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You're vastly exaggerating the benefits of a cloaking device. There are numerous drawbacks to the tech, even in the 25th century. As much an advantage as having a cloak COULD be, having it on a cutting edge cruiser is more so. As a side note, we have no reason to believe that the D7s have singularity cores. Even the Tail…
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Best option would seem to be using the Flotilla, and saying the Lleiset isn't the Lleiset.
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Heck, Section 31 managed to develop a PHASING cloak in just under 20 years, without anyone in the Federation not directly involved being the wiser. Cloak may be effective when used well, but so are defensive screens and phaser arrays. The "who" is just as important as the "how".
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Heck, we have similar going on right now in the US Army. Big Army wants to get rid of the Kiowa Warrior in South Korea. Without a new VTOL to replace it with, they were considering moving Blackhawks from the National Guard. Only thing that's stymied it is that the Kiowa and Blackhawk's support structure is different enough…
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JJ Abrams' hand is heavy in it. Gotta have enough Red Matter to create 100% lens flare.
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From what I gather, the Jellyfish already existed, as did the Red Matter Device. Was just a matter of Spock taking them, and then warping to Hobus.
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What I meant by "set piece". Long standing tradition in Trek to use existing sets for new locales. :)
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Doubtful. The Federation/Klingon Peace Treaty came about from the Kitomer Accords, which happened after the Tomed Incident leading to the Treaty of Algeron. Prior to Kitomer and Narendra III, the Federation and Klingons were at war again, and by that note, the Federation and RSE were at war prior to the Tomed Incident,…
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My ig ID is the same as the forums, if anyone's wanting once comms are back online.
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So what are some other "neutral" areas that Romulans of either faction can frequent? There are enough RSE RPers out there that I can certainly understand why the Flotilla and Mol'Rihann would be undesirable, unless we were using them as set-pieces for an unrelated neutral spot.
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Oh! Purely because "Neutral Zone" is on TV right now. Worf "Captain! They are Romulans. They are without honor. They killed my parents in a cowardly attack on Kitomer, when we were supposed to be allies."
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You sure have a funny way of showing your "friendship." If unsupported public accusations are how you show your loyalty and friendship, it's certainly not something I'll be seeking.
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If they're waving D7s in the Klingons' face, why were they part of a home defense fleet on the Federation Neutral Zone?
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Except you're trying to hurt them. I have no particular allegiance to either of you. I'm casual at best, and only recently started playing in earnest. But where I'm from, you either put up, or shut up.
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Your arguments have all been from a "canon" standpoint. Why would they put the cloak, admittedly an advanced and effective advantage, in an outdated ship, if they had a superior ship to mount it in? Further, why use D7s at all, if they were able to field an in-house equivalent? Utilizing D7s over native technology means…
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To be fair, you're not putting forward any facts yourself. Just casting aspersions. If you HAVE facts, I'd certainly be interested. You also claim no time to debate with Protogoth, but you also keep responding.
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That's true as of TNG/DS9. That's not true in TOS. The D7 and Connie were on equal footing. The T'Liss was not, per Scottie and the Romulan Crewmen in "Balance of Terror". As well, the "better" cloak the Romulans installed on their D7s is a much bigger advantage because of it. Instead of the first gen cloak on an inferior…
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So! Back to its' original course and speed. How active is Tal'Diann's Fed component on the RP front? I'm shopping around for my new Delta Recruit Romulan.
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Real world militaries and governments exchange tech and resources all the time. I again stress my previous mention of the Romulans apparently lacking any heavier vessels at the time. Exchanging the tech behind the T'Liss' cloak for ready-to-field battle cruisers would be a boon for the RSE. Especially since, according to…
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Agreed. Despite how spirited some of this has gotten, this has been an entirely civil exchanging of opinion.
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I know on the RR side of things, NPCs at Khitomer mention the previous Alliance against the Federation as a reason to accept the Republic as an ally. That implies to me, at least as far as STO's concerned, that the Alliance was not referring to TUC's three-way truce.
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Isn't the Alliance mentioned by the NPCs in both the KDF and RR intro arcs?
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No means no. Especially when it's punctuated by N'Vok's plasma pistol.
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Odd. Memory Alpha cites the studio wanting to get their money's worth out of the D7. Not the T'Liss being stolen. Have also often heard a story about a studio fire wrecking numerous props, including the T'Liss. ::shrugs::
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I could see it, actually. By all accounts, the TOS bird-of-prey was an inferior ship, aside from its' cloak and plasma weapon. The D7 would give them a proper cruiser for a fleet that otherwise had glorified patrolboats as flagships. Fully operational, kitted cruisers aren't exactly cheap or quick to come by.
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Forgot the Pathfinder. Fed has an embarrassing amount of riches when it comes to Science vessels.
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Or team with an Engineer. They get an option to just automatically disarm them, no wires.
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Should also allow the T'Varo, for our Romulan friends.
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All I need to know is when. Can run in a Miranda, Connie refit, or Oberth.
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You can exactly duplicate the Suliban you interact with at the Helix in the RR campaign, still.