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seaofsorrows
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So, someone posted a recap of the latest Ten Forward Weekly Stream over on Reddit.
You can view that post by u/TheSajuukKhar by clicking Here.
There are a few blurbs about the skill issue, here are the highlights from that post:
I have bolded the last line for a reason. We can see that updates that touch the skill system cause this invalid bug to occur. They are currently working on the Traits issue as part of the load outs, it's already been established that loadouts touch the skill system.
Simple deduction tells you that when the fix for the Traits goes in, there is a good chance that the Skills will break again. Of course, I am not a game developer, I can't say for sure.. but it seems very likely.
For this reason alone, I am opting to leave my skills 'invalid' for now and would advise others to do the same. It will just help reduce the anger level when this happens again. Of course, it would be nice if Cryptic would let us know if this upcoming fix is expected to break the skills again.. but I think we all know we're on our own there.
You can view that post by u/TheSajuukKhar by clicking Here.
There are a few blurbs about the skill issue, here are the highlights from that post:
All three instances of the skill reset thing not being mentioned beforehand were due to breaks in the line of communication to Kael so he could know about it to tell us
They have stuff in place now to help prevent it from happening again
Skill resets because all the skill data in kept in a power tree that tracks all the skills in the game/what you've got, and fixing bugs in skills, and certain traits, can cause the powers tree to think your skill are invalid. The same is true of loadouts, since those touch skills also
All three instances of the skill retrains weren't part of normal development conversations, so Kael wasn't informed, and it came as a surprise to many of the devs also
Working on fixing traits getting wiped when changing ships.
I have bolded the last line for a reason. We can see that updates that touch the skill system cause this invalid bug to occur. They are currently working on the Traits issue as part of the load outs, it's already been established that loadouts touch the skill system.
Simple deduction tells you that when the fix for the Traits goes in, there is a good chance that the Skills will break again. Of course, I am not a game developer, I can't say for sure.. but it seems very likely.
For this reason alone, I am opting to leave my skills 'invalid' for now and would advise others to do the same. It will just help reduce the anger level when this happens again. Of course, it would be nice if Cryptic would let us know if this upcoming fix is expected to break the skills again.. but I think we all know we're on our own there.
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Well, I think the last part could happen if the dev internal server had the same bugs as the live server does, that way the QA team could go in and see what happens when the fix is applied.
I havent respec since the first bug... no problem so far.. i'll respec when they confirm it's safe to do so.. everything is working, so no need to do it right now..
I stupidly did it twice.. on all 10 characters.
Not my best decision apparently.
Thanks for the heads up though. Appreciate the information.
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Good heads up, ty for that.
Odd, as I have not respecced any of my characters since this first occurred, and have still been able to spend specialization points as I accumulate them.
I have 30 chars now.. so nope, nope, nope.. no respec until confirmed..
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HERE! 2 hours for 14 toons each and every few weeks or less, NEVER!
Will continue to use them broke
I've only ever focused on the group I regularly get on. Easily half of my entire roster is still borked because I don't really play those characters.
Just focus on the mains, then do alts over time. *shrug*
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I can confirm that.
Here's the link again, if anyone wants more proof:
https://streamable.com/gcxej1
And thanks @seaofsorrows for this warning. I've relayed it to my fleetmates and it's much appreciated.
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
mumble: and I already did a respec on mah primary toon, oh well.
The bit at the end for losing skill traits on ship changes DEFINITELY need fixing since I change ships 'alot' for both endeavor flavor of the day damage specs, as well as personal 'i wana fly this ship' flavor as well. Might wana watch this soon with the xmas ship most everyone will be acquiring ju 'after christmas, and all dat dev vacation time coming, all all likely deserved such.
No big deal, I did my primary too.. just because I don't like leaving him broken. That's not a big deal, what would suck is doing 10, 20, 30+ characters and then having it break.. again.
What might be important is "Promise of Ferocity" was the trait I put in the "X-upgrade" slot. I say might, because I didn't confirm any other trait active, but my Buffs are at the levels I normally see.
I just can't shake the feeling that I was still under performing that first patrol, after re-spec I did the 3 Disco patrols, it was the usual Slap them all down silly. I then tried several disco patrols on Elite to see about a post made yesterday(ish) and problems in them (I didn't experience any), and blew through them as I would have expected.
Side note. Has anyone tried to X-upgrade a shuttle? I wonder if it would work? Tribble, now I got to try. Never mind, you can't. now I'm kinda bummed. I didn't know I wanted this, now I has a sad.
My guess is they already did that years ago when the coders asked for outrageous things like enough money per month to pay rent/fill the fridge & live without existential dread and the current ones are helplessly overwhelmed with everything.
I'm glad you noticed. I didn't do any voice over, and I forgot to put any kind of text explaining, but I hoped the double-click was noticeable enough that people would know that's what you need to do to assign the point(s).
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
Say what????
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
This just went up on the STO Facebook page:
At least this time we got a warning, progress.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Fortunately I saw your thread before another reskill.
Unfortunately Kyle did not.
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