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Terran Recruit in the future?
robert
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Since this game find ways to encourage us to create new captains, I am led to believe by the end of 2023 we could get a Terran Recruit like how last year we had the Klingon Recruit. I remember someone mentioned Cryptic did not have any interest to create a Terran Faction, but I figured a Recruit is a good enough compromise.
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However, they will be running the existing ones more often.
Role Playing a Terran is one thing, but ACUTALLY playing a Terran (and everything that comes with it) is another.
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People want to play evil but don't want their own toons sidelined.
Though I appreciate they can't go too hard on Terran representation, Klingon's general MO was probably pushing it. A rating elevation would murder this game.
I wouldn't mind playing as Mirror Vulcan, they have goatees, while still being logical, they're more ruthless than their Prime counterparts, even Mirror Spock was planning to force a mind meld on an unwilling Prime Kirk, Mirror Vulcans were the very definition of Lawful Evil even though they were part of a Chaotic Evil Empire and I agree playing the Inqusitor is more fun since they're basically our characters but less genocidal, besides whatever we do, the mirror version of us seems pretty heroic in comparison.
I'm fine with that. This game needs a player villain faction.
As for the goatee, Spock is half human so the fact that he had one is inconclusive about whether full Vulcan males can grow them. The only time that any full Vulcan had one was in In a Mirror, Darkly and ENT contradicted themselves on the point since none of the other Vulcans ever had one or any other trace of a beard even in situations where they could not or would not be shaving (like in Impulse).
I liked Renegade's Regret. It definitely made it easier to play my Terran in Red Shift
Anyways, there's nothing wrong with being a Renegade Terran. In the Mirror Universe, they'd be what we in the Prime Universe call heroes
So .... maybe
Yeah, I remember when they updated the Klingon Tutorial, they eventual released the Klingon Recruit once they were done updating the KDF tutorial.
Very wise sentiment indeed.
We've all done things others (sometimes) think is wrong; yet if they knew the full truth, would be shocked to find out what really occurred. In fact it's often what inspires Q, and why many often think he's stirring up trouble, yet he's often trying to get to the heart of the matter; and yes often does help, even when it appears not to be the case. I believe that's true with Picard Season 2. Still we sometimes see on the forums misunderstanding caused, as one or both parties never seeks understanding, rather than respond with ego. It's what inspired Kael to create the how to have a discussion thread.
Still getting back on focus, Terrans have consistently shown, to have very little regard for others, or most of them the slightest concern. While there are a few very rare exceptions, like Sisko's former wife Jennifer Sisko, she still found Mirror him, "increasingly frustrated about Benjamin's attitude toward other woman." This was probably a result as the Mirror Sisko in that Universe, not his Prime Counterpart had a completely different Command Style forced more on his Ego. That not seeking to understand others, kindess, or perhaps far less empathy doesn't help! It's why most don't want to play the Villian. While Mirror Lorca played a darker Captain than many in Starfleet, still he had light tucked away similar to Sisko wife, that's the only thing that made it plausible. We'll never know the full story there, except the tiny bits revealed, such as in life as I opened the first paragraph; most only see the soundbites. Those aren't always a fair representative of whom someone is, as I eluded to with Q either.
Would I want a Mirror Counterpart, not really! I just don't see the advantage, of trying to Mirror (some) aspects of a toons look based on an existing Captain, aside from the RPG aspect of what they did with the Inquisitor. Could they instead, start a new Mirror Captain, whom may not have been born in Prime, as Jake Sisko was never born in the Mirror? Still not really sure I'd want that, unless the journey shows reform or hope, nor would I want a Confederation Faction! While a few might find it interesting to start in a darker place, before finding light, not sure we'd have the episodes and it take focus off our current Captains. Do hope they won't go there, and stick to the inquisitor story, and if he's capable of evolving or if he really is the evil twin some have earned through accolades.
I'd prefer my Captains had 'hope' alive... ...most in life get to a place that's more tolerant, some take far longer, depending how many rough edges; some face far more challenges, rightly or wrongly. Q has a dramatic flair of using the unknown, even if he comes off appearing not nice, yet I think his intent is still honorable. He also doesn't fit a Villian, he's often pushing for changes that feels uncomfortable, yet make others whom they were meant to be, even if they still have lessons to learn.
That's part of the mystery...
I suspect doing what he did to Soong, also gave enough twist for Soong to see the dangers, of some of his darker elements of his past, and come face to face with them. Soong is shown struggling in earlier video's his daughter later finds. Maybe it was just the 'right' amount to get Soong to wake up? That may have been his darker side of his genetics coming to light, before he realizes or has to face some of the more questionable choices made. Being a Geneticist (maybe that's later) how he evolves after the failure to exploring Robotics, or eventually his Ancestors (who look just like him) gives a passion for a descendant to pursue Cybernetics. All we know is how many family members appear alike, in shows including Enterprise? A Geneticist would possibly explain that element, and without Soong unique gifts and talents, despite his flaws we'd likely not later see Data?
Still only hope remains the Inquisitor, has values or feelings closer to the Tzenkethi Captain Parr; and in time, stops, or is inspired to help us stop the Emperor! Or he could be a true Evil twin, yet I hope not despite the accolade some have earned.
Regardless what your opinion is, myself I hope they don't do a Mirror/Terror mini Faction... Everyone try and have a good day!
I don't know who 'led' you to believe this, but as far as they've said, repeatedly, it's a no to villian factions.
I don't quite get it...the devs can be sure they don't make any of the missions particularly evil, and the fact that even as the "good guys" we kills thousands every day...we rarely try to negotiate, go into pretty much almost everything with phasers hot
I'm just a lowly rp'er and I've come up with ideas that can justify Terrans without them mustache twirling villains
Canon Terran society IS mustache-twirling villainy. Genocide and backstabbing are part of the job description for officers, and sapient meat is back on the table.
It would be possible to have a starter mission or two where you are defecting to the prime universe to join the federation, but creating all the trappings of a sub-faction for 1-2 episodes doesn't make much sense. TOS had a half-dozen and that felt too short.
We would also have the TOS recruit problem. People keep asking to stay/go back to those sector maps etc. If they did a Terran recruit/faction people who would want to play Terran fully would ask for their own "sector map"
Semantic nonsense, in my opinion. If people who were so against evil characters were so, no one would play Sith/Dark Jedi/etc. in Star Wars games, no one would play dark sorcerers (warlocks, necromancers, etc.)...
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People in general and Star Trek Online players are not the same thing.
Some people love to become lord of a crime organization in a game, some don't. Some people enjoy the Saw and Jackass movies, some don't. Some people love the Enterprise opening song.
Sith and Dark Jedi are probably not the best example since Star Wars, (in its expanded universe version) has shown that not all Sith or Dark Jedi are necessarily evil with characters such Mara Jade (who was a Hand, basically a type of Inquisitor), Darth Gravid who believed in altruism and empathy, Sith and Dark Jedi who still had a core of good (even Darth Vader had that) and who (like Darth Revan) found their way to the light, and other similar characters I forget the names of at the moment.
Even some of the Nightsisters gave lip service to the dark but actually followed the light in many things (for instance they worshiped the Winged Goddess, who was also known as The Daughter, the avatar of the light side), until General Grievous wiped out Talzin's faction.
A lot of players do like to play those conflicted characters who are light at heart but are of the Sith or other dark organizations and often rebel against their evil sponsors and go their own way. That sort of rising from a dark past is a part of the draw of playing Romulans, Dominion, and other similar characters too but it is far different from wanting to play an actual, actively evil villain.
Even Picard lost his cool with the Borg, despite how often composed he is--this far, no further.
Might be interesting to see how a Unique Mirror Captain, with no Prime Counterpart interacts. Yet it might also throw a twist as a new Mirror Captain, shouldn't also have a Mirror duplicate or Inquisitor.
Perhaps as we get closer over the next few weeks, we'll see a blog or two. They used to do that very effectively, with subtle hints that it didn't tip their hand, and sometimes left more questions.
So we'll likely have to wait and see...
I'll grant that being a good Sith in the Old Republic is almost as difficult as being a good officer in the Terran Empire, but at least in KOTOR 1-2-TOR it felt like there was more of a mix of good, bad, and just following orders people than in the 99.2% evil Terran empire.
And Mirror Sarek had a gotee. And after looking for a picture... so did Mirror Soval in the 22nd Century.
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Outside of the mirror universe the only Vulcans who showed signs of a beard were Spock (again, half human so it makes sense) and Sybok (I forgot about him, it was just a very forgettable muddle of a movie all around) and with Sybok it seemed to just be a knee-jerk casting choice to put in an easy generic trope without considering Trek lore in a movie riddled with errors (for example 78 decks in the turbolift shaft of a 24 deck starship, plus they were numbered backwards with deck 1 at the bottom).
Beards don't make sense for Vulcans since their world tends to be very hot and arid instead of cold and a beard would be a liability instead of a survival trait.
Humans live in desert areas, too. And 1000's of years of evolution and adaptation have not caused those peoples to not have facial hair. It gets very cold in a desert after the sun goes down, so body hair does make sense for humans and Vulcans.
And just because ST5 is an unpopular movie, doesn't discount that it is canon, and so is Sybok's beard. 😁
No, I think male Vulcans being clean shaven is probably a cultural thing and not biological. Mirror Universe Vulcans being culturally different from Prime Universe apparently approve of facial hair. 🖖
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“Vulcans and the closely related Romulans, were also capable of growing beards. Some Vulcan masters and other religious figures grew short Van Dykes or full beards. (VOY: "Gravity"; Star Trek V: The Final Frontier; Star Trek)
In 2257, Spock grew a beard while he was a fugitive. (DIS: "If Memory Serves")
In the mirror universe, Soval and Spock wore similar short Van Dykes while they were members of the Terran Empire Starfleet. (ENT: "In a Mirror, Darkly"; TOS: "Mirror, Mirror")
Sarek wore a goatee while a member of the anti-Terran rebellion. (DIS: "The Wolf Inside")
Notable male Vulcans with beards:
Spock
Sybok
Sarek (in the mirror universe)
Soval (in the mirror universe)
Spock (in the mirror universe)
Vulcan Healer of the 23rd century
Vulcan Master of the 23rd century
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Link: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Beard
The ones in the Mirror universe are playing with the mustache twirling evil thing AND we all know men with goatee beards are nefarious evil doers in real life too (don't lie, you know you are and we do too).