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T6 Fleet Patrol Escort?
magniacapra
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Mentioned by Timberwolf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQnZQ6PELVw
Any word on whether this classic ship will ever see a t6 version?
What stats would you like to see on it if it did?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQnZQ6PELVwAny word on whether this classic ship will ever see a t6 version?
What stats would you like to see on it if it did?
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I'm sure at least one of those matches, or very close, to what it would be.
His, & a couple of others', (instructional?) videos are usually good but they always remind me of something like a "reality" show that is really scripted & I think he pals around with this forum mod, darkbladejk, so I'm always wondering if their good fortune is actually that or Cryptic good "random" nudging.
Odds are it will come in time. They have said they want to do T6 versions of everything so... in time.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I always enjoyed the Nihydron Destroyer especially & the APU Cruiser myself though their optimal window of serviceable gameplay was too short.
My one issue with the Tempest is the fused tailgun Not only does it really lock you into Phaser if you want to get the most out of her, it locks you into cannons.
I still got the OLD Fleet T5 that didn't have the tailgun on one character. If I bump her to T5U she'll gain the tailgun and that's not exactly a good thing for a Tet build.
I don't mind being locked into phaser build since I run canon setups on all my faction specific ships, so I was always going to go with phasers on a Starfleet ship anyway. The locking into cannons part I can somewhat agree with, since I'd prefer to go with beams often on that setup. It is an awesome design though, and in the end that's what's most important to me in a ship.
I mean big numbers don't hurt, but you also want to like what is making those big numbers.
Wasn't that the very first ship with a dedicated/locked rear-weapon now pretty much evolved into an Experimental Weapon slot?
Pulling everything in with a Gravity Well and then hitting the area with the Nadeon Saturation Bomb was great fun.
I still think the Tempest class skin is perhaps the most beautiful design Cryptic has ever made it's just absolutely stunning.
That being said, I think that unless Cryptic was willing to violate it's own rules on upgrades, this release would be a waste of everyones time. The layout of the Tempest is outdated and in need of a revision, something that Cryptic doesn't usually do when moving a ship from T5-T6.
It's biggest problem is the 4 forward weapons. If this is going to remain on the T6, then don't bother. 5 forward weapons is a must on an escort and really SHOULD be a standard on any ships of the 'Escort' class. These ships are built to use their maneuverability to keep guns on target, having a 4/3 (or in this case 4/4*) layout is silly. Any escort with 4 forward guns is an automatic 'no thanks.'
The Tail Gun. This is less of an issue since all they really need to do is just convert the tail gun to an experimental weapon, but it can't be a fused weapon that can't be removed or upgraded. Even if they leave it and lock you into Phasers it should at least be upgradable.
Bridge Officer Layout and console setup are all fine.. no problems there.
Unless they're willing to make some changes to make the ship competitive, then there is little point to making it. It will just be another 3k Zen Ship that's outclassed from the instant it arrives. This great ship deserves better.
Imagine that console, being boosted by EPG, being equipped on a proper science vessel.
As for the Patrol Escort getting the Tier 6 treatment, Timber is entitled to his opinion but as far as i am concerned it needs to wait in line BEHIND the Tier 6 Nova.
With the heavy focus on the mycelial network and spores i can see the potential of new science ships and potentially for the Nova. Was there not a meet and greet between Garrett Wang and the devs recently?
But, Nova/Rhode Island first.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
A T6 version of the Fleet Patrol Escort would be good, along with a T6 version of the Steamrunner (which is a favorite of mine too) like Timberwolf mentions, though the point about the number of T6 escorts out there already is true enough that sci scouts like the Nova/Rhode island should get their chance first (a z-store T6 N'kaam would be great too instead of just being used as a skin for the Ho'kuun though I doubt that would ever happen since it is an "alien" ship).
Well, good news then!
There are already quite a few of these horrifically mediocre escorts already in the C-Store for you to choose from. If they had a section of the C-Store called 'Ships no one flies,' they would be in there.
If they're going to do something this pedestrian and tired with the Patrol Escort, better to just not do it at all. Escorts with 4 forward weapons are a waste of any time spent coding them. Just don't bother, you can get better results slapping beams on a cruiser.
The Patrol Escort deserves better, but it won't get it so just don't even bother making it.
Have you considered that some people actually DO put beams on escorts rather than cannons?
You're coming at this from the viewpoint of maximum forward firepower, IE Cannon build. Someone mentioned they would put beams on it instead, and you go off on an insult tangent because basically how dare they not want maximum FORWARD firepower, and to hell with anything other than maximum FORWARD firepower.
4/3 may not be absolute best for cannons, but may work better for a beam build that allows for a rear torpedo as well if they want. There's more than one way to build ships. Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean its outright garbage.
I should have known this typical reply was coming.. at least it didn't take long. Could have just copy/pasted it from any other ship request thread.
Anytime you suggest that anything be different or in any way special from then what we already have (there are tons for 4/2 or 4/3 Escorts already) everyone just assumes that all you want is 'More Power' or the 'Absolute Max.'
As expected, you totally missed the point.. again, it's on me for expecting anything different. I have been around this board long enough to know better.
I could explain why the fast majority of players don't make 'beamscorts' but you already know, so why bother? Just going to get more of these typical replies that happen anytime any suggestion is made.
Fine.. make the Patrol Escort and make it as mundane and plain as all the other unused Escorts currently in the store.
I don't have the patience for this pointless round and round. At least we boosted our post counts.
except the Nova and K'vort
With all due respect, but i think you're living in a bubble if you say that the majority of players don't make beamscorts.
It may not be the current meta for high end DPS, but in RTFO (not premade) i see beamscorts more often than cannon builds.
Regardless, a beam escort can get the job done on normal and advanced difficulty so it is an equally valid choice for a build.
With sufficient skill it might even do its job at elite difficulty, but those rarely seem to pop for RTFO so i don't have sufficient data to confirm or deny.
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