A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
so, apparently julian bashir is still alive as of 2411 - i had wondered
2411? I thought it was still 2410 in STO timeline,
Also it seems that Rodek son of Noggra(yes I know it's an alias but I'm using it to seperate the 2 personalities) has at least 2 daughters that are implied to be young enough to not be able to fend for themselves, based on that Kor said he would taking them with him rather then dismissing Worf's consern by saying that they're klingon (with implication that a klingon would able defend themselves against any enemies).
There still has to be some form of monetary exchange. In Encounter at Farpoint, Dr. Crusher was interested in a fabric that was not there before. She had it transferred to the ship and charged to her account.
Also, if there is not a monetary exchange rate, where would Judzea Dax gotten the strips of Latinum to play Tongo with Quark and the other Ferengi. I doubt they would let her bet without any money on the table. Also every time the DS9 crew went into Quarks and ordered drinks, I assumed they had to pay for them. Again a Quark did not seem to be the type to give away things for free.
So there may have been no need for a monetary system on earth, or Perhaps even within the Federation. But that would not seem to work with the non-aligned worlds.
I'm glad about this, I always thought the whole episode where Kurn became Rodek was a bit weak, but I like how the Story team here has brought it full circle. Gowron stripping their house was BS anyway, something I would've thought that Martok would've reversed as soon as he was in power, but using it as a carrot for J'm'pok so he won't have to worry about Martok and reassuring him that there won't be a civil war is pretty nice.
Can we PLEASE get some Klingon episodes out of this?
so, apparently julian bashir is still alive as of 2411 - i had wondered
He's an augment, extended longevity is assumed as a basic part of the package. Plus the human lifespan in the 24th century is upwards of 150 years, it's not really a surprise that a superhuman like Bashir is still alive and kicking.
so, apparently julian bashir is still alive as of 2411 - i had wondered
2411? I thought it was still 2410 in STO timeline,
Also it seems that Rodek son of Noggra(yes I know it's an alias but I'm using it to seperate the 2 personalities) has at least 2 daughters that are implied to be young enough to not be able to fend for themselves, based on that Kor said he would taking them with him rather then dismissing Worf's consern by saying that they're klingon (with implication that a klingon would able defend themselves against any enemies).
I took it as he was bringing them along to serve as extra sword-arms.
There still has to be some form of monetary exchange. In Encounter at Farpoint, Dr. Crusher was interested in a fabric that was not there before. She had it transferred to the ship and charged to her account.
Also, if there is not a monetary exchange rate, where would Judzea Dax gotten the strips of Latinum to play Tongo with Quark and the other Ferengi. I doubt they would let her bet without any money on the table. Also every time the DS9 crew went into Quarks and ordered drinks, I assumed they had to pay for them. Again a Quark did not seem to be the type to give away things for free.
So there may have been no need for a monetary system on earth, or Perhaps even within the Federation. But that would not seem to work with the non-aligned worlds.
The Federation doesn't seem to have an internal requirement for money, but apparently they do have money for the purposes external trade. Or in many cases we've seen direct resource allocation. Rare raw materials, equipment, and goods for macroeconomic trading.
On the other hand people who operate outside the Federation tend to earn money from other governments such as Latinum. Indeed Gold Pressed Latinum appears to have dominance as a trade currency.
"Rise like Lions after slumber, In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew, Which in sleep had fallen on you-Ye are many they are few"
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
so, apparently julian bashir is still alive as of 2411 - i had wondered
Bashir was born in 2341. So he's only 70 years old, which in Trek years means "middle age" (Picard was 74 at the end of Nemesis). Humans of the 24th/25th Century live to be at least 140.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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When Shon and Worf talk in, I think, Sphere of Influence, they are talking about a 'chief O'Brien'. I don't know if Worf is close to Miles's children but it could be that he is still a chief of something somewhere.
so, apparently julian bashir is still alive as of 2411 - i had wondered
2411? I thought it was still 2410 in STO timeline,
Also it seems that Rodek son of Noggra(yes I know it's an alias but I'm using it to seperate the 2 personalities) has at least 2 daughters that are implied to be young enough to not be able to fend for themselves, based on that Kor said he would taking them with him rather then dismissing Worf's consern by saying that they're klingon (with implication that a klingon would able defend themselves against any enemies).
I took it as he was bringing them along to serve as extra sword-arms.
I suppose that's possible but I took Worf's line of "what about your family, what about your daughters?" to mean him asking essentially "aren't you putting your girls into danger by heading to the front line and leaving them here?", which would suggest that Kurn's daughters are fairly young (since a klingon that's a teenager or older would most likely be assumed to be able to take care of themselves).
That said what that line really means will probably not be clear until we know how old Kurn's daughters are roughly speaking the exact ages are irrelevant, what's irrelevant is that are assumed to be "adult" by klingon standards as that determines if they're "helpless and need protection" or "extra sword arms" if they show up physically in future episodes we can assume Kurn meant extra sword arms as STO doesn't have "child" character models.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Poor Kurn, first he's brainwashed into Rodek and now he's changed back. I know the first change wasn't really by his consent (from what I remember), but was this one? Maybe being Rodek was better?
And how old do Klingons get? Sure seem to be alot of them hanging around in 2410... Martok had the metaphasic radiation excuse, what about everyone else?!?
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I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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Good story, but also on a side note it would be interesting to get an either PVE or PVP session on STO that pit the claims of House J'mpok vs either House Martok or House Mogh restored. Besides already there are those plotting in the Empire, Torg has made dishonorable actions,
IT'S RIPE FOR AN HONORABLE WAR BROTHER VS BROTHER!
Let the expansion please be as glorious as the day Klingon Academy hit the shelves in stores back in 2000. This would make for an epic campaign on the KDF side. XD
When Shon and Worf talk in, I think, Sphere of Influence, they are talking about a 'chief O'Brien'. I don't know if Worf is close to Miles's children but it could be that he is still a chief of something somewhere.
Kirayoshi appears in that mission as the Chief Engineer of the ENT-F.
Kirayoshi is the second child of Miles and Keiko O'Brien and was born aboard Deep Space 9. He has an older sister named Molly. Dialogue in the mission "Sphere of Influence" mentions that the Chief Engineering Officer of the Federation's flagship, the U.S.S. Enterprise-F, is named O'Brien. According to Kestral's writings in Star Trek Magazine and her dialogue prompts to Dave Rivas for "Sphere of Influence", indicate that this is Kirayoshi.
I must have missed that bit of dialogue then - I only remember the cutscene when they were discussing the gateway in the Jouret system.
I find it a bit odd that Worf would ask captain Shon to send his regards to this O'Brien then, and not ask about Miles. Considering how Worf cut his ties with Starfleet more than ten years ago and that Molly likely didn't get out of the Academy before 2390 ... they could have spent more than ten years on DS9. But that isn't very likely if we take into account that Worf was also functioning as Ambassador to the Klingon Empire and the fact that Miles moved to Earth, reducing the chances of Molly ending up on DS9.
Even if they spent ten years on DS9 together, things were probably more calm during that time than during the Dominion War. And of course Miles and Worf also knew each other from their time on the Enterprise D.
It therefore seems kind of strange that Worf, not having seen much of Starfleet for ten years, knows about the younger O'Brien and then even asks for a message to be delivered, but at the same time show little concern for Miles with whom he has served during very challenging times on the same station that he knew Molly from in the first place. Also adding to that that Worf is in general very proud of his time on the Enterprise.
I would almost think that Miles isn't around anymore then. Either that, or Worf has no need to ask about Miles because he is even more up to date and aware of his former colleagues' and their families' activities and whereabouts than I would expect. Maybe he is involved with the Romulans or the Tal Shiar after all...
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#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
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I wonder how that's possible if money doesn't exist anymore.
Maybe he'll be the next to pay a visit to a Cryptic Studios recording booth.
They get taxed with extra duty, or additional PT. Taxing the free time.
Also it seems that Rodek son of Noggra(yes I know it's an alias but I'm using it to seperate the 2 personalities) has at least 2 daughters that are implied to be young enough to not be able to fend for themselves, based on that Kor said he would taking them with him rather then dismissing Worf's consern by saying that they're klingon (with implication that a klingon would able defend themselves against any enemies).
Except that it's STILL 2410 according to this reddit thread by SalamiInferno: https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/6k1abj/jg_hertzler_joins_the_cast_of_star_trek_online/djilxrx/?context=3
We are still in 2410. Plus, Julian would only be around 69 years of age, which isn't that old (McCoy was 134 at the start of TNG).
Also, if there is not a monetary exchange rate, where would Judzea Dax gotten the strips of Latinum to play Tongo with Quark and the other Ferengi. I doubt they would let her bet without any money on the table. Also every time the DS9 crew went into Quarks and ordered drinks, I assumed they had to pay for them. Again a Quark did not seem to be the type to give away things for free.
So there may have been no need for a monetary system on earth, or Perhaps even within the Federation. But that would not seem to work with the non-aligned worlds.
I'm glad about this, I always thought the whole episode where Kurn became Rodek was a bit weak, but I like how the Story team here has brought it full circle. Gowron stripping their house was BS anyway, something I would've thought that Martok would've reversed as soon as he was in power, but using it as a carrot for J'm'pok so he won't have to worry about Martok and reassuring him that there won't be a civil war is pretty nice.
Can we PLEASE get some Klingon episodes out of this?
He's an augment, extended longevity is assumed as a basic part of the package. Plus the human lifespan in the 24th century is upwards of 150 years, it's not really a surprise that a superhuman like Bashir is still alive and kicking. I imagine that was simply a figure of speech.
A private sigh of relief that a Martok restored to his physical prime doesn't want a rematch and is willing to deal to let him stay in power.
Fortunately Martok always hated the politics of the High Council, part of what made him so awesome.
I took it as he was bringing them along to serve as extra sword-arms.
The Federation doesn't seem to have an internal requirement for money, but apparently they do have money for the purposes external trade. Or in many cases we've seen direct resource allocation. Rare raw materials, equipment, and goods for macroeconomic trading.
On the other hand people who operate outside the Federation tend to earn money from other governments such as Latinum. Indeed Gold Pressed Latinum appears to have dominance as a trade currency.
i was NOT talking about NATURAL death, people!
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Bashir was born in 2341. So he's only 70 years old, which in Trek years means "middle age" (Picard was 74 at the end of Nemesis). Humans of the 24th/25th Century live to be at least 140.
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That said what that line really means will probably not be clear until we know how old Kurn's daughters are roughly speaking the exact ages are irrelevant, what's irrelevant is that are assumed to be "adult" by klingon standards as that determines if they're "helpless and need protection" or "extra sword arms" if they show up physically in future episodes we can assume Kurn meant extra sword arms as STO doesn't have "child" character models.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
And how old do Klingons get? Sure seem to be alot of them hanging around in 2410... Martok had the metaphasic radiation excuse, what about everyone else?!?
Yea. And he gave a little side quest involving bringing a jumja stick as he hadn't had a decent one for a long time if I remember correctly.
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Good story, but also on a side note it would be interesting to get an either PVE or PVP session on STO that pit the claims of House J'mpok vs either House Martok or House Mogh restored. Besides already there are those plotting in the Empire, Torg has made dishonorable actions,
IT'S RIPE FOR AN HONORABLE WAR BROTHER VS BROTHER!
Let the expansion please be as glorious as the day Klingon Academy hit the shelves in stores back in 2000. This would make for an epic campaign on the KDF side. XD
Forgot about that mission. But now I remember.
I must have missed that bit of dialogue then - I only remember the cutscene when they were discussing the gateway in the Jouret system.
I find it a bit odd that Worf would ask captain Shon to send his regards to this O'Brien then, and not ask about Miles. Considering how Worf cut his ties with Starfleet more than ten years ago and that Molly likely didn't get out of the Academy before 2390 ... they could have spent more than ten years on DS9. But that isn't very likely if we take into account that Worf was also functioning as Ambassador to the Klingon Empire and the fact that Miles moved to Earth, reducing the chances of Molly ending up on DS9.
Even if they spent ten years on DS9 together, things were probably more calm during that time than during the Dominion War. And of course Miles and Worf also knew each other from their time on the Enterprise D.
It therefore seems kind of strange that Worf, not having seen much of Starfleet for ten years, knows about the younger O'Brien and then even asks for a message to be delivered, but at the same time show little concern for Miles with whom he has served during very challenging times on the same station that he knew Molly from in the first place. Also adding to that that Worf is in general very proud of his time on the Enterprise.
I would almost think that Miles isn't around anymore then. Either that, or Worf has no need to ask about Miles because he is even more up to date and aware of his former colleagues' and their families' activities and whereabouts than I would expect. Maybe he is involved with the Romulans or the Tal Shiar after all...
Conclusion: there are too many O'Briens and this is confusing lol.
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