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What Theory you find more Likelty for Discovery Enterprise to TOS Enterpirse

ryurangerryuranger Member Posts: 533 Arc User
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I been Thinking about TOS Enterprise and Discovery Enterprise and how it can fit into Cannon The One theory I think is more possible is that During the 5 year Mission under Captain Pike The Enterprise had to use an Emergency Saucer Separation and the Star drive was Destroyed and they just used an Old Constitution Class Star-drive to Replace the new one the Enterprise had and refitted the Saucer Drive with some updated system including a Sensor View Screen plus because this Star Drive is less Automated then the one the Enterprise had she had to have another 200 crew members to the roster.
The Other theory was that she went under a 2 year refit on all her systems including a new Bridge Module
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What Theory you find more Likelty for Discovery Enterprise to TOS Enterpirse 8 votes

an Inncodent where the Enterprise had to do Emergency Saucer Separation
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ryuranger 1 vote
a Refit after the 5 years Mission ended
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garaks31crypticarmsmanthay8472jake477warpangelimperialistscptgamer#8560 7 votes
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  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,297 Arc User
    edited September 2019
    I would vote 'other' and say it's simply retcon. For all intents and purposes DIS is set in the primary ST-timeline, so the DIS-Enterprise is the reference for how the Constitution-class now canonically looks, a refit might happen lateron but I doubt they'd roll back to the classic design. And it's probably not going to be important for the future of the show.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,965 Arc User
    Where's the "none of the above" option for "they had a bigger budget so they drew it differently"?

    Kind of like the Klingons.
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  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,297 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    Kind of like the Klingons.

    They don't talk about that though, so don't ask.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited September 2019
    azrael605 wrote: »
    None of the above. The visual differences do not exist in universe.

    Explain that to DS9 and Enterprise.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xka6IYCpj4E

    I am personally hoping for someone to create a video where they replace the TOS Klingons with Discovery Klingons in that clip.

  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,007 Community Moderator
    starkaos wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    None of the above. The visual differences do not exist in universe.

    Explain that to DS9 and Enterprise.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xka6IYCpj4E

    I am personally hoping for someone to create a video where they replace the TOS Klingons with Discovery Klingons in that clip.

    Interestingly enough, ENT explained it away as viral mutation as a result of genetic engineering. :mrgreen:
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    To be honest, it isn't something I tend to dwell on much.

    Though, as unpopular as this opinion may be, I prefer the way the Discovery Enterprise looks over the original.
    I know that opinion is basically sacrilage to some, but eitherway - I LOVE the DSC Constitution design.

    It's better looking that the ugly T0S Connie
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    That is really ugly

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    A much better Connie

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    • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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      the hell is that from? it can't be from any TOS episode, even a remastered one, because it looks too much like an actual ship and not a wood-and-plastic toy, and it isn't from any of the TMP-era movies either because it still has round nacelles​​
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    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
      It's an excellent retcon in this case, to be honest the Matt Jeffries Connie was outdated and obsolete for a modern audience and the same goes for the interior, equipment and uniforms.
      We cannot live in the past, some things have to be retconned because quite frankly, we're not living in the 1960s and TOS has really aged badly.
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      • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
        redeyedraven wrote: »
        I would vote 'other' and say it's simply retcon. For all intents and purposes DIS is set in the primary ST-timeline, so the DIS-Enterprise is the reference for how the Constitution-class now canonically looks, a refit might happen lateron but I doubt they'd roll back to the classic design. And it's probably not going to be important for the future of the show.
        Pretty much this. The DSC Connie doesn't need to become the TOS Connie because as far as we should be concerned, it's the same ship, just with a more modern take; it's no different to how the JJ Connie doesn't look TOS.

        Modern times call for modern changes. A show, ship or set taking place now, but using dated elements simply wouldn't work. DSC is trying to draw in a new crowd of viewers whilst retaining those that grew up with Trek, and I'd say they're doing a stand out job. I know there's a lot of people who don't like the way things are happening, but (in my opinion) that's just stubborn people that're stuck in the past and don't like change.

        I adore the DSC Constitution, and I'd love to see a DSC version of other ships such as the Excelsior, Galaxy, Defiant, Intrepid (etc); though I don't for one minute expect to see them in DSC. Maybe the Picard series, though they may choose to keep the TNG elements there because those ships don't look half as dated as the TOS Connie does.
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      • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,297 Arc User
        Personally I like all versions of the Constitution we've had so far, but I have to admit that the original is the weakest in terms of sheer beauty.

        My favourite being the refit-1701 with the color-scheme from TMP, when the model was still in top-condition.

        The original Jeffries-design to me, is more of a basis though. It was the first, and it has a fascinating simplicity to it - which is also why all following versions do look better to me. The Phase-II-concept was already a huge improvement and evolved into the Refit-version anyway.

        Heck, I remember when I played through Star Trek Legacy back in the day… I really didn't like the start of the game, but when I hopped into the ship-selection for the next mission I was actually really happy to see that the NX-01 was replaced by the NCC-1701. The game was still not really good tho.
      • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
        I accept it as a visual retcon and move on. The specifics of the looks aren't that important, but the general idea is, IMO.
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      • startrekronstartrekron Member Posts: 231 Arc User
        I have a great solution! Just ignore Discovery entirely.
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      • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
        coldnapalm wrote: »
        valoreah wrote: »
        theraven2378 wrote: »
        It's better looking that the ugly T0S Connie
        I beg to differ. The original is classic. It's iconic. It was also filmed using a real physical model, which in my opinion even today CGI cannot replicate perfectly.
        And I say both are ugly pizza cutter shaped abominations. We can all have our own likes and dislikes.
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      • startrekronstartrekron Member Posts: 231 Arc User
        coldnapalm wrote: »
        azrael605 wrote: »
        > @startrekron said:
        > I have a great solution! Just ignore Discovery entirely.

        No part of canon gets ignored.

        Highlander 2 says hi.

        Yes, this!
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      • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc
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        edited October 2019
        I say neither and just chalk it up to distortions from the temporal cold war and other interventions. Who knows, maybe the Krenim shot something they shouldn't have again as well.
      • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
        Or a post FC timeline
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