking the forums for information is a very possible 2nd one, and seeing the latest info dated as 2012 really gives the wrong impression.
Hope to see more of these Quality of Life improvements.
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I do have a suggestion related to the tailor streamlining - As we have started to have new costumes added the parts have generally been added to the bottom of the costume list in each category. This has resulted in the costume lists having a somewhat haphazard look. Is it possible to re-sort the costume part lists in each category? If so could this either be done automatically when new parts are added, or manually on a regular basis.
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It's super-heroes! Retcons were made to be reconned!
Select Back > Cape Brooch
Select Cape
> Toggle inside
> change the first cape color, it updates the body color on screen while you decide on colors and updates the inside cape color when you finally click on a color.
>Toggle outside color of the cape and change the color
> Toggle inside color, now choosing colors continues to update the outside color of the cape on screen, until a color is clicked and it updates the inside of the cape as expected. On one of my tests of this it changed the outside of the cape and the body and legs color before finally only updating the inside of the cape.
Is this working as intended?
Is there supposed to be two "Hips Layer" items in the list?
If there is supposed to be two hips layers, merge and duplicate the lists entirely.
Cosmic 1 and Cosmic 2 probably look good together.
Seriously that Idea was HORRIBLE! Whoever had the idea to Clip character costumization for Newbies needs to get Fired
Better late than never
I hope that the Avaible non-purchased Z Store costumes Qlitch will get fixed as well, the Hide all Unpurchased Z-store costumes button doesn't work in the Character Creation, it's just make the costumes invinsible but they still show in the list
I'm REALLY liking those Quality of Life changes so far, I hope we get more this Season
So, since the year 2015 seems to be the "Year of Bad Choice Reversal", is Champedia making a triumphant return?
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how about just wiping posts and closing the threads?
or adding a new subsection like the Off Topic one?
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And oh my, please please please make Canada Crisis and Desert Crisis lower level again (level 6 or 8).
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
WooHoo glad to see this happening its not a full on tailor reworking but at least the options will be there for every one and they can start to have proper fun with one of CO greatest features.
Also, having an old blocking tutorial would be nice.
The "Character Creation Failed" issue is most likely caused when the character's costume uses a piece they don't actually have access to such as an unpurchased C-Store Set. Currently, there is an issue somewhere that won't tell the player which pieces they do or don't have. While we're removing the restrictions, maybe you can make the tailor default to "Show owned costumes only"? That would be a simple cover up while you guys work to fix the real issue.
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I.....yeah, we really do need this because as it stands 99% of new players don't even know blocking is in the game [nearly every time i decide to carry an XP alert on a level 40 char and it rolls over to Aoqulipth or whatever his name is spelled like, i tell the lowbies to block his attacks if he targets them, and 9 out of 10 times, if the lowbie is in new champs i get "There's blocking?" or "What do you mean block?" as the response]
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Yeah some things are broken... no I don't use/abuse them.. where would be the fun in that?
So can a beast--I misread it like that too. "[...] we're going to be removing restrictions on the costume tailor--"
WOOOO for about five minutes until I re-read it.
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The question is, what other stuff and things will come out in the lead up to CO's anniversary? The ability to blow up traffic jams perhaps?
The global cap changes do impact gold / lts members. This filthy silver can buy and sell expensive things on the AH, giving me more reason to stick around and play. I suspect it's true for others. Having more people to play with impacts my fun. Otherwise, there's no reason to bother with a MMO. Same can be said for a better tailor. If someone's first impression is that the tailor is crap, they won't make it far.
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Wow, you get a response? I usually just get ignored as I watch Al's healh bar heal to full.
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Champedia was the Cryptic-hosted database of everyone's characters, right? No, that's a waaaaaay bigger undertaking, and I don't even know whether the old code would work well with our current version of Champs, let alone with the current website.
The only change is to new players' tailor experience.
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These would be nice, especially number one. It is rather amazing how many new people aren't aware of blocking. I really like number 2 as well, though wish they would integrate the concept of hero types/styles into it for further role-playing/immersion possibilities.
it can in with the Magical girl set because they have a butt cape(hips layer) which goes under the skirt.(hips layer)
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What about when we could pull our character from the headshot server as a forum avatar?
Remember when we could enroll our twitter accounts with CO to display achievements and tweet from within the game?(With WoW doing this, a resurfacing of the feature would be great. What about the old MASHON service? Character blogs? Game mail integration with the site?
...Rate my champion?
Pretty much anything that involves syncing with the ArcGames site isn't likely to happen. It'd be a one-off thing for Champions, and the platform team is gung-ho about adding features that can work for all games, instead of being specific to one particular game -- that's a better use of engineering and design time, because it can be used for all current games and all future games.
I take it this means that the issue of tailor items not being properly marked as locked or unlocked sometimes is also being looked at? (for ref, issue 1 in: http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=296501)
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Champedia was eventually replaced with the PRIMUS database wiki, so that's awesome as we probably have more control over how our characters are displayed via the fanmade version.
I don't remember MashOn though, what was that?
On the tailor fix, glad to see CN are cool with fixing stuff.
The hideout rooms were obviated by On Alert. I hardly think completing two extra rooms with no point other than maybe RPing in is a high priority for CN, not when there are still some major things that need handled.
The connectivity issues for the most part have to do with CogentCo, an ISP just upstream from Cryptic's sole server farm, and there's not a bloody thing they can do about it.
Why you want TT to take time out to answer those questions yet again is beyond me; it's not likely the answers will have changed any time recently.
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I can tell you with full confidence that the thirty minutes I spent playing with my character's costume before ever even starting the tutorial the first time I played champions played a pretty big role in my retention as a player.
Conversly I can tell you that when other MMOs give me four faces and five hairstyles to pick from and no outfit customization, I make this face---> u3u
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
That was true for me, too. I made and deleted three toons before really starting the tutorial because I wanted to change the appearance. It's CO's number one selling point.
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Fine. Lock them and delete the existing posts, you've already demonstrated you can do both and the net effect is the same.
Crosschan's other points are more important anyway.
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Please revert desert and canada! It would make the whole alt process better exponentially and sell character slots.
Why was the block section of the tutorial removed in the first place? Seems like a really bad move.
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