When I see comments about how the new design could actually depress people, I scratch my head and go "Really?". You're going to let yourself get depressed by something this trivial?
I saw multiple mentions of how the new layout felt depressing in this thread and another. I'm reading too much into people's comments? Maybe you should re-read things.
The "image" of the game is presented by the main web page (which is still pretty colorful and appealing to the eye), the information given on that page and it is also gotten from actual gameplay experience. If someone comes to the conclusion that a message board layout is actually enough to potray what the game is about and nothing else then that's an entirely different issue altogether.
To say that a forum layout is actually being able to drive away players is just stretching it.
The official site that is linked on the top of the page (and the linked champions page from arc) is as generic looking as the forums, which is no longer just a Champions focused idea. Sure the perfect world page looks like Champs should, but I see no reason why they had to change this page. It wouldn't drive away current players or necessarily prevent new players from seeing the game, but this simple layout and almost monotone color scheme feels... way too much like internet html 101 versus a forum that's been in existence for a long time about a comic styled game.
Personally it is a tad hard to read, everything being one color text wise (or really close to it) means that what should be attention grabbing titles and information is now just blended into everything else. I feel it's a poor move to change the former look into this one, it's a loss for the sake of company conformity.
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The official site that is linked on the top of the page (and the linked champions page from arc) is as generic looking as the forums, which is no longer just a Champions focused idea. Sure the perfect world page looks like Champs should, but I see no reason why they had to change this page. It wouldn't drive away current players or necessarily prevent new players from seeing the game, but this simple layout and almost monotone color scheme feels... way too much like internet html 101 versus a forum that's been in existence for a long time about a comic styled game.
Personally it is a tad hard to read, everything being one color text wise (or really close to it) means that what should be attention grabbing titles and information is now just blended into everything else. I feel it's a poor move to change the former look into this one, it's a loss for the sake of company conformity.
I disagree on the "tad hard to read" part, and this is coming from someone who's had myopia and astigmatism since childhood. If anything, one color text just makes things less distracting. Anyway I've already been criticized for ignoring possible types of vision impairments so I don't really want to continue with that.
If the color scheme is making things hard to read then I'd suggest using the browser addons in the links that I posted previously. If it's simply a matter of color preference then there's nothing else left to do but adapt if they aren't going to give us actual color scheme selections.
I saw multiple mentions of how the new layout felt depressing in this thread and another. I'm reading too much into people's comments? Maybe you should re-read things.
The only other person that said "depressed",apart from you,was finn......
When I see comments about how the new design could actually depress people, I scratch my head and go "Really?". You're going to let yourself get depressed by something this trivial? I get that there are people who don't like the new color scheme but that seems like making a mountain out of an ant hill.
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Nobody said that the new design could "actually depress people".
However, I'm not gonna be drawn into an argument about this. You've already had a rather pointless one with skark in this thread. I'll let you have the last word.....I know you need that.
At first i want to say the "Forum" does not refer to Champions enough in a "desing point of view"... what i mean is Champions is a colorful game wich has a wide variety of things to do and to see.. while the forums look just Grey and depressing.
However, I'm not gonna be drawn into an argument about this. You've already had a rather pointless one with skark in this thread. I'll let you have the last word.....I know you need that.
For some perspective, we lost Necrull, some yellow-orange accents, and got a slightly lighter, desaturated background to fit the new arcgames.com art style.
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I prefered the Dark Blue Background with Orange Letters it fit CO very well
... Now this 50 Shades of Grey look really Depressing for a Colorful game like CO...
BLEH!
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I prefered the Dark Blue Background with Orange Letters it fit CO very well
... Now this 50 Shades of Grey look really Depressing for a Colorful game like CO...
BLEH!
Why did you have to mention that trashy book? Now on top of getting headaches from this forum for too long, i'll be thinking of that name and get even more headaches smashing my head against the walls >.<
For some perspective, we lost Necrull, some yellow-orange accents, and got a slightly lighter, desaturated background to fit the new arcgames.com art style.
That's okay.. i can't find the report button with this new layout...
Who is Necrull?
We didn't have a report button in the old layout but from what I've been told it's possible to get that functionality added to this archaic software now. However, the web engineers have been apparently too busy with other things this past year to get around to it.
Necrull was the guy who greeted us at the top of the page every day until he took a layout to the everything.
To be honest since the change ive only read this topic i made due to the fact i dislike the forums now... and no im not getting on my knees and install addons i would only have to use for this forum...it was pushed on us .. no one was asked if we are okay with the change or how we want our forums look like in the future...
what i mean is that the community-opinion seems to mean nothing to the web-designers of this forum...
and ARC is not the Official Website... since the official website is PWE (( publisher )) ...arc is a product published PWE but ARC is not the official website....
Despressing: what i mean with that is that i find it depressing that i play a colorful and cool game like champions and the forums looks like something dull, cold and boring...
when i wake up and go to the forums to check for news i find myself confronted with that COLD, DULL and heartless desing... dosent make me want to play champs..it rather makes me want to get in a tank and cause some chaos....or play a shooter game..lol
And again im not going to deal with is.. once this thread is over ill just avoid the forums and the website because i dont want^^
There are already people who didnt use the forums long time before the 2 changes and soem left because of the first change...and if there are more people who leave the forums then they will be even less populated.. sad story.. but hey.. its fits thw design...
There are already people who didnt use the forums long time before the 2 changes and soem left because of the first change...and if there are more people who leave the forums then they will be even less populated.. sad story.. but hey.. its fits thw design...
Dude, i don't even do alerts. but thanks for the clearly very detailed answer to my question.. sarcasm btw.. clearly you don't know who necrull is either from your own alerts fest you accuse others of blindly.
what i mean is that many people in rencen ive spoken to said they ever go to forums.. and the new ugly design and missleading link makes it not more inviting..
english is not may native language maybe i cant find the right words to tell you what i mean
Honestly, in a couple weeks no one will even notice that the changes happened. Everyone will get used to it, and screenshots of the old style forums will be relished and treated as ancient artifacts.
The same hullabaloo happened with the first forum change, nobody gave a crap a couple weeks later. Remember when the minimap in the game was round? Explosions of atomic proportions happened when they turned it into a square. Now no one gives a dump.
Long story short, who cares, you'll get used to it.
I miss the old maps. For one thing you could zoom in and out more. You could see the entire map by zooming out. These days I think we have less then half of the zoom we once had.
Sometimes I see the new look (which is, to me, horrid) and sometimes I see the old look. Something is broken. :biggrin:
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I miss the old maps. For one thing you could zoom in and out more. You could see the entire map by zooming out. These days I think we have less then half of the zoom we once had.
Well, that's an unfortunate bug, but it has nothing to do with the shape of the minimap.
Round minimaps are icky. Icky! Square ones fit nicely into the corner. Where they belong. The square also doesn't have all of that pointless chrome around it.
Although, options would be better. Like the option to have eye pleasing forums.
Honestly, in a couple weeks no one will even notice that the changes happened. Everyone will get used to it, and screenshots of the old style forums will be relished and treated as ancient artifacts.
The same hullabaloo happened with the first forum change, nobody gave a crap a couple weeks later. Remember when the minimap in the game was round? Explosions of atomic proportions happened when they turned it into a square. Now no one gives a dump.
Long story short, who cares, you'll get used to it.
Well its because people will deal with anything for whatever reason...
mayb champions tehgame is just to awesoem to stay mad at specific things...because... well i think im addicted to champs..lol
Honestly, in a couple weeks no one will even notice that the changes happened. Everyone will get used to it, and screenshots of the old style forums will be relished and treated as ancient artifacts.
The same hullabaloo happened with the first forum change, nobody gave a crap a couple weeks later. Remember when the minimap in the game was round? Explosions of atomic proportions happened when they turned it into a square. Now no one gives a dump.
Long story short, who cares, you'll get used to it.
Some did and do care, that is why people make post like this one. There just wasn't and still isn't anything that can be done about it. PW/Cryptic has made it clear that they will make these bad design changes regardless of what people think or say.
Dude, i don't even do alerts. but thanks for the clearly very detailed answer to my question.. sarcasm btw.. clearly you don't know who necrull is either from your own alerts fest you accuse others of blindly.
Aaaaaaand we've entered that phase of the thread. All right everybody, time to get wildly offended at everything!
Honestly, in a couple weeks no one will even notice that the changes happened. Everyone will get used to it, and screenshots of the old style forums will be relished and treated as ancient artifacts.
The same hullabaloo happened with the first forum change, nobody gave a crap a couple weeks later. Remember when the minimap in the game was round? Explosions of atomic proportions happened when they turned it into a square. Now no one gives a dump.
Long story short, who cares, you'll get used to it.
Well, there was the old boards ease of use of image files. Still miss that.
I miss the old maps. For one thing you could zoom in and out more. You could see the entire map by zooming out. These days I think we have less then half of the zoom we once had.
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THIS.
Edit - I see you've already address this. Well, as Emily Litella used to say, "Never mind."
Aaaaaaand we've entered that phase of the thread. All right everybody, time to get wildly offended at everything!
This statement is highly offensive!!!
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THAT'S the advertising. That IS the point of the "under one umbrella", is it not? To "expose" people to other PWE games to get them to play them, too?
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Actually, Jerax didn't say anything of the sort mate.
The first mention of "depressed" in this thread was by Jenny accusing Jerax of saying it, but it never happened.
Maybe reading too much into peoples comments.
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Except that I didn't accuse Jerax specifically in the first place...so don't put words in my mouth.
I saw multiple mentions of how the new layout felt depressing in this thread and another. I'm reading too much into people's comments? Maybe you should re-read things.
The official site that is linked on the top of the page (and the linked champions page from arc) is as generic looking as the forums, which is no longer just a Champions focused idea. Sure the perfect world page looks like Champs should, but I see no reason why they had to change this page. It wouldn't drive away current players or necessarily prevent new players from seeing the game, but this simple layout and almost monotone color scheme feels... way too much like internet html 101 versus a forum that's been in existence for a long time about a comic styled game.
Personally it is a tad hard to read, everything being one color text wise (or really close to it) means that what should be attention grabbing titles and information is now just blended into everything else. I feel it's a poor move to change the former look into this one, it's a loss for the sake of company conformity.
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I disagree on the "tad hard to read" part, and this is coming from someone who's had myopia and astigmatism since childhood. If anything, one color text just makes things less distracting. Anyway I've already been criticized for ignoring possible types of vision impairments so I don't really want to continue with that.
If the color scheme is making things hard to read then I'd suggest using the browser addons in the links that I posted previously. If it's simply a matter of color preference then there's nothing else left to do but adapt if they aren't going to give us actual color scheme selections.
The only other person that said "depressed",apart from you,was finn......
I'm pretty sure he was joking. Don't you agree?
So, who were you accusing when you said.....
....and....
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Nobody said that the new design could "actually depress people".
However, I'm not gonna be drawn into an argument about this. You've already had a rather pointless one with skark in this thread. I'll let you have the last word.....I know you need that.
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Uh huh.
Don't harp on me about reading "too much" into people's comments when you obviously didn't bother to read things through properly.
Also, I knew Finn was joking. I'm not an idiot.
So why start in the first place? :rolleyes:
But the colors are bland and lifeless. I prefer my forums of choice to at least look vibrant and pleasant.
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I echo this sentiment....especially for a superhero MMO. I'd love to properly see the beautiful, gleaming art deco buildings of RenCen.
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Neverwinter's forum theme is BLOOD RED.
They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends / Gonna last with you longer than your friends
... Now this 50 Shades of Grey look really Depressing for a Colorful game like CO...
BLEH!
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Why did you have to mention that trashy book? Now on top of getting headaches from this forum for too long, i'll be thinking of that name and get even more headaches smashing my head against the walls >.<
I still see Necrull at the top of the page...
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Ctrl+F5 will kill Necrull
inb4 I'm banned for giving away cheat codes
That's okay.. i can't find the report button with this new layout...
Who is Necrull?
We didn't have a report button in the old layout but from what I've been told it's possible to get that functionality added to this archaic software now. However, the web engineers have been apparently too busy with other things this past year to get around to it.
Necrull was the guy who greeted us at the top of the page every day until he took a layout to the everything.
Dude.
Run some non alert content.
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what i mean is that the community-opinion seems to mean nothing to the web-designers of this forum...
and ARC is not the Official Website... since the official website is PWE (( publisher )) ...arc is a product published PWE but ARC is not the official website....
Despressing: what i mean with that is that i find it depressing that i play a colorful and cool game like champions and the forums looks like something dull, cold and boring...
when i wake up and go to the forums to check for news i find myself confronted with that COLD, DULL and heartless desing... dosent make me want to play champs..it rather makes me want to get in a tank and cause some chaos....or play a shooter game..lol
And again im not going to deal with is.. once this thread is over ill just avoid the forums and the website because i dont want^^
There are already people who didnt use the forums long time before the 2 changes and soem left because of the first change...and if there are more people who leave the forums then they will be even less populated.. sad story.. but hey.. its fits thw design...
Oh irony... :biggrin:
You are complaining about comic sans font, yet you are plaiyng a comic game.
Oh irony... :biggrin:
You have got to be kidding me.
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Dude, i don't even do alerts. but thanks for the clearly very detailed answer to my question.. sarcasm btw.. clearly you don't know who necrull is either from your own alerts fest you accuse others of blindly.
what i mean is that many people in rencen ive spoken to said they ever go to forums.. and the new ugly design and missleading link makes it not more inviting..
english is not may native language maybe i cant find the right words to tell you what i mean
And yet, this font actually is not used in comic books.
http://sixrevisions.com/graphics-design/comic-sans-the-font-everyone-loves-to-hate/
http://kleinletters.com/Blog/comic-sans-font-examined/
Yeah, I can't take seriously your complains.
You are pointing at visually dubious and unreadable forums with use of visually dubious and unreadable fonts. Paradox.
The same hullabaloo happened with the first forum change, nobody gave a crap a couple weeks later. Remember when the minimap in the game was round? Explosions of atomic proportions happened when they turned it into a square. Now no one gives a dump.
Long story short, who cares, you'll get used to it.
"There is only one way to support a PFF tank: Send Cyrone lots of money weekly... because he's the only one to successfully be a true PFF Tank." - chuckwolf
Well, that's an unfortunate bug, but it has nothing to do with the shape of the minimap.
This is what I'm talking about:
Although, options would be better. Like the option to have eye pleasing forums.
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Well its because people will deal with anything for whatever reason...
mayb champions tehgame is just to awesoem to stay mad at specific things...because... well i think im addicted to champs..lol
Some did and do care, that is why people make post like this one. There just wasn't and still isn't anything that can be done about it. PW/Cryptic has made it clear that they will make these bad design changes regardless of what people think or say.
Aaaaaaand we've entered that phase of the thread. All right everybody, time to get wildly offended at everything!
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It's called adapting. I hear that human beings can be quite good at that.
Sure seems like it.
Cannot speak for another player, but, I noticed under the Cookie Policy, it does describe that ARC is using Advertising cookies.
Well, there was the old boards ease of use of image files. Still miss that.
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THIS.
Edit - I see you've already address this. Well, as Emily Litella used to say, "Never mind."
Pft, he started it.
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there is a difference ... adapting and eating everything up are two different things...
Eating everything up is another thing that has helped humans ascend to the top of the food chain. Literally.
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haha nice one =P
still some people could use spine (( wich also helped our evolution )):D
Back spine? as opposed to front spine? or side spine?