Maybe after YoK, Leeta's defeat and PIC content, J'mpok and his loyal Klingon allies recruit the Zhat Vash,, Terran Empire and the remaining True Way members to form the Anti-Alliance, as a way to discredit the Alliance and make us look like the bad guys.
While the story of the Klingon Civil War won't reach it's conclusion until the spring
Though, I would like to see the Sheliak, or the Kelvans, show up myself.
I agree with these choices. It would be great in one mission we have to play a mini-game in where we need to use the "treaty" to talk our way to convince the Sheliak to listen to us. etc.. As for the Kelvan-verse, since it seems we may never get another film from that series then the STO staff can really make that canon their own.
I remember in an old interview the developers commented that they like to work on stuff that is very obscure to the franchise since they have more freedom on what to do with it.
Totally agree with this point. After all I think Romulan faction only includes: Romulans, Remans, & Alien still.
IIRC, the Suliban were going to be part of the Romulan faction in LoR, but they got cut because the story was too focused on the Romulans/Remans for it to really make sense why a Suliban would be there/feel the same way. This is why you go to a Suliban Helix early on, and the Romulan sector space service ship is a Suliban ship.
Though I will agree they should be added to the Romulan faction, instead of being made badguys. The Sulbian, as a species, weren't evil. Only the Cabal was. And its mentioned in Enterprise that the Cabal lacked the ability to time travel, and thus, only operated in the ENT-era timeframe.
Oh wow, that's some cool insight, somtaawkhar, & I wish Cryptic had gone ahead & included them.
The easier thing would be scrap the entire game and make a STO 2
Discussion about a hypothetical STO 2 is forbidden. Thus Sayeth Cryptic...
Even if it weren't, it is far from the easiest thing to do. You do know that it takes anywhere from 4 to 6 years for an MMO to be produced? And it will require a full development team, not just a skeleton crew like Cryptic has to develop it that quickly...
The only reason why Cryptic was able to deliver STO after only 2 years in development is because they already had a working engine that was highly adaptable, which eliminated the need to build core functionality from the ground up. But, because of the specific needs of the game according to original design goals declared by Jack Emmert, the amount of work was still way more than just 2 years would allow. That is why the game launched with only the UFP faction being complete in terms of being capable of full PvE and PvP, while the KDF was almost exclusively PvP. It HAD to be this way... Because all of Star Trek canon has been UFP-centric, and at least that aspect had to be delivered to satisfy CBS' requirement that a viable product be deliverable before the existing license period expired. Perpetual Entertainment squandered half of the licensing period, putting out fake images showing what they said were in-engine examples, when they hadn't even really begun heavy development. When CBS audited them on their progress, they determined that they would not be ready in time, so the license was stripped from them. However, Perpetual did suggest that they pass the existing license over to someone else, and Cryptic was recommended.
Cryptic has always been a small team. Way smaller than the Trek license should have gone to. But they got a once in a lifetime chance to build an MMO based on one of the largest IPs in the world, and what they did manage to accomplish in only two years was nothing short of phenomenal.
But the core game was designed so tightly around the concept of two opposing factions that every system in the game was HARDCODED to that effect, and that everything from playable races to costume parts to ships, to BOFFs to gear were restricted to one faction or another... This is why we could not get a true 3rd faction when LoR came out. It's also why that characters on the KDF side cannot group with characters on the UFP side, even though the Alliance narrative that Cryptic has embraced says we should.
The only way the hardcoded mechanics will allow everyone to be able to group together is for everyone to be in the same faction... Or more accurately, in NO faction. Faction 0. I think that this is what the whole "fly any ship in the game" change is inbound. It would not surprise me that as they have been adding all the Faction 2 ships to faction 1 and vice versa, they have also been adding all Faction 1 and 2 ships to Faction 0.
I predict that the next step will be to do the same with character races and all the elements that come with it.
After that, the mechanics for all other existing faction-specific elements will be added to Faction 0. When everything from Factions 1 and 2 become homogenized with each other and in Faction 0, which will probably take the rest of the year, possibly into the next, I predict that there will be a new origin story, that of the Galactic Alliance which will start and STAY in faction 0 and at level 65, like the JH
Factions 1 and 2 will have the option of converting to Faction 0, which will be viable because everything already available to both factions would be available in it. Except for PvP, which does not fit the alliance narrative anyway. The conversion to Faction 0 would be facilitated by the optional attendance of the formal signing of the Galactic Union Charter in which all member civilizations would be seen as equals. This would not happen until Level 65 is achieved, but once the signing ceremony is attended by a player, all the walls come down. Chosing not to attend would allow the status quo to be maintained, with PvP options still available IF that is a make-or-break item. But, going forward all new ships, races, costumes, whatever would be added to Faction 0 ONLY. The formalization of the Alliance/Union would mark the beginning of a new era where the conflicts of the past are no more, But anyone wishing to start or continue to play in the 2409 era would still be able to do so, which would included all other origin stories.
The ability to fly all ships does change the face of the game. At least in space. But it does not signal the felling of the walls tht divide the factions. So what we've been officially told is true. But I cannot see them stopping with ships. As to the stories they can tell going forward, I maintain that exploration of the galaxies together would be good if the narrative is a quest to find the means of leveling the playing field beteween the alliance and the existential threats coming from extragalactic and extradimensional forces that keep rearing their ugly heads.
Sure, i didn't mean to start flame or anyting, i was just considering previous discussions and the times Cryptic guys mentioned problems with the old code.
That's why i said "Not for fanrage", but trying to give actual discussion as the resul of that move would have lead to much more freedom for developers without encumberance but, surely, would be costly.
Of course the thing they do, working around the flaws and limitations to do their thing is admirable and i am content as is, just giving my bucks to the discussion.
Speaking of story arcs, i do hope for the Terran Empire to be a thing, or Cardassia to be involved... expecially due to how they interact with most powers throughout the show.
Exploration returning though would be a very welcome surprise.
Mirror Leeta and Killy is definitely a lingering thread. Something that reveals who the Emperor is now since James O'Brien no longer exists.
I'd like to see them do something for ENT's 20th this year. Maybe a Section 31 themed episode that undoes that god awful finale by giving us a Vulcan contact played by Connor Trinneer...
If there's more plot to be had with the Borg that'd be nice, an xB faction would be fun but would need justification and I doubt an origin of the Borg story would be allowed by CBS.
Maybe a coda to the temporal war arc. One last set of battles, bring back the Guardian and be there when time travel is made illegal. Bonus dialogue to TOS and DSC era characters who have to accept their arbitrary new forever home in 2411 or 12.
Whatever happened to the Enterprise-E? Probably can't tell that story.
Is there a story about holographic sentience still be told? I mean, we can have androids left right and centre in Starfleet and the KDF so maybe not but it would be a fun way of bringing back the Doctor and holo-Stamets and the Burnham simulacrum, the latter of which would be fun to see in today's uniform.
What kind of plot could bring us an appearance by Ezri on the Aventine or show us if the Cerritos is still around or I don't know give us Captain Vale on the Titan? Sod it. Fen Domar. I want a Fen Domar plot. Teased as aggressive aliens, complete blank slate. Go for it.
Whatever happened to the Enterprise-E? Probably can't tell that story.
Cryptic has mentioned in the past that CBS has explicitly forbid them saying what happened to the ENT-E in-game, in case they do something with it.
There was a non-canon sotry from one of the STO writers in an issue of Star Trek magazine years ago that said the ENT-E was sent to investigate why the Federation lost contact with a starbase, and it turned out the Undine had destroyed it, and then they attack and destroy the ENT-E, but Captain Data and most of the crew, get out in the escape pods.
Mirror Leeta and Killy is definitely a lingering thread. Something that reveals who the Emperor is now since James O'Brien no longer exists.
I'd like to see them do something for ENT's 20th this year. Maybe a Section 31 themed episode that undoes that god awful finale by giving us a Vulcan contact played by Connor Trinneer...
If there's more plot to be had with the Borg that'd be nice, an xB faction would be fun but would need justification and I doubt an origin of the Borg story would be allowed by CBS.
Maybe a coda to the temporal war arc. One last set of battles, bring back the Guardian and be there when time travel is made illegal. Bonus dialogue to TOS and DSC era characters who have to accept their arbitrary new forever home in 2411 or 12.
Whatever happened to the Enterprise-E? Probably can't tell that story.
Is there a story about holographic sentience still be told? I mean, we can have androids left right and centre in Starfleet and the KDF so maybe not but it would be a fun way of bringing back the Doctor and holo-Stamets and the Burnham simulacrum, the latter of which would be fun to see in today's uniform.
What kind of plot could bring us an appearance by Ezri on the Aventine or show us if the Cerritos is still around or I don't know give us Captain Vale on the Titan? Sod it. Fen Domar. I want a Fen Domar plot. Teased as aggressive aliens, complete blank slate. Go for it.
Maybe undo Trip Tucker's death, along the way, Denobulans were know to do genetic research, who's to say that Phlox didn't clone Trip like he did with Sim, maybe have a prime timeline version of Lorian who was like a big brother to Spock.
Mirror Leeta and Killy is definitely a lingering thread. Something that reveals who the Emperor is now since James O'Brien no longer exists.
I'd like to see them do something for ENT's 20th this year. Maybe a Section 31 themed episode that undoes that god awful finale by giving us a Vulcan contact played by Connor Trinneer...
If there's more plot to be had with the Borg that'd be nice, an xB faction would be fun but would need justification and I doubt an origin of the Borg story would be allowed by CBS.
Maybe a coda to the temporal war arc. One last set of battles, bring back the Guardian and be there when time travel is made illegal. Bonus dialogue to TOS and DSC era characters who have to accept their arbitrary new forever home in 2411 or 12.
Whatever happened to the Enterprise-E? Probably can't tell that story.
Is there a story about holographic sentience still be told? I mean, we can have androids left right and centre in Starfleet and the KDF so maybe not but it would be a fun way of bringing back the Doctor and holo-Stamets and the Burnham simulacrum, the latter of which would be fun to see in today's uniform.
What kind of plot could bring us an appearance by Ezri on the Aventine or show us if the Cerritos is still around or I don't know give us Captain Vale on the Titan? Sod it. Fen Domar. I want a Fen Domar plot. Teased as aggressive aliens, complete blank slate. Go for it.
Maybe undo Trip Tucker's death, along the way, Denobulans were know to do genetic research, who's to say that Phlox didn't clone Trip like he did with Sim, maybe have a prime timeline version of Lorian who was like a big brother to Spock.
I agree with undoing Trip Tucker's death. After he was brought back to life through the clone Sim in the episode Similitude, what was so different about his death in These Are the Voyages...? Also, that wink at the end is not a wink someone who is about to die gives. I like how the novels handle it and imagine that as an unreleased Enterprise episode or even story arc.
I agree but apparently the majority of players get squeamish over that stuff, while I'm perfectly fine with going full Terran, we already committed genocide as Feds, what's a little torture and cannibalism going to do? it's not like we can undo all those deaths with time travel.
I agree but apparently the majority of players get squeamish over that stuff, while I'm perfectly fine with going full Terran, we already committed genocide as Feds, what's a little torture and cannibalism going to do? it's not like we can undo all those deaths with time travel.
Nor do we have a mushroom realm that can resurrect people whenever it wants or Klingon lava clones!
I agree but apparently the majority of players get squeamish over that stuff, while I'm perfectly fine with going full Terran, we already committed genocide as Feds, what's a little torture and cannibalism going to do? it's not like we can undo all those deaths with time travel.
Nor do we have a mushroom realm that can resurrect people whenever it wants or Klingon lava clones!
I agree but apparently the majority of players get squeamish over that stuff, while I'm perfectly fine with going full Terran, we already committed genocide as Feds, what's a little torture and cannibalism going to do? it's not like we can undo all those deaths with time travel.
Nor do we have a mushroom realm that can resurrect people whenever it wants or Klingon lava clones!
don't forget the Kobali.
How can one forget the criminal corpse collectors?
My only issue with a Terran faction would be that we would soften and have to defect to Federation or KDF. Give me agony booths and sexual liberation and go full Terran I say.
My only issue with a Terran faction would be that we would soften and have to defect to Federation or KDF. Give me agony booths and sexual liberation and go full Terran I say.
Just think of it as sabotaging the Federation from the inside. the KDF was at war with the Federation during the first couple of arcs, there's no way they would allow Fed races on their planet even if they're Terran, Terrans joining the KDF makes no sense since they wouldn't last a week, they hate Terrans more than the Feds, they even manage to find out that certain diplomat was an undine infiltrator, in reality Terrans would just get the same treatment as AOY and Disco, as an alternate start for Fed Toons.
Just think of it as sabotaging the Federation from the inside. the KDF was at war with the Federation during the first couple of arcs, there's no way they would allow Fed races on their planet even if they're Terran, Terrans joining the KDF makes no sense since they wouldn't last a week, they hate Terrans more than the Feds, they even manage to find out that certain diplomat was an undine infiltrator, in reality Terrans would just get the same treatment as AOY and Disco, as an alternate start for Fed Toons.
Not to mention that Terrans hate Klingons as much, if not more, then they do the Federation. Hell, the Terrans rendered Qo'nos nearly uninhabitable in the MU.
Terrans represent all the worst aspects of humanity while the Federation represents the best.
If Disco S3 does anything well, it's showing Georgiou's journey in this regard rather than the parody (admittedly enjoyable) that the mirror episodes tend to become.
I'd love to explore mirror culture and society in future storylines. The episode on mirror Bajor was one of the best in the game.
I still think it have something to tie into Cardassia, also with Linkages to Badlands; and Mirror Story tie in being so close by.
Though it be nice to see even the Ferengi contribute to the Alliance with a Fleet Commerce Authority Consulate - place to perhaps offer a new Fleet Holding in Ferengi Space, or Planetside? Might eventually give us something new, to put our GPL to work along with other options for Fleet Credit &/or Dilithium...
I'd also love a few missions added to older ARC's, that maybe included Q or Q Junior as well; yet if this isn't a tall order what is?
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So at least the Ferengi were smart enough to enrich it with lots of Gold dust, combining two rare resources into one.
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Why not just add them to the Romulan faction instead?
Totally agree with this point. After all I think Romulan faction only includes: Romulans, Remans, & Alien still.
I agree with these choices. It would be great in one mission we have to play a mini-game in where we need to use the "treaty" to talk our way to convince the Sheliak to listen to us. etc.. As for the Kelvan-verse, since it seems we may never get another film from that series then the STO staff can really make that canon their own.
I remember in an old interview the developers commented that they like to work on stuff that is very obscure to the franchise since they have more freedom on what to do with it.
Oh wow, that's some cool insight, somtaawkhar, & I wish Cryptic had gone ahead & included them.
I wonder what is Cryptic's excuse nowadays lol.
Sure, i didn't mean to start flame or anyting, i was just considering previous discussions and the times Cryptic guys mentioned problems with the old code.
That's why i said "Not for fanrage", but trying to give actual discussion as the resul of that move would have lead to much more freedom for developers without encumberance but, surely, would be costly.
Of course the thing they do, working around the flaws and limitations to do their thing is admirable and i am content as is, just giving my bucks to the discussion.
Speaking of story arcs, i do hope for the Terran Empire to be a thing, or Cardassia to be involved... expecially due to how they interact with most powers throughout the show.
Exploration returning though would be a very welcome surprise.
I'd like to see them do something for ENT's 20th this year. Maybe a Section 31 themed episode that undoes that god awful finale by giving us a Vulcan contact played by Connor Trinneer...
If there's more plot to be had with the Borg that'd be nice, an xB faction would be fun but would need justification and I doubt an origin of the Borg story would be allowed by CBS.
Maybe a coda to the temporal war arc. One last set of battles, bring back the Guardian and be there when time travel is made illegal. Bonus dialogue to TOS and DSC era characters who have to accept their arbitrary new forever home in 2411 or 12.
Whatever happened to the Enterprise-E? Probably can't tell that story.
Is there a story about holographic sentience still be told? I mean, we can have androids left right and centre in Starfleet and the KDF so maybe not but it would be a fun way of bringing back the Doctor and holo-Stamets and the Burnham simulacrum, the latter of which would be fun to see in today's uniform.
What kind of plot could bring us an appearance by Ezri on the Aventine or show us if the Cerritos is still around or I don't know give us Captain Vale on the Titan? Sod it. Fen Domar. I want a Fen Domar plot. Teased as aggressive aliens, complete blank slate. Go for it.
So, that happened...
Maybe undo Trip Tucker's death, along the way, Denobulans were know to do genetic research, who's to say that Phlox didn't clone Trip like he did with Sim, maybe have a prime timeline version of Lorian who was like a big brother to Spock.
I agree with undoing Trip Tucker's death. After he was brought back to life through the clone Sim in the episode Similitude, what was so different about his death in These Are the Voyages...? Also, that wink at the end is not a wink someone who is about to die gives. I like how the novels handle it and imagine that as an unreleased Enterprise episode or even story arc.
I agree but apparently the majority of players get squeamish over that stuff, while I'm perfectly fine with going full Terran, we already committed genocide as Feds, what's a little torture and cannibalism going to do? it's not like we can undo all those deaths with time travel.
Nor do we have a mushroom realm that can resurrect people whenever it wants or Klingon lava clones!
don't forget the Kobali.
How can one forget the criminal corpse collectors?
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Just think of it as sabotaging the Federation from the inside. the KDF was at war with the Federation during the first couple of arcs, there's no way they would allow Fed races on their planet even if they're Terran, Terrans joining the KDF makes no sense since they wouldn't last a week, they hate Terrans more than the Feds, they even manage to find out that certain diplomat was an undine infiltrator, in reality Terrans would just get the same treatment as AOY and Disco, as an alternate start for Fed Toons.
Terrans represent all the worst aspects of humanity while the Federation represents the best.
If Disco S3 does anything well, it's showing Georgiou's journey in this regard rather than the parody (admittedly enjoyable) that the mirror episodes tend to become.
I'd love to explore mirror culture and society in future storylines. The episode on mirror Bajor was one of the best in the game.
I have a list of MU races that were conquered by Terrans in Ten Forward.
Short version: ... Everyone?
No not everyone, they failed to conquer the Romulans, Klingons and Cardassians.
Depends on which MU you are talking about. Georgiou conquered the Klingons
Well ... the Star Trek Online Terran Empire has.
Though it be nice to see even the Ferengi contribute to the Alliance with a Fleet Commerce Authority Consulate - place to perhaps offer a new Fleet Holding in Ferengi Space, or Planetside? Might eventually give us something new, to put our GPL to work along with other options for Fleet Credit &/or Dilithium...
I'd also love a few missions added to older ARC's, that maybe included Q or Q Junior as well; yet if this isn't a tall order what is?
Memory-Beta: Latinum
"Latinum was a rare substance which was prized by many civilizations in the Alpha Quadrant, including the Ferengi Alliance."
...
"Latinum was found naturally in the form of crystals which can be mined. Such crystals typically formed near pockets of nickel, iron, pergium, or cobalt."
So at least the Ferengi were smart enough to enrich it with lots of Gold dust, combining two rare resources into one.
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"