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  • jozen#9312 jozen Member Posts: 78 Arc User
    I think that this is further proof that this company has space sickness. $120USD for a skin and junk is appalling. There should be riots. This isn't even EFFORT. It's recycled.

    I can get a brand new 2TB SSD for that price
    https://www.amazon.ca/Samsung-T7-Portable-SSD-MU-PC500T/dp/B0874YS2N7/ref=asc_df_B0874YS2N7/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459784623723&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3545313911729951359&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000877&hvtargid=pla-912959816040&psc=1
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 14,378 Arc User
    I think that this is further proof that this company has space sickness. $120USD for a skin and junk is appalling. There should be riots. This isn't even EFFORT. It's recycled.

    I can get a brand new 2TB SSD for that price
    https://www.amazon.ca/Samsung-T7-Portable-SSD-MU-PC500T/dp/B0874YS2N7/ref=asc_df_B0874YS2N7/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459784623723&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3545313911729951359&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000877&hvtargid=pla-912959816040&psc=1

    What a terrible overreaction.

    And by all means, go buy your 2TB SSD. No-one is forcing anyone to buy this bundle, although reading some of the responses on Social Media you'd think Cryptic was holding a gun to player's head and forcing them to purchase Zen.


  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,295 Arc User
    Cryptic boxed themselves into a corner with those Reputation to T5 items for 3k Zen. To have them max this new Discovery Character to T5 in all Reputations would be 'valued' at 39k Zen.

    Level 65 is Mk XV territory, UR items would be more appropriate.

    1 Million EC? Where have they been, they give out close to that in daily Endeavor Rewards.
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  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Cryptic boxed themselves into a corner with those Reputation to T5 items for 3k Zen. To have them max this new Discovery Character to T5 in all Reputations would be 'valued' at 39k Zen.

    Level 65 is Mk XV territory, UR items would be more appropriate.

    1 Million EC? Where have they been, they give out close to that in daily Endeavor Rewards.

    Exactly. I don't know what they're trying to sell here. You'd be better off spending that kind of Zen on virtually any other ship bundle as a new player (including any of the starter packs or expansion packs), and for a veteran player, it's a whole lot of useless junk with a middle-of-the-pack ship. Who exactly is this supposed to be for?
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 3,632 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    This bundle could well be a draw for new players. And lets not forget, Discovery is airing again, and possibly attracting new blood to both the franchise and the game. I don't think its a bad move at all for Cryptic to pop out bundles themed on the currently- running 'TV' show when said series may well be bringing people to the game.

    Discovery is airing again, but the Walker only showed once in the 2-part prologue and the Mirror Universe episodes, and right now, Discovery is set in the future.

    And I doubt a single ship the price of an entire AAA game (2 once the discount is gone) would be what you'd call a draw for new players.


    Also:
    Advance Immediately to Max Level!

    Appearing as part of this bundle is a Max Level Boost which you can use to immediately set a character to max level. This powerful Boost is yours to use as you see fit, provided a few restrictions are met:

    The character to be boosted must belong to the Discovery-Era Federation faction.
    The intended character must have completed (or skipped) the Tutorial.
    You must have at least one character on your account that has reached Level 65.
    It's clearly not intended for new players. Unless it's sending mixed messages.
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  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    I think the level boost would had been more enticing if it included a reputation of choice being boosted to tier 6 - only one
  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,179 Arc User
    I think they are still trying to figure out how to price these one offs, honestly. The T'liss didn't sell well is my guess, while the Gal X was extremely popular, and far cheaper. Now they are trying that 12k again despite this ship being not a fan favorite and the bundle offering little of value, which makes me think they think people didn't buy the T'liss because it wasn't a Fed ship.
  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    I think they are still trying to figure out how to price these one offs, honestly. The T'liss didn't sell well is my guess, while the Gal X was extremely popular, and far cheaper. Now they are trying that 12k again despite this ship being not a fan favorite and the bundle offering little of value, which makes me think they think people didn't buy the T'liss because it wasn't a Fed ship.

    Its hard to price something when they dont play the game too. The QA people out of necessity, since its their job, play the game. They could have asked their opinion to get an "internal poll". People within Cryptic absolutely do not seem to know how fast it is to lvl to 65 but how slow it is to get reps to 6, traits, spec points etc. I think because Emerson compared, on livestreams, many things to WoW, he thinks its like the WoW boost but WoW boost gave you a full compliment of quality starter equipment for example. Same went for Everquest 2.
  • captainwellscaptainwells Member Posts: 666 Arc User
    Bundle here .... bundle there ..... bundle, bundle .... everywhere!
  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,218 Arc User
    I think they are still trying to figure out how to price these one offs, honestly. The T'liss didn't sell well is my guess, while the Gal X was extremely popular, and far cheaper. Now they are trying that 12k again despite this ship being not a fan favorite and the bundle offering little of value, which makes me think they think people didn't buy the T'liss because it wasn't a Fed ship.

    The Legendary T'liss has one point for it - it is a cross-faction ship.
    It is also the only one legendary ship on my account - until I save enough Zen to have reserve for the 10-ship fed bundle, then I will look at any other ships... looks like I will have to wait some time. :/
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 14,378 Arc User
    I think they are still trying to figure out how to price these one offs, honestly. The T'liss didn't sell well is my guess, while the Gal X was extremely popular, and far cheaper. Now they are trying that 12k again despite this ship being not a fan favorite and the bundle offering little of value, which makes me think they think people didn't buy the T'liss because it wasn't a Fed ship.

    I, for one, am glad they're at least trying.

    I mean, whilst Bundles may not be to everyone's tastes and whilst not necessarily overly popular (depending on content and how delivered) I suspect these bundles are slightly more popular than so-called 'gambleboxes'. And one aspect of this that cannot be argued against is that bundles do at least flat-out guarantee you get what you paid for.


  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 5,269 Arc User
    I wish / hope the ship is available separately. I do not want to start another new character (I plan to never start any more unless there's a recruiting event I haven't done), so the character boost to level 65 is worthless to me.
  • lowestlvllowestlvl Member Posts: 604 Arc User
    in short: no.

    in long: its amazing how they can cough up a pack for $120 to skip the content grind and dump you at the reputation grind. but hey they'll charge you $30 bucks a rep to skip tier 1-5 and drop you at the 1-3 month slog thats tier 6.

    just reeks of sleeze.
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  • starcruiser#3423 starcruiser Member Posts: 746 Arc User
    One word....MEDIOCRE

    I will pass as it is ridiculously expensive for just one ship and smaller shinies. Leveling up a character in this game is real simple and no need to spend an arm or a leg on it either.
  • zeven2004zeven2004 Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    I wish / hope the ship is available separately. I do not want to start another new character (I plan to never start any more unless there's a recruiting event I haven't done), so the character boost to level 65 is worthless to me.

    Same (though the ship IS made available for all your chars on your account). I just made this disco character last week, and if I cannot use these officers because I got this character to 65 "too soon," I am going to be a bit disappointed. I'm wondering if you can use the pack on an a character that is already 65, since I really do not care about the level boost.
  • zeven2004zeven2004 Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    "This level-up process is designed to be usable for characters of any level."

    Does "any level" include 65?
  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 3,685 Arc User
    My thought:

    $90 (the ship is worth $30) for a 'Raise to Lvl 65' token...

    Not worth it at all. leveling in this game is not difficult to do quickly at all.

    But others may feel differently.
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  • spacehermitspacehermit Member Posts: 287 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
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    In Cryptic's other game, Neverwinter, Epic is below Legendary. The top tier is Mythic.

    Is "mythic" even a word? Mythical, surely?
  • grodgrod Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    Since I detest gamble boxes and bind to character I've made an effort to buy all of this year's bundles to support moving away from gamble & BTC. Legendary fed, t'liss, mirror dread. That's a painful but IMO worthwhile ~$300 worth of zen spent this year.

    But this 'bundle' is a bridge too far, especially with boffs bound to the boosted character. There's a limit of how little value I'll accept for the money (and we're talking at 50% off, not the Mudd's pricing). Sorry, Cryptic, but no sale this time.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,295 Arc User
    > @spacehermit said:
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    > Is "mythic" even a word? Mythical, surely?

    myth·ic
    /ˈmiTHik/
    adjective
    relating to or resembling myth.
    "we explain spiritual forces in mythic language"
    exaggerated or idealized.
    "he was a national hero of mythic proportions"

    It is if you're Cryptic. It does rhyme don't you know.
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  • coldnapalmcoldnapalm Member Posts: 9,245 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    And to be honest, whilst I'll concede that the pack does lack some things that would make sense, as described in earlier posts, it does actually appeal to me. Reading some posts here, and on social media, I get the impression that I should feel bad for that though.

    Why feel bad? If you like it and it's worth it for you...by all means get the bundle. For me...because of the no support for my favored faction and the continued fed only bundles during the year of the KLINGONS (which isn't my favored faction mind you) means I will continue to not care about spending any money in this game.
  • livinlifejb90#4082 livinlifejb90 Member Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    disappointed in the "limited" availability where as the legendary romulan bundle is available permanently. sucks. who ever is running the monetization department needs to be fired. because they do not know how to market. STO must be on its last legs since everything has turned to cash grabbing.
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  • eladonwarps#6040 eladonwarps Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    Yeah, the price point is still a turn off because of how much value they're clearly putting into the Max Level token. So although I've bought some of the Legendaries and other bundles, this one's another pass. Ship does look good, but I can do without.

    Now, if they gave me a token to SLOW DOWN my levelling so I could enjoy the story more and spend more time in the T1-4 ships, I'd pay for that. But I'm sure I'm in the minority for such a feature.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,295 Arc User
    The Walker was a Lobi Ship so would never have a chance to be a 3k Zen Ship.

    The T'Liss Legendary also contained a Character Level Boost and is the same price. If that didn't sell well, then why this?

    In LOTRO their boost is to 120 (max Level is 130), but gives you the max Level of Trait Points for a 120 Level Character (92 of 96). Reputations are not given.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,076 Arc User
    > @eladonwarps#6040 said:
    > Now, if they gave me a token to SLOW DOWN my levelling so I could enjoy the story more and spend more time in the T1-4 ships, I'd pay for that. But I'm sure I'm in the minority for such a feature.

    Yea.
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  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    The T'liss was worth it because the ToS skin was from, arguably, one of the best Star Trek episodes and that Romulan warbird profile is iconic plus it gave so many people fangasms when it showed up in Picard.

    The Walker class? You never really got a good view of it before it was blown up. They screwed themselves over as the Legendary Glen is part of the super expensive 10th mega bundle so they wouldn't/couldn't use that.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,689 Arc User
    I know it will be denied but I'm beginning to wonder, since Cryptic's unwillingness of re-running recruitment events, if Cryptic is pondering entwining such a recruitment event character gimmick into a bundle like this. I'd bet they've already considered it at least given their aggresive marketing.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 2,632 Arc User
    I think of this package the same as all the other legendary packages, they look nice but are too expensive to seriously consider getting. They are whale toys.
  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    Other than the fact that it's a ship I don't have in any form and my completionist genes are screaming at me to get it, the pack isn't overly appealing to me at $60. I could talk myself into the last one because the price was low enough compared to a T6 fleet ship to justify (plus being able to slap I.S.S. on all my ships put it over the top), but an auto level to 65 is pretty much useless, especially without a slot to build a new toon in. The holo boffs are interesting, but if they suck like most of the ones that they hand out, they don't add any value - maybe they will all be Uhuras, which might change my mind, but I am not counting on it. Outlook does not look good for a buy on this one.

    Why can't holo boffs include something really special like the Attack Pattern Worf 1 from the mission where's he's in your crew?

  • fred26291#2759 fred26291 Member Posts: 921 Arc User
    Holding out for the right bundle to be offered :)
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