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Do we know what's next for the story?

lukem2409lukem2409 Member Posts: 100 Arc User
edited July 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Now that the God awful Wesley arc is over (honestly the galaxy/universe ending threats are getting tiresome) have we any indication of where STO is headed next? A much smaller scale conflict like PREVENTING a war in a sector of space between 2 worlds would be much more welcome at this point IMO.
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    paradox#7391 paradox
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    edited March 2023
    An STO Original is next, so it's either another galaxy/universe ending threat (Like the Iconian War) or something small scale (like dealing with Orion Pirates), it's a 50/50 chance either way with STO's Devs.
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    sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 5,478 Arc User
    I think the Borg are next due to them appearing at the end of last episode. Now where they are going with that storyline I don't know.
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,348 Arc User
    lukem2409 wrote: »
    Now that the God awful Wesley arc is over (honestly the galaxy/universe ending threats are getting tiresome) have we any indication of where STO is headed next? A much smaller scale conflict like PREVENTING a war in a sector of space between 2 worlds would be much more welcome at this point IMO.

    We only have speculation, it's all we ever get till a few days before the next launch. The only snippet is the ending of the latest episode.....something, something, darkside-borg.
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    legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    edited March 2023
    Did they add something to the end of Fujiwhara Effect after I played it on release day? I remember Leeta declaring herself Empress (because of course she was going to) - I do not remember anything about Borg.​​
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    spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,266 Arc User
    edited March 2023
    legendarylycan#5411 wrote: »
    Did they add something to the end of Fujiwhara Effect after I played it on release day? I remember Leeta declaring herself Empress (because of course she was going to) - I do not remember anything about Borg.​​

    They're watching a red colored (presumably mirror) Borg cube at the end while talking about Leeta declaring herself the Empress.

    They don't show any drones or mention the Borg by name but the implications are strong there.
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    paradox#7391 paradox
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    spiritborn wrote: »
    legendarylycan#5411 wrote: »
    Did they add something to the end of Fujiwhara Effect after I played it on release day? I remember Leeta declaring herself Empress (because of course she was going to) - I do not remember anything about Borg.​​

    They're watching a red colored (presumably mirror) Borg cube at the end while talking about Leeta declaring herself the Empress.

    They don't show any drones or mention the Borg by name but the implications are strong there.

    Yeah Borg show up, also the only info we have on Mirror Borg is from Memory Beta, if STO Devs uses that info, then Mirror Borg would be enough of a challenge to put long time elite difficulty veteran players in their place,

    https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Borg_(mirror)

    https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Borg_Collective_(mirror)

    https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Borg_King
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    vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    legendarylycan#5411 wrote: »
    Did they add something to the end of Fujiwhara Effect after I played it on release day? I remember Leeta declaring herself Empress (because of course she was going to) - I do not remember anything about Borg.​​

    They're watching a red colored (presumably mirror) Borg cube at the end while talking about Leeta declaring herself the Empress.

    They don't show any drones or mention the Borg by name but the implications are strong there.

    We also know that Marshall Janeway got assimilated by the Borg at some point & rescued, as she has Seven's Borg implants in the same places.

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    whistlerdavidwhistlerdavid Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    lukem2409 wrote: »
    Now that the God awful Wesley arc is over (honestly the galaxy/universe ending threats are getting tiresome) have we any indication of where STO is headed next? A much smaller scale conflict like PREVENTING a war in a sector of space between 2 worlds would be much more welcome at this point IMO.
    sorry you didnt like it. i loved it

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    whistlerdavidwhistlerdavid Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    its clear at the end it involves the borg in some way
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    echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
    I agree that it involves the Borg. Most likely the Mirror Borg, but who knows for sure? The Devs.
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    whistlerdavidwhistlerdavid Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    echatty wrote: »
    I agree that it involves the Borg. Most likely the Mirror Borg, but who knows for sure? The Devs.

    what if the terran borg are like monks trying to spread peace by assimilating people? lol
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    paradox#7391 paradox
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    whistlerdavid wrote: »
    echatty wrote: »
    I agree that it involves the Borg. Most likely the Mirror Borg, but who knows for sure? The Devs.

    what if the terran borg are like monks trying to spread peace by assimilating people? lol

    Actually they're the complete opposite, Terran Borg makes Prime Borg look like saints in comparison, Terran Borg are more aggressive and more territorial, they will still assimilate you against your will.

    Also did nobody check out the links, I posted in this thread?
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5
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    Probably something with the Borg.

    It wouldn't surprise me if they try to make some connections to Picard's first season and the reclamation project. STO already has some content regarding Romulan experiments with Borg tech too, so maybe we'll also see mirror Sela or something like that?
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    legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    The circumstances that led to Sela's existence can't have possibly been repeated in the Mirror Universe - even if that Romulan still had a child (and was alive to have it) it very likely would've been with another Romulan, not Tasha.​​
    Like special weapons from other Star Trek games? Wondering if they can be replicated in STO even a little bit? Check this out: https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1262277/a-mostly-comprehensive-guide-to-star-trek-videogame-special-weapons-and-their-sto-equivalents

    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"

    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
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    jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,367 Arc User
    paradox#7391 wrote: »
    An STO Original is next, so it's either another galaxy/universe ending threat (Like the Iconian War) or something small scale (like dealing with Orion Pirates), it's a 50/50 chance either way with STO's Devs.
    Or steal some ideas from the Masterverse stories here in Ten Forward, and have a universe-ending threat caused by the Orions... :wink:
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    legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    Yeah, we've yet to have any real extragalactic or interdimensional threat - the Iconians were more akin to an awakened fallen empire.​​
    Like special weapons from other Star Trek games? Wondering if they can be replicated in STO even a little bit? Check this out: https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1262277/a-mostly-comprehensive-guide-to-star-trek-videogame-special-weapons-and-their-sto-equivalents

    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"

    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5
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    legendarylycan#5411 wrote: »
    The circumstances that led to Sela's existence can't have possibly been repeated in the Mirror Universe - even if that Romulan still had a child (and was alive to have it) it very likely would've been with another Romulan, not Tasha.​​

    I've never watched much of TNG, so I'll just accept this.

    Mirror Hakeev then.
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5
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    No, wait. I've got an even better idea.

    Mirror Caeliar!
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    lazarus51166lazarus51166 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    sthe91 wrote: »
    I think the Borg are next due to them appearing at the end of last episode. Now where they are going with that storyline I don't know.
    No, that wouldn't make any sense at all. That would just be another terran story as that scene took place in the mirror universe, it was specifically showing what the terrans were up to. They already said that whatever is next it wasn't going to be terran related, so thats out

    That said the whole galaxing ending threat is starting to get played out. At this point with the number of said threats that have hit within the last 18 months in game time you'd think there wouldn't be anybody left to fight another large scale threat with all the losses that must have been taken at this point
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5
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    lazarus51166 wrote: »
    sthe91 wrote: »
    I think the Borg are next due to them appearing at the end of last episode. Now where they are going with that storyline I don't know.
    No, that wouldn't make any sense at all. That would just be another terran story as that scene took place in the mirror universe, it was specifically showing what the terrans were up to. They already said that whatever is next it wasn't going to be terran related, so thats out

    That said the whole galaxing ending threat is starting to get played out. At this point with the number of said threats that have hit within the last 18 months in game time you'd think there wouldn't be anybody left to fight another large scale threat with all the losses that must have been taken at this point

    Still, they probably wouldn't have shown the Borg at the end of the episode if there wasn't any reason to.

    The Borg doing something in the Mirror universe (or the Terran Empire doing something to the Borg there) doesn't have to mean that we're getting a mirror universe story.

    It could just be that the Borg are up to something there - but that whatever they're doing there is not exclusive(ly done) to (/in) the MU.

    Maybe they assimilated something spore-related. Or, who knows. Maybe they can perceive other universes as well as alternate timelines. Marshall Janeway and Mirror Leeta might just have been looking at something that we'll soon be looking at too, in our own universe.
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    whistlerdavidwhistlerdavid Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    paradox#7391 wrote: »
    whistlerdavid wrote: »
    echatty wrote: »
    I agree that it involves the Borg. Most likely the Mirror Borg, but who knows for sure? The Devs.

    what if the terran borg are like monks trying to spread peace by assimilating people? lol

    Actually they're the complete opposite, Terran Borg makes Prime Borg look like saints in comparison, Terran Borg are more aggressive and more territorial, they will still assimilate you against your will.

    Also did nobody check out the links, I posted in this thread?
    just read it. for me seems like this is going to be very fun. i love the idea of making them hard again
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    blackwinghaseo01#8510 blackwinghaseo01
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    At this point it can be anything, it could be Picard related, 32c Disco related, SNW (Strange New Worlds) related and the upcoming Section 31 related.
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    whistlerdavidwhistlerdavid Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited March 2023
    after reading a lot of the comments it seems like people did not stick around for the very end. leeta,janeway and the inquisitor were looking out the window at a redish borg cube. though i think the red might have just been a tractor beam. so many of the comments are talking about story lines that have nothing to do with whats going on
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    michael#8928 michael
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    I felt like the Borg tease at the end of the last episode was a teaser for what's to come eventually, but not necessarily next. I feel like we'll leave the Terrans alone for a bit while the story goes elsewhere. But at some point, we'll revisit it. I think whatever the Terrans are up to with the Borg is going to go horribly wrong and have consequences for our universe and we'll have to team up again. While it all leads to the horribly wrong event in the Terran universe, we'll be busy with some other story line.

    Just my thought.
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    paradox#7391 paradox
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    michael#8928 wrote: »
    I felt like the Borg tease at the end of the last episode was a teaser for what's to come eventually, but not necessarily next. I feel like we'll leave the Terrans alone for a bit while the story goes elsewhere. But at some point, we'll revisit it. I think whatever the Terrans are up to with the Borg is going to go horribly wrong and have consequences for our universe and we'll have to team up again. While it all leads to the horribly wrong event in the Terran universe, we'll be busy with some other story line.

    Just my thought.

    I doubt it, the MU has Mirror Me to defend it, If they're as powerful as My Character than any threat to the Terran Empire would be instantly one-shotted by that One Man Army.
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    lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,825 Arc User
    edited March 2023
    fleetcaptain5#1134 wrote: »
    legendarylycan#5411 wrote: »
    The circumstances that led to Sela's existence can't have possibly been repeated in the Mirror Universe - even if that Romulan still had a child (and was alive to have it) it very likely would've been with another Romulan, not Tasha.​​

    I've never watched much of TNG, so I'll just accept this.

    Mirror Hakeev then.

    Long story short, Sela was born because of some temporal high jinks that involved the Enterprise C coming to aid a Klingon outpost...in that era terrans wouldn't be in any kind of power so just no way it could likely happen. Next to nothing is known about the mirror Romulans, so just mo way to imagine a mirror Sela being born
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,040 Community Moderator
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Long story short, Sela was born because of some temporal high jinks that involved the Enterprise C coming to aid a Klingon outpost...in that era terrans wouldn't be in any kind of power so just no way it could likely happen. Next to nothing is known about the mirror Romulans, so just mo way to imagine a mirror Sela being born

    I'd have to agree. If there is a Sela... it wouldn't be the Sela we know. She might be a full blood Romulan Brunette.

    We do have one possible tidbit though, at least in game. The A.R.W. prefix that came with the Mirror Romulan ships. We know that the Mirror Klingon ships came with an A.K.S. prefix, and we know of the existence of the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance. Could the Mirror Romulans be a part of the Alliance?

    Outside STO there was only one other mention of the Mirror Romulans, and that was from the PS2 game Star Trek Shattered Universe. The ISS Excelsior, under the control of Prime Sulu and his crew, had to venture through Romulan territory on their way to get back home. I think it was the Romulan Confederation in that game.
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    legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    The only way I could see Sela STILL being born as she was in the Prime Universe is if the ISS Enterprise C was defending their own colony against a Romulan attack instead of a Klingon one - they miscalculated the strength of the force sent against them, temporal shenanigans happen, the mirror C follows the same path the prime did, gets sent back +1 mirror Tasha by the mirror D, C gets captured as in prime and so on and so forth.

    Same exceedingly unlikely series of events, just slight alteration to fit the Terran Empire as opposed to the Federation.​​
    Like special weapons from other Star Trek games? Wondering if they can be replicated in STO even a little bit? Check this out: https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1262277/a-mostly-comprehensive-guide-to-star-trek-videogame-special-weapons-and-their-sto-equivalents

    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"

    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
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    qultuqqultuq Member Posts: 988 Arc User
    > @legendarylycan#5411 said:
    > The only way I could see Sela STILL being born as she was in the Prime Universe is if the ISS Enterprise C was defending their own colony against a Romulan attack instead of a Klingon one - they miscalculated the strength of the force sent against them, temporal shenanigans happen, the mirror C follows the same path the prime did, gets sent back +1 mirror Tasha by the mirror D, C gets captured as in prime and so on and so forth.
    >
    > Same exceedingly unlikely series of events, just slight alteration to fit the Terran Empire as opposed to the Federation.​​

    That is the mystery or magic about the mirror universe. If it is just one static universe where they are violently killing each other off almost constantly, there is little chance that the second generation would resemble the prime universe at all. For example, if we accept that the ENT mirror universe is the same universe in TOS we already have serious continuity problems. In ENT Zephrim Cochrane kills the Vulcans that land at First Contact. T’pol is enslaved in the ENT mirror universe, but Spock is free and eventually perhaps becomes Emperor.

    If the mirror universe is a single universe and not a series of similar parallel universes that are constantly bridging off every time we observe the mirror onscreen (This is actually the more likely explanation) then the mirror must have a weird sympathetic connection to our universe. The events and people of our universe get mirrored in uncanny ways, they therefore must be allowed to reproduce in parallel situations at the same times, achieve similar ranks and status as the prime counterparts etc.
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