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thecoffinfly
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Where he tells my character that they "fight like a Klingon" has had me paranoid he's a victim of choH'a' ever since.
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Yeah, there's a lot of lines like that in the game. My personal favorite was "A Step Between Stars" when Koren started talking about 'you'll see what happens when a Klingon gets angry' to my Fed-Klingon. I was like "What, are you implying that I'm not a real Klingon or something?"
Or all the times anyone in First City (especially J'mpok) talks about my KDF characters' House when they're an Orion or a Gorn or such...
Really do think that dialogue in the game needs to pay more attention to species/race rather than just faction, y'know?
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Aye, maybe, but having just watched the latest ep of DISCO, my character, as a Vulcan n' all....Made me wonder if I was J'pock's pawn all long. He, my character has made aa lot of Klingon friends lately....Queue flash backs of surgery and Klingon nips.
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
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I mean "Most Logical"
My Crossfield has a brig full of Klingons...
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I wonder if the devs put that line "fighting like a Klingon" in as a nod..or not, it is very Martok-y as a line on its own.
so can bajorans. Mariah and Snake want to find that docking control officer and eject her out of a docking airlock
Correct.
I assumed he was talking to me in that very Klingon way.
Gowron said the same right before Worf challenged him.
And there was another great example where Picard seemed to have forgotten that Worf was indeed a Klingon: when he asked whether Worf knew Gilbert and Sullivan.
Regardless of faction and species (Gorn, Saurian), the Voth also tend to call any Alliance member a 'mammal'.
Given Worf's history it is not as far fetched as the assumption that Gilbert and Sullivan will still be a household name at all in the 24th century.
I am also pretty sure the OP remark wasn't directed at us.
But I would agree that some cases could improve by having more appropriate dialog. It is done in some parts (e. g. the Octanti will recognize a liberated borg during the "Alliances" mission IIRC). The most obvious one is DS9's traffic controller still talking trash to the very KDF (or KDF aligned Romulan) officer that just saved their very backside by throwing out the occupation force. My personal favorite was during "Spin the Wheel" when I actually scored a dabo, but Leeta kept insisting that it wasn't really a dabo and she just pretended. (I guess that's what everybody refers to as "factory settings")
Does she have a ball of wool hanging from the ceiling in her ready room?
That too indeed.
I am now reminded of Lorca's quote about John Lennon and Elon Musk. Sometimes the writers of Star Trek seem to forget it is all set hundreds of years into the future.
(And before anyone is going to claim that the Beatles will still be recognised in the 2240's or so: young people didn't even recognise McCartney because he was already 'hella old' in 2014
I think people like Mozart and Shakespeare still being well known hundreds of years after their deaths in the real world proves that a mere few hundred years isn't always long enough for things to vanish entirely.
Plus, I'm fairly sure Roy Orbison's work, given it was played at the first contact of Vulcans and Humans, probably got remembered in universe for that historical value.
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Another bad example is "The Doomsday Device", where if you have a FED-Klingon, the game still makes you were a holoemitter, as opposed to just the uniform that is actually needed.
No, that's "Sphere of Influence", the line I mentioned of Koren's is from "A Step Between Stars."
That's like in David Weber's 'Honorverse' stories, where the people of planet Grayson's idea of "classical" music is country-western.
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
So this line is actually directed at the Tzenkethi Captain you're fighting. That's why he asks, "Will you die like one as well?"
In many episodes there are similar lines though, and they are directed at the player. The game often magically assumes that players are from the UFP, not the KDF.
Though Klingon != KDF.
While true, the overall end-result tends to be the same...
Taking the Klingon language or their rituals, or the Vulcan's philosophy with all its symbols and signs as an example; how amazing would it be if Trek came up with an alien type of music that doesn't exist yet in the real world?
It could be the beginning of an entirely new type of music in the real world, just like people are learning the Klingon language.
Heck, there is even an achievement if you manage to activate all consoles while Captain "Get away from that console, mongrel!" is still around and kicking.
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> Where he tells my character that they "fight like a Klingon" has had me paranoid he's a victim of choH'a' ever since.
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> Yeah, there's a lot of lines like that in the game. My personal favorite was "A Step Between Stars" when Koren started talking about 'you'll see what happens when a Klingon gets angry' to my Fed-Klingon. I was like "What, are you implying that I'm not a real Klingon or something?"
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> Or all the times anyone in First City (especially J'mpok) talks about my KDF characters' House when they're an Orion or a Gorn or such...
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> Really do think that dialogue in the game needs to pay more attention to species/race rather than just faction, y'know?
> @turbomagnus said:
> thecoffinfly wrote: »
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> Where he tells my character that they "fight like a Klingon" has had me paranoid he's a victim of choH'a' ever since.
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> Yeah, there's a lot of lines like that in the game. My personal favorite was "A Step Between Stars" when Koren started talking about 'you'll see what happens when a Klingon gets angry' to my Fed-Klingon. I was like "What, are you implying that I'm not a real Klingon or something?"
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> Or all the times anyone in First City (especially J'mpok) talks about my KDF characters' House when they're an Orion or a Gorn or such...
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> Really do think that dialogue in the game needs to pay more attention to species/race rather than just faction, y'know?
First point, fairly sure that Koren (who's something of a hard-line traditionalist), sees a Federation-aligned Klingon is no true Klingon. They haven't undergone traditional training, or grown up in the "true" Klingon way, etc. So to her, you may be the same race, but you're not "Klingon".
Second point, it's possible that referring to a players "House" is used more in the way of antiquity, as a reference to clan, family, group, etc.
Yeah I also think it was pretty obvious that this line was directed at the Tzenkethi ally actually. Still, the other examples given here are still relevant.
That accolade was relatively easy to obtain btw. A few Stasis field copies for one boff, Chronometric diffusion and some good timing were my succesful approach.
I guess cover shields or threat generators (aka Medical generators) could also work there.
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