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Umm sure the minor updates are fine, but why change the story. Perfectly fine the way it is. Now Borg sleeper agents? Umm WTH? Since when do BORG use sleeper agents?
And an excuse to shoehorn in Janeway. Look I like the character, but she really doesn't need to be in the tutorial.
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And an excuse to shoehorn in Janeway. Look I like the character, but she really doesn't need to be in the tutorial.
What is going on around here?
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I believe the Enterprise episode Regeneration.
Enterprise chased off the assimilated ship, rescued what was believed to be two survivors, ended up with a pair of problems on board instead that almost cost them Dr. Phlox as well as part of the ship.
I thought it was a reference to the Borg sleeper cell on Vega that's always been in the Tutorial.
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Yeah, at this point they're approaching Lucas-level craziness for meddling and tinkering with their old content. There's such a thing as "too polished".
I wasn't referring to them. By the time Enterprise caught up with the Borg three days later, they were already attacking another ship, a Tarkalean freighter. Enteprise was nowhere near Earth at the time they thawed out.
I think that got muddy after the first tutorial revamp. I remember the ORIGINAL tied back into Khitomer Ground, implying there was a Borg outpost hidden under Vega Colony (The one we attack in Khitomer ground), but the first revamp made it seem more like it was just a basic Borg invasion, but also semi tied into Khitomer Space I think to explain why the Borg ships were so weak.
Just made a new character to see if it was live... It is not. my guess is it will go live when delta recruit does.
If anything I do hope they have made a new version of the opening cinematic, keep the dialogue with spock but upgrade it with a higher definition and better visuals as the original one has begun to look very dated now after all these years..
10th of may it will begin..
Yeah, i fell for that one too, they forgot to put the DATE when the new tutorial is up, not a lot of time wasted, but still..
if they can revamp a tutorial, then a new faction shouldn't be an issue.
It is an issue when you are then expected to make a whole new set of missions, ships, UI elements, and pretty much everything associated with it, then program in the choice to be Fed or KDF allied...
And as west said, what species can they do? Not only that, each faction tends to have its weapon flavor of choice. We have 4/6 represented now: Phaser (Fed), Disruptor (KDF), Plasma (Rom), and Polaron (Dom). That leaves Tetryon and AP.
I have one: the Dominion. It is not actually possible to play a canon-correct Dominion character in STO since all the officers were Vorta in the show, and they don't have them available as playable characters here.
Odo's expeditionary force is nothing but a single-race unlock and a single tutorial scenario, along with a few ships that would probably have come out anyway regardless of whether the Jem'Hadar were in the game or not. If it was not for the endgame-starting character fad that was sweeping though MMOs at the time the J'H would probably not be anything more than the Cardassians are, a paid race unlock in the c-store and the rest of the Dominion ships would probably be "found floating empty of crew, with traces of a strange radiation" like the bugships were.
And taking it from just Odo's oddball private army to a reasonable demifaction would be fairly simple considering they already have all the ships, gear, their faction energy type, the transporter effect, etc, the only thing they would need would be a male and female uniform or two for the Vorta (since it would no longer be a case of race being the indication of rank).
There is even already a starter scenario that could be easily adapted to serve both the Jem'Hadar and the Vorta starter characters (at most, it would only take a different starting cutscene and maybe some dialog changes, and an alternate for one single short section of the tutorial mission so the Vorta can use telekinesis or their ability to target things by sound rather than teaching how to use the shroud if the player is running a Vorta.
In fact, the way the player character's crew is assembled by picking up random Jem'Hadar along the way who decide to follow the character works even better for a Vorta PC than it does for a Jem'Hadar PC.
If they were to do some faction that uses Tetryon then that is a natural for a Delta faction, and it could be some kind of formalization of the Delta alliance from the Iconian war, or a subset of it. I am not sure who would be a good candidate for the AP energy, though I suppose it could be wound into that same Delta faction if they really wanted to tie up all the energies in a neat package. They could even bring proton into the mainline via the Voth that way if they wanted.
Still, I think the most straightforward and simplest thing would be to expand the "Jem''Hadar" 'faction' into a proper Dominion demifaction instead of just a numbers-and-systems player niche.
Then by all means, make one.
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I'd have to agree, Captain Janeway was the bomb, but I'd have to play the episode (haven't read or youtubed much about it) to see if there's any relevance.
And the Borg thing is a bit odd unless it's reference an episode of the new series (Political comments moderated out. BMR)
What's going to happen to the tutorial isn't a big deal. It's not as if nothing else was happenning contentwise while this was being developed.
Reminds me of back in the City of Heroes days, when people asked for Perez Park to be revamped. A dev, during her free time, had done it by herself.
When it was revealed, people complained that Perez Park shouldn't have been revamped and it was a waste of time and 'new content' should have been worked on, regardless that Perez Park was a literal deathtrap and roadblock to character level progression.
Sounds like basic human stupidity, They got what they asked for and yet it wasn't good enough for them.
Yea... we've seen similar here in STO. They revamp something players have asked to be revamped, and the pitchforks come out because "its not what we want". And then when asked what they DO want... the responses boils down to just "NOT THAT" with no actual answer to the question. Devs aren't psychic you know.
Perfect example of "can't please everyone" honestly.
At least, you could charitably say it's preparing them for the long way to warp 9+ warp cores to make trips to missions that don't have a valid auto-warp option tolerable.
Also, overall, the tutorial by itself is nice and no longer a clone to the DSC one (even if technically, the DSC was the clone of the previously-revamped Fed one), but the characters' face feels off, especially Taggart who looks like he's been drinking too much Romulan Ale these last months. And everything feels rushed, because they had to insert new stuff to existing one.
Also, the lighting of the tutorial version of the Academy in general just feels wrong.
Though, as always, I hope whoever makes cutscenes gets treated and paid very well because it's always the highlight of the current missions.