The planet was originally settled by D&D larpers, whose society has carried through that theme. This is why those items are named as if they were D&D magic items - they are, in fact, just regular technology with fancy names.
The chief engineer of the Cerritos is from that world's royal family; by their rather weird laws, if he ever has sex, he will have to return to his world and take up his duties as king. Fortunately for him, he's either demi- or asexual, and thus hasn't fallen for any of his mother's attempts to have someone seduce him so she can retire.
The ship seen here was apparently the vessel of the royal family; at least, it was the one his mother used when she tried to fake her own death in order to force him to go perform his, er, royal duties. (That one was foiled by Rutherford's engineering knowledge and Mariner's tendency to go rogue.)
Not a fan. Also why I'm not a fan of animated stuff in Trek in general. It's so silly.
What's next, a kit module that beams in Pikachu's as security escorts?
Yet you didn't bat an eye at either the Pig People or the salt vampires or the Space Zombies or the three legged bugs from an alternate dimension.
Fascinating.
I considered those creations unique enough. And more sci-fi than fantasy, which I consider dragons to be.
Not a fan of McCaffrey's Pern novels, then? The ones that take place on a misplaced colony world that genetically engineered large, sapient versions of the small flying lizards native to Pern, so that they could use them as an easily-replaced defense against the hostile spores flung off the rogue planet with the eccentric orbit? The only parts there that aren't pretty much hard science are the psionic abilities, which also exist in Trek. (Telepathic links between high-psi humans and dragons, teleportation, and some mild psychokinesis - the Platonians wouldn't find them remarkable at all.)
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Not a fan. Also why I'm not a fan of animated stuff in Trek in general. It's so silly.
What's next, a kit module that beams in Pikachu's as security escorts?
Yet you didn't bat an eye at either the Pig People or the salt vampires or the Space Zombies or the three legged bugs from an alternate dimension.
Fascinating.
I considered those creations unique enough. And more sci-fi than fantasy, which I consider dragons to be.
Not a fan of McCaffrey's Pern novels, then? The ones that take place on a misplaced colony world that genetically engineered large, sapient versions of the small flying lizards native to Pern, so that they could use them as an easily-replaced defense against the hostile spores flung off the rogue planet with the eccentric orbit? The only parts there that aren't pretty much hard science are the psionic abilities, which also exist in Trek. (Telepathic links between high-psi humans and dragons, teleportation, and some mild psychokinesis - the Platonians wouldn't find them remarkable at all.)
Not a fan. Also why I'm not a fan of animated stuff in Trek in general. It's so silly.
What's next, a kit module that beams in Pikachu's as security escorts?
Yet you didn't bat an eye at either the Pig People or the salt vampires or the Space Zombies or the three legged bugs from an alternate dimension.
Fascinating.
I considered those creations unique enough. And more sci-fi than fantasy, which I consider dragons to be.
Not a fan of McCaffrey's Pern novels, then? The ones that take place on a misplaced colony world that genetically engineered large, sapient versions of the small flying lizards native to Pern, so that they could use them as an easily-replaced defense against the hostile spores flung off the rogue planet with the eccentric orbit? The only parts there that aren't pretty much hard science are the psionic abilities, which also exist in Trek. (Telepathic links between high-psi humans and dragons, teleportation, and some mild psychokinesis - the Platonians wouldn't find them remarkable at all.)
I don't really read novels to be honest.
You don't have to read novels to find non-silly examples of the idea, for instance Babylon5 had the Technomage Order which was an elusive sect of extremely skilled hackers, psionics, and scientists who couched their advanced tech in mystic terms though under the hood it was still science. There are fairly strong hints that the mystic stuff may have been adopted as smoke and mirrors to conceal that they actually used a certain amount of Shadow tech after the previous Shadow war when anything having to do with the Shadows was considered anathema.
TOS itself even has a few examples where people have forgotten (or never knew) that the "mystic" stuff they used was actually highly advanced technology, though most of them just used existing tech artifacts without being able to actually maintain and improve it the way the Hysperians do.
Personally, I find the concept interesting and a bit nostalgic since I used to play a TSR tabletop game called "Once and Future King" which is pretty much the same idea (in this case some kind of error introduced Arthurian stories into the core programming/data of the AI that kept society going and it started reshaping society (often using subliminals and other sneaky techniques) so over time it developed into the same sort of situation as Hysperia has though without the Lower Decks often-silly humor).
Not a fan of McCaffrey's Pern novels, then? The ones that take place on a misplaced colony world that genetically engineered large, sapient versions of the small flying lizards native to Pern, so that they could use them as an easily-replaced defense against the hostile spores flung off the rogue planet with the eccentric orbit? The only parts there that aren't pretty much hard science are the psionic abilities, which also exist in Trek. (Telepathic links between high-psi humans and dragons, teleportation, and some mild psychokinesis - the Platonians wouldn't find them remarkable at all.)
Actually, in the novel Dragonsdawn, we find out that the original colonists went to Pern specifically because it was habitable. They just didn't know about the Rogue planet and the threat of Thread. And if I remember correctly the Dragonets were quite intelligent, the impressed ones working with wild ones to protect a house with a pregnant woman in one instance. When they made the Dragons they were still somewhat small, but by the time of the main trilogy we saw a Queen, Ramoth, reach the size of an L-1011 passenger liner.
Yea I read a few of them, and enjoyed them. Was kinda interesting seeing a sci-fi take on fantasy stuff. And HOW the Dragons breathed fire was interesting.
Creatures breathing fire isn't that interesting - we've had artificial means of doing so for thousands of years, so there's no reason it can't exist in nature too.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
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Creatures breathing fire isn't that interesting - we've had artificial means of doing so for thousands of years, so there's no reason it can't exist in nature too.
Most fantasy interpretations don't require the Dragon to chew up mineral rich rock to do so. Most just do it, and in Reign of Fire I believe the fire breath was more akin to real flamethrowers.
Dragonriders of Pern has "Firestone", which they need to chew and swallow to produce the flamable gasses they need to breath fire.
if it works with tholian warp core, it can change the dew sci builds with this trait and it depends on what the console will more then likely make its way to the top lineup aswell. i like it.
It's pretty strange really, how event ships seem to always, even if by mistake, change the consensus for certain builds and i think this one is no different.
Not a fan of McCaffrey's Pern novels, then? The ones that take place on a misplaced colony world that genetically engineered large, sapient versions of the small flying lizards native to Pern, so that they could use them as an easily-replaced defense against the hostile spores flung off the rogue planet with the eccentric orbit? The only parts there that aren't pretty much hard science are the psionic abilities, which also exist in Trek. (Telepathic links between high-psi humans and dragons, teleportation, and some mild psychokinesis - the Platonians wouldn't find them remarkable at all.)
Actually, in the novel Dragonsdawn, we find out that the original colonists went to Pern specifically because it was habitable. They just didn't know about the Rogue planet and the threat of Thread. And if I remember correctly the Dragonets were quite intelligent, the impressed ones working with wild ones to protect a house with a pregnant woman in one instance. When they made the Dragons they were still somewhat small, but by the time of the main trilogy we saw a Queen, Ramoth, reach the size of an L-1011 passenger liner.
Yea I read a few of them, and enjoyed them. Was kinda interesting seeing a sci-fi take on fantasy stuff. And HOW the Dragons breathed fire was interesting.
By "misplaced", I meant that the central authority on Earth had kind of lost track of them (I think there was supposed to have been an interstellar war or something); when a survey ship found them again, some time after the events of The White Dragon, the crew was surprised because they didn't think it was possible for people to survive that long with Threadfall.
And phosphine (phosphorus trihydride) is a gas which is so extremely flammable it's been known to ignite on contact with air, so its use by the dragons (and their dragonet ancestors) is plausible. (It's also highly toxic, which is why dragons are encouraged to empty their ash-pouches outside the weyr.)
Besides the ship itself, the console will be a nice addition to my Klingon captain's Fek'Ihri carrier flameboat of DOOM
Was actually thinking it would be nice with that. Hopefully it is not locked to the ship
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
By "misplaced", I meant that the central authority on Earth had kind of lost track of them (I think there was supposed to have been an interstellar war or something); when a survey ship found them again, some time after the events of The White Dragon, the crew was surprised because they didn't think it was possible for people to survive that long with Threadfall.
I suppose that's true. I kinda got the sense that the colony was kinda on its own from the get go. And I think Admiral Paul Benden was a war veteran himself when the Pern colony was established.
Not a fan. Also why I'm not a fan of animated stuff in Trek in general. It's so silly.
What's next, a kit module that beams in Pikachu's as security escorts?
Don't Dis the 'Chu
^
I would be very tempted to use it on my Electricity themed build.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
Not a fan. Also why I'm not a fan of animated stuff in Trek in general. It's so silly.
What's next, a kit module that beams in Pikachu's as security escorts?
Don't Dis the 'Chu
^
I second this Pikachu is to be respected, if you disrespect Pikachu, you also disrespect Pokemon fans, while we're on the Topic of Pokemon, under the Right circumstances even a Magikarp can solo a team of legendaries, I've seen it in a video from 14 years ago,
Also we're getting Off Topic this Ship is nice, Now show me the Bridge, hopefully it's Medieval Themed with the Captain Chair being a Throne.
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What's next, a kit module that beams in Pikachu's as security escorts?
The chief engineer of the Cerritos is from that world's royal family; by their rather weird laws, if he ever has sex, he will have to return to his world and take up his duties as king. Fortunately for him, he's either demi- or asexual, and thus hasn't fallen for any of his mother's attempts to have someone seduce him so she can retire.
The ship seen here was apparently the vessel of the royal family; at least, it was the one his mother used when she tried to fake her own death in order to force him to go perform his, er, royal duties. (That one was foiled by Rutherford's engineering knowledge and Mariner's tendency to go rogue.)
Yet you didn't bat an eye at either the Pig People or the salt vampires or the Space Zombies or the three legged bugs from an alternate dimension.
Fascinating.
Try watching Zillion, the whole series is on Youtube. You might like it. Not all anime is 'cutey wootsey'.
I considered those creations unique enough. And more sci-fi than fantasy, which I consider dragons to be.
Any technology sufficiently advanced to your own can be mistaken for magic.
I mean, I'm kind of with you on this one. I'd like to keep the "trek" in Star Trek, and leave everything else out of it.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
I don't really read novels to be honest.
You don't have to read novels to find non-silly examples of the idea, for instance Babylon5 had the Technomage Order which was an elusive sect of extremely skilled hackers, psionics, and scientists who couched their advanced tech in mystic terms though under the hood it was still science. There are fairly strong hints that the mystic stuff may have been adopted as smoke and mirrors to conceal that they actually used a certain amount of Shadow tech after the previous Shadow war when anything having to do with the Shadows was considered anathema.
TOS itself even has a few examples where people have forgotten (or never knew) that the "mystic" stuff they used was actually highly advanced technology, though most of them just used existing tech artifacts without being able to actually maintain and improve it the way the Hysperians do.
Personally, I find the concept interesting and a bit nostalgic since I used to play a TSR tabletop game called "Once and Future King" which is pretty much the same idea (in this case some kind of error introduced Arthurian stories into the core programming/data of the AI that kept society going and it started reshaping society (often using subliminals and other sneaky techniques) so over time it developed into the same sort of situation as Hysperia has though without the Lower Decks often-silly humor).
Don't Dis the 'Chu
Actually, in the novel Dragonsdawn, we find out that the original colonists went to Pern specifically because it was habitable. They just didn't know about the Rogue planet and the threat of Thread. And if I remember correctly the Dragonets were quite intelligent, the impressed ones working with wild ones to protect a house with a pregnant woman in one instance. When they made the Dragons they were still somewhat small, but by the time of the main trilogy we saw a Queen, Ramoth, reach the size of an L-1011 passenger liner.
Yea I read a few of them, and enjoyed them. Was kinda interesting seeing a sci-fi take on fantasy stuff. And HOW the Dragons breathed fire was interesting.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Most fantasy interpretations don't require the Dragon to chew up mineral rich rock to do so. Most just do it, and in Reign of Fire I believe the fire breath was more akin to real flamethrowers.
Dragonriders of Pern has "Firestone", which they need to chew and swallow to produce the flamable gasses they need to breath fire.
It's pretty strange really, how event ships seem to always, even if by mistake, change the consensus for certain builds and i think this one is no different.
And phosphine (phosphorus trihydride) is a gas which is so extremely flammable it's been known to ignite on contact with air, so its use by the dragons (and their dragonet ancestors) is plausible. (It's also highly toxic, which is why dragons are encouraged to empty their ash-pouches outside the weyr.)
Was actually thinking it would be nice with that. Hopefully it is not locked to the ship
^
I suppose that's true. I kinda got the sense that the colony was kinda on its own from the get go. And I think Admiral Paul Benden was a war veteran himself when the Pern colony was established.
I would be very tempted to use it on my Electricity themed build.
Q:"Am I a joke to you?"
I second this Pikachu is to be respected, if you disrespect Pikachu, you also disrespect Pokemon fans, while we're on the Topic of Pokemon, under the Right circumstances even a Magikarp can solo a team of legendaries, I've seen it in a video from 14 years ago,
Also we're getting Off Topic this Ship is nice, Now show me the Bridge, hopefully it's Medieval Themed with the Captain Chair being a Throne.