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ilithyn
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...how do we save our skill set up so we can choose the correct skills again? Where's the built save in this game? Or rather, why isn't there?
And while we're at it, why wasn't it stated more clearly that we now need to respec a captain before we can do anything with them?
And while we're at it, why wasn't it stated more clearly that we now need to respec a captain before we can do anything with them?
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Manually typing them in? Then I might as well just take a bunch of screen shots, that is waaaaay quicker. I was looking for an in game solution that means I do not have to spend 50 hours first copying all the info on my characters down then redoing them.
Does everyone get a free respec token for each character?
Yeah, that's why I said it's not for everyone.
I share builds a lot so it's worth it to me, it doesn't take me that long to fill out a template. If it's not for you, fine.. but the game does not provide any type of method for saving before you respec. Screen shots are probably going to be your only option.
Plus it's clunky as ****, I never understood how you actually save a build there or get it back once saved. Yes I have an account, yes I'm logged in.
This game is literally from the last century. I can't think of another MMO that doesn't have a loadout save for a character. Like how is this still not a thing? Even Neverwinter which is by no means state of the art has that and have had it for year.
Honestly compared to STO Neverwinter handles respec almost elegantly and that game can be something of a hippopotamus when it comes to forced respecs.
It won't be fixed because it's an intentional breaking of the skills. Which they in their usual brilliant communication forgot to tell everyone about. So now all captains are broken until fully respecced.
And apparently not. Two of my captains have no respec option so apparently only some characters get it? Or maybe I just had some left on my others, who knows. Not like we're informed of what's going on.
To be fair... STO is their second game after CO. And it was thrown together under an extreme time crunch. I still remember how the skills were handled back around F2P. You could allocate up to 9 points into a skill rather than the much simpler version we have now.
Compare what we have now to... this.
Granted this is showing ground skills, but still... our current system is by far much simpler and more streamlined than what we used to have.
-edit. My skills were not reset.
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Fed, KDF, Rom, JH-Fed, DSC Fed, JH-KDF, TOS Fed and then I gave up. I even just reset the last two without reassigning the skills OR the traits. Because, yeah, it's the skills that are broken but it also removes the traits for whatever reasons.
And of course, if one or several of those traits are clickies, you gotta be on ground or space (or both in a row) to make sure they're back in their right placement in the power tray that still doesn't get properly saved.
Totally not tedious at all, especially with a mission AND a TFO filled with timegated endless waves of enemies running at the same period.
I want a free personal respec for each character before I start going through them though. I have at least one on every character but I don't want to use them up on a forced retrain from an update.
By the way, you can use Windows' Snipping tool to make a pic of your skill tree before pressing the respec button. Being in Windowed mode helps. But I do agree the retrain is a pain. It was a big step backwards from the past when you could play with your build, moving points around all you wanted until it was just right then pressed a button to apply it... or cancel and be back where you started. We need to go back to that method. I don't want to have to go back to using the retrain officer but would if that's the only way. Does it even ask if you are sure you want to clear your points when you press restrain?
By the way, I think STO was their third game. COH, CO, then STO.
Boy was I glad that I have STO academy Sea mentions as I have forgotten so much the past year.
That’s on its own should say enough alright.
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I kinda miss the old skill tree design. I though the rank placement of some skills arbitrary, but then that can be said for the current one too. And each profession, if I remember right, had access to skill boxes the other 2 didn't? So if you wanted to be super space magic, you had to be a Science Captain. Made your captain's profession matter more than a few different buttons to press.
Any respec will have to wait till the weekend when i have time to do so.
Only difference is probably that i have not reduced kit cooldown on some chars and this might be a good time to remedy that.
It happens very rarely that I respec and once I clicked wrong and could start all over, blowing a token.
There was a KDF mission which gave you a respec token. You could replay the mission and collect tokens. It was a bug of course Nobody mentioned it ever. I suppose because few play the KDF.
Yes I recall that system too. I don't mean that the skill system is simpler, I meant that in Neverwinter you can, or at least could last I played, save your setup both skills and gear, use the retrain token they give you for free in cases of forced respecs like this, then load your spec and get all of it back in one go. Only time it didn't work like that was when they did a complete overhaul of the skills and completely changed the system like from the old one here to what we have now.
The fact that we still don't have spec saves in the game tells me that they really don't care about the game or the players. They've had 11 years to put it in there, Neverwinter didn't have it to start with either but got it after five years I think and when they the first of two skill overhauls I was there for. It could easily have been made part of the new (current) skill set up when it went live but it looks like it wasn't even considered that having that should be a standard.
No, it isn't. I just redid my main and I can't recall when the UI was last this sluggish. Not redoing my alt, I simply do not have the time on this side of New Year. And considering having alts is what's kept me around I can kinda guess what it'll mean or my playtime and general involvement with the game.
I had completely forgot about the power trays. I guess I'll be flying halfassed until I have a couple of hours to fix this, which might be some time next week.
The invalid skills respec is a free one. They aren't that cruel to charge you a respec for a bug.
Having a printable character portfolio like that would enhance the RP aspects too, or at least it would for those who came to the game from a tabletop RP or LARP background anyway, and it would be another mostly unique point for the game after the loss of its other unique features (the Foundry and intergame chat).
I was not aware of that. Good to know, thanks!
I still haven't found where a dev has explained why aside from what people have mentioned in this thread. What I've heard so far makes no sense to me as a programmer. If some skills changed enough that people might want to adjust their build then we'd need those particulars in the patch notes so we can use our free retrain properly.
Funny how they were able to split Personal Ground and Space Traits, though. Still not for Reputation Active. I only did my Character that I was going to run the TFO with last night.
The thing about the old Skill UI was that you could allocate all the points before you had to save. The new one requires you to save after each point allocated, thereby being more friendly to them in that if you scr*w up a point allocation it is another Respec and start over.
l don't know.
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That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Oh not a bug? So you don't have to respec the character and everything will be fine? Okay.