Stuck in space!!

aftulus
aftulus Member Posts: 668 Arc User
They have foolishtly thought we could not get ourselves stuck in space. The /stuck command does not work in a space tfo. I could not die because I'm just tanky enough. And I could not leave without punishing everyone else.

We need stuck to work in space tfo's.

I've gotten myself stuck on suns in the main map. This you can teleport away from, but you can't do this in a tfo. Or at least I can't think of a solution. getting a dev to respond takes too much time. A quick user solution with /stuck in space maps is about the only thing I can think of.

So, for this TFO I will have to stay at one of the asteroids in the Nukari tfo and kill and try to collect the ships. Luckily I'm in a kef'lhri carrier with both local fire spam and very powerful carrier pets. Otherwise that would not have gone as well.

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  • davefenestrator
    davefenestrator Member Posts: 9,790 Arc User
    edited November 2021
    I got stuck in the geometry in the Stealing the Spire TFO myself a few months ago. I can't recall if it's happened before then but I might have in the Voth ship interior.

    /stuck in TFOs should blow up your ship and start the respawn timer.
  • trillbuffet
    trillbuffet Member Posts: 861 Arc User
    I eventually over time setup all of my characters ground and space with everything I need just in case I get into that position. Basically, this game a large portion of it are abilities just to get you out of this situation which is really sad. Basically what you do is slowly over time invest into abilities on this page https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Teleport then you will have a clogged inventory on every character but never become stuck again.
  • aftulus
    aftulus Member Posts: 668 Arc User
    I've tried ships with teleport abilities. Once stuck it's rare they get you out. they usually detect a surface edge and stop there. Meaning you stay where you are.
  • protoneous
    protoneous Member Posts: 2,460 Arc User
    It's too bad they don't have a self destruct button for when things like this happen. Something that gives the equivalent of a matter anti-matter explosion. A really big bang with a radius measured in kilometres.
  • maniac20#5251
    maniac20#5251 Member Posts: 253 Arc User
    There use to be a Self Destruct ability but if I recall it was removed because of trolls.
  • garaffe
    garaffe Member Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    Whatever happened to the Abandon Ship ability? Ever since I started playing again on Xbox, I haven't seen it.

    I have gotten stuck in the vault during Vault Ensnared when my full impulse failed to deactivate and I rammed the vault at full speed.
  • aftulus
    aftulus Member Posts: 668 Arc User
    Yea, there used to whole builds based on self exploding and stuff. Those looked like fun. I never got to play them though.
  • westmetals
    westmetals Member Posts: 8,259 Arc User
    There use to be a Self Destruct ability but if I recall it was removed because of trolls.
    garaffe wrote: »
    Whatever happened to the Abandon Ship ability? Ever since I started playing again on Xbox, I haven't seen it.

    It was removed because of people using it maliciously (to kill other players in Earth orbit and such places).

  • legendarylycan#5411
    legendarylycan#5411 Member Posts: 36,950 Arc User
    And instead of just adding a HP requirement, Cryptic decided to just remove it entirely, proving yet again they can't be trusted to make changes with surgical precision, instead taking a nuke to anything and everything in their path. Yet we still allow them to make 'balance' changes.​​
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  • jonsills
    jonsills Member Posts: 9,729 Arc User
    You know, lycan, if you're that good at their software, Cryptic is hiring...
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  • aftulus
    aftulus Member Posts: 668 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    There use to be a Self Destruct ability but if I recall it was removed because of trolls.
    garaffe wrote: »
    Whatever happened to the Abandon Ship ability? Ever since I started playing again on Xbox, I haven't seen it.

    It was removed because of people using it maliciously (to kill other players in Earth orbit and such places).

    Could it be restricted to tfo's. Then we could have the build back too. And just let it be damaging like other skills. Or get rid of friendly to do it the cheap way.
  • rattler2
    rattler2 Member Posts: 55,546 Community Moderator
    And instead of just adding a HP requirement, Cryptic decided to just remove it entirely, proving yet again they can't be trusted to make changes with surgical precision, instead taking a nuke to anything and everything in their path. Yet we still allow them to make 'balance' changes.​​

    And how would that have helped in this situation? Because it sounds like the OP wouldn't hit that threshold because of tanky build. By the time they could, if they were being shot at as well, they might end up with an AFK penalty if they can't "see" the enemy and shoot them because Line of Sight due to being stuck.

    And then there's the opposite situation of an NPC Mob being stuck in geometry being able to shoot OUT but we can't shoot in.

    To me this sounds more like a simple case of an environmental artist needs to take a look at the map.

    @aftulus could you provide some more info on the particular instance this happened, such as which TFO and general area you were stuck in? I can try to pass this up the chain to the CM for some attention.
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  • aftulus
    aftulus Member Posts: 668 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    I was stuck in an asteroid in the nukara mission where you save 14 ships from the 4 asteroids.(Azure nebula rescue.)

    I've also seen npc's stuck in the current event mission. I think a dil hauler or one of the other npcs you need to kill get stuck in the center asteroid and mess up the mission. (Best served cold. The one stopping prisoners.)
  • jslyn
    jslyn Member Posts: 1,747 Arc User
    aftulus wrote: »
    They have foolishtly thought we could not get ourselves stuck in space. The /stuck command does not work in a space tfo. I could not die because I'm just tanky enough. And I could not leave without punishing everyone else.

    Turn off your Wi-Fi, or unplug your ethernet cable, whichever is easiest (Alt+F4 also works). After a countdown of around one minute, you will be kicked back to the log in screen. Turn back on your internet and log back in. If it has been no more than a couple of minutes since you left, you will reappear in the same TFO, usually at a spawnpoint.

    /stuck command would be preferable, but this method works.
  • fred26291#2759
    fred26291#2759 Member Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    edited February 27
    Redacted.
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  • corinthalas
    corinthalas Member Posts: 1,981 Arc User
    What happens to me is go in reverse and backout of said asteroid and that should help.
    It helps me get out of a stuck asteroid or anything else situation.
    For those who dont know this, bring your engine speed to 0, press the down arrow at the bottom of said speed indicator, while it blinks you are going in reverse and should be able to back out of said issue.

    This won't necessarily work if you've continued maneuvering while stuck, since often times when stuck, there's a very narrow range of angles that will let you reverse out of whatever obstacle has you trapped.
  • nccmark
    nccmark Member Posts: 1,037 Arc User
    Simple fix, change instance.

    Example---
    you are in Beta Quadrant Japori Sector #22. Above the minimap, choose that name display to change to another zone, like Japori # 11. Boom, you'll get swatted to another map location that isn't Pegasused into a star.
  • aftulus
    aftulus Member Posts: 668 Arc User
    nccmark wrote: »
    Simple fix, change instance.

    Example---
    you are in Beta Quadrant Japori Sector #22. Above the minimap, choose that name display to change to another zone, like Japori # 11. Boom, you'll get swatted to another map location that isn't Pegasused into a star.

    This is just from TFO's where you can't. Normal maps and instanced areas are fine because you can jump out or anything you need. Solo tfo's are probably fine too except it would stop you from starting over. And waiting 30 minutes.
  • nccmark
    nccmark Member Posts: 1,037 Arc User
    aftulus wrote: »
    nccmark wrote: »
    Simple fix, change instance.

    Example---
    you are in Beta Quadrant Japori Sector #22. Above the minimap, choose that name display to change to another zone, like Japori # 11. Boom, you'll get swatted to another map location that isn't Pegasused into a star.

    This is just from TFO's where you can't. Normal maps and instanced areas are fine because you can jump out or anything you need. Solo tfo's are probably fine too except it would stop you from starting over. And waiting 30 minutes.

    Wow, I clearly didn't read the entire post.
    The OP posted "in a TFO" twice, so I missed it twice.
    Der.

    I have no real advice beyond what was suggested. The /stuck or /unstuck options should have worked as designed, a shame they don't.