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I received an email yesterday telling me that I placed as a runner up in the cruise sweepstakes. I was excited, it wasn't a top prize, mind you but it was a win never the less. Or so I thought. What did I win? Was it something that would be nice to have in game? Nope. Was it something useful? Nope. It was a T1 ship that I already owned and a ton of junk that I couldn't even vendor for EC or share with any other toon on my account.

If it had of been an infinity prize pack where I could choose my own prize, I would have been happy. But no, they picked the prize and for a player that has been with them for going on 4 years, they didn't do a very good job of picking. Needless to say, that is the absolute last time I fall for that. Never again. I hope that someone else who won that prize is happy with it, I really do. But it left a sour taste in my mouth.
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Oh for crying out loud!.....

    You won something and got it for free. It's the thought of winning and receiving that gift that counts.

    What did you expect? Did you read the rules of the competition?

    Stop being so damned entitled and be grateful to them for picking you as a winner. A lot of people didn't win anything, do you see them complaining....
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    Yeah, I got runner up too. Got all excited till I realized that '23rd Century' Enterprise meant Tier 1. :D
    The other rewards are claimable to ONE toon, so best to save it till you make a new one so they get the gear boxes every 10 levels and make better use of the XP boost.

    I agree it's not a spectacular prize, but it's free and only took a couple minutes to enter so YAY! B)

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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,897 Community Moderator
    Yeah, all of the runner up prizes were listed right along with everything else, soooo... yeah.
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  • byozuma#0956 byozuma Member Posts: 502 Arc User
    What is with people these days not being happy that they won something? And something for nothing, at that! It's baffling. Imagine all the people that entered who didn't even get runner-up. They won't be getting anything outside of an email saying, "Thanks for entering, hope you enter the next contest!", if that. This same attitude soured the Lukari player polls. "How dare my ship not win!" "Why didn't my ship get more votes?" When did people become so bloody selfish?
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    I could use the T1 connie on my alt account. If you really don't want it I'd happily take the code (but I guess you already redeemed it?)
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    zip zero zilch the big goose egg
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,577 Community Moderator
    What is with people these days not being happy that they won something? And something for nothing, at that! It's baffling. Imagine all the people that entered who didn't even get runner-up. They won't be getting anything outside of an email saying, "Thanks for entering, hope you enter the next contest!", if that. This same attitude soured the Lukari player polls. "How dare my ship not win!" "Why didn't my ship get more votes?" When did people become so bloody selfish?

    Probably because they don't care about anything but the best shiny. If you already got it, then offer it to someone who DOESN'T have it. I did that with the Mirror Danube I won in a drawing on the Book of Face. Wanted one of the big 26th Century Dreads but got the secondary runabout. Already had it, so I gave that code to a friend who could use it.
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  • arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    Wow, just wow. The prizes were listed from the very beginning, before you even entered. What, did you truly truly expect them to change the prize just for you because your entitled self happened to be one of the winners ?

    Next time, if you don't want the prize they are giving away, don't enter. I won the runner up prize too. A ship I already own, an xp boost that really does me no good as all my toons are lvl 60, and gear packs that also are no good to me. Guess what ? I didn't come in the forums and gripe about it, I just arranged for someone who can actually use that stuff to get it.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    edited July 2017
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    Oh for crying out loud!.....

    You won something and got it for free. It's the thought of winning and receiving that gift that counts.

    What did you expect? Did you read the rules of the competition?

    Stop being so damned entitled and be grateful to them for picking you as a winner. A lot of people didn't win anything, do you see them complaining....

    ^this
    Imagine all the people that entered who didn't even get runner-up. They won't be getting anything outside of an email saying, "Thanks for entering, hope you enter the next contest!", if that.
    Actually all I got was an email from the cruise company confirming my interest and assigning me to a newsletter I had to unsubscribe from
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  • qqqqiiqqqqii Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    knightnblu wrote: »
    But it left a sour taste in my mouth.

    Well, you weren't supposed to EAT it... :neutral:
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    I just saw that I had received an e-mail that tells me I can get a room during the cruise for $1800...

    I don't even have or pay with dollars. And I wouldn't have 1800 of them anyway :p

    At least you have your ship OP ;)
  • dragnridrdragnridr Member Posts: 671 Arc User
    Ya know what, I also got runner up, and guess what......I already own the T1 Connie. So I gave the code to one of my friends and he practically got on his knees to thank me. So, what if I win something I already got a long time ago......That doesn't mean it's a waste. Someone else can use it.

    Guess cry babies are gonna be cry babies. Rules and the prizes were listed right there. No use complaining about it.

    If you got runner up and got a code for a T1 ship you already own, give it to a friend. Who knows, They might not have it yet.
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  • shrimphead2015shrimphead2015 Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    I also received an offer for a discount rate to go on this cruise but there is no way I could afford it anyway. The thing that made me laugh at my own foolishness was that I was gunning for the connie thinking that it was the t6 version they were giving away. I laugh now because I didn't consider the unlikelihood of them giving away 3000 of those ships! At any rate it's better to go into these things with the same attitude most people have when they go into casinos knowing that they are going to lose. At the very least I can follow sto on Twitter and Snapchat now.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    You won something for free. If you can't use it, give it to a friend who can. I don't have the T1 connie, but honestly I really don't care for it so I am pondering if I want to use or give away the code I got

    I just banked it.

    I don't have any characters below 60 either, but I'm planning on cashing it in if they do another recruitment event. That way I can get the rewards on top of the rewards for the event. I'm hoping it will make the sludge through the missions a little less painful. :)
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  • captainkenny1captainkenny1 Member Posts: 326 Arc User
    People who most likely wanted a Lamborghini instead of the Ford Mustang -1967 they got from daddy
  • gt500dotorggt500dotorg Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    Oh for crying out loud!.....

    You won something and got it for free. It's the thought of winning and receiving that gift that counts.

    What did you expect?

    So, someone walks up to you on the street, hands you a shiny piece of excrement, and says "Congratulations! You won!" Then someone else wondering by sees that you're disgusted, and says "Oh for crying out loud! ... It's the thought that counts!", what is your reaction?

    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    Did you read the rules of the competition?

    The rules said nothing about it being Tier 1. In fact, I could have sworn I read something that said it was Tier 6 (although I imagine I'm mistaken). If I had known it was Tier 1, I wouldn't have signed up for the contest, and let someone who didn't already have 8 level 50+ characters enjoy the prize. Now it's claimed on my account because I didn't know before the fact that it was a Tier 1 that I didn't need, so I can't give it away to someone who needs it.

    The reality is that PWE and Cryptic should have given better information about what we were winning.

    Harassing winners of the contest who are unhappy that they were not given accurate information about the prizes before entering is not going to help in any way.
  • dragnridrdragnridr Member Posts: 671 Arc User
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    Oh for crying out loud!.....

    You won something and got it for free. It's the thought of winning and receiving that gift that counts.

    What did you expect?

    So, someone walks up to you on the street, hands you a shiny piece of excrement, and says "Congratulations! You won!" Then someone else wondering by sees that you're disgusted, and says "Oh for crying out loud! ... It's the thought that counts!", what is your reaction?

    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    Did you read the rules of the competition?

    The rules said nothing about it being Tier 1. In fact, I could have sworn I read something that said it was Tier 6 (although I imagine I'm mistaken). If I had known it was Tier 1, I wouldn't have signed up for the contest, and let someone who didn't already have 8 level 50+ characters enjoy the prize. Now it's claimed on my account because I didn't know before the fact that it was a Tier 1 that I didn't need, so I can't give it away to someone who needs it.

    The reality is that PWE and Cryptic should have given better information about what we were winning.

    Harassing winners of the contest who are unhappy that they were not given accurate information about the prizes before entering is not going to help in any way.

    Ok, so you used the code thinking it was a T6 and yet right in the e-mail, it stated that it was the T1 version......Yet, you are complaining that the code is going to waste. I am beginning to doubt if people can actually read nowadays.

    It's more likely that people are seeing "You Win!" and immediately cash in not reading the fine print. That is why I read the e-mail's fine print BEFORE cashing in the code. And that will explain why I gave my code to a friend, since I read the fine print and found out I already bought the ship long ago. And if you read the rules, you would have read that it was a 23rd century constitution cruiser. They never said anything about it being T6 or T1. Which is why you go into those thinking it's a T1 unless SPECIFICALLY stated in the contest rules. If it states in the rules that it's a T6 version and all you get is a T1, then it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. I seriously doubt the pencil pushers would let something like that happen.
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  • gt500dotorggt500dotorg Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    dragnridr wrote: »
    Ok, so you used the code thinking it was a T6 and yet right in the e-mail, it stated that it was the T1 version......Yet, you are complaining that the code is going to waste. I am beginning to doubt if people can actually read nowadays.

    I read it, and assumed it was a typo since nowhere else in the contest info/rules/announcements/etc. did it say that the ship was Tier 1, and I had thought I had read it was Tier 6 when I signed up for the contest.

    If you go back through the contest info/rules/announcements/etc. there is currently no mention of what Tier the ship is. I also can't find the contest page/rules cached anywhere to see if they were edited, which seems rather suspicious since Google caches everything.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    Why should they do that? To "trick you"? Come on, that doesn't make sense.

    I also think, however, that the tier was not mentioned in the original article and the wording could at least be confused with the T6 version since it definitely didn't say "TOS light cruiser" which is the in-game name for the T1 but it said something along the lines of "TOS Constitution Cruiser" so one could have assumed it was a T6 but either way, no damage done. If you don't need or want the price you just continue to exist as you did before. And again, I'll gladly take the code if you or anyone else don't want it, I'd like a T1 connie pig-1.gif​​
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    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    Oh for crying out loud!.....

    You won something and got it for free. It's the thought of winning and receiving that gift that counts.

    What did you expect?

    So, someone walks up to you on the street, hands you a shiny piece of excrement, and says "Congratulations! You won!" Then someone else wondering by sees that you're disgusted, and says "Oh for crying out loud! ... It's the thought that counts!", what is your reaction?

    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    Did you read the rules of the competition?

    The rules said nothing about it being Tier 1. In fact, I could have sworn I read something that said it was Tier 6 (although I imagine I'm mistaken). If I had known it was Tier 1, I wouldn't have signed up for the contest, and let someone who didn't already have 8 level 50+ characters enjoy the prize. Now it's claimed on my account because I didn't know before the fact that it was a Tier 1 that I didn't need, so I can't give it away to someone who needs it.

    The reality is that PWE and Cryptic should have given better information about what we were winning.

    Harassing winners of the contest who are unhappy that they were not given accurate information about the prizes before entering is not going to help in any way.

    Yup....you really are painting yourself in a good light here pal.

    You entered a competition to win something and you won a secondary prize. You should be grateful you won anything at all.
    Always some entitled whiner has to come along and ruin the show by making out that they were cheated or it was unfair, blah blah blah.....

    You comparison of my example to someone giving you a handful of TRIBBLE is utter nonsense because the T1 Connie is hardly something comparable. It's a decent T1 starter ship which grants access to an unending supply of TOS blue phasers for your toons. Sure it might not be the top end T6 version but it's still got it's uses.

    Perhaps if you offered your T1 code to someone who might use it rather than bitching on here people might see you in a better light.

    Right now you just look pitifully ridiculous.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
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    So, someone walks up to you on the street, hands you a shiny piece of excrement, and says "Congratulations! You won!" Then someone else wondering by sees that you're disgusted, and says "Oh for crying out loud! ... It's the thought that counts!", what is your reaction?

    Here's the problem with your example. You entered the contest for a shiny piece of excrement and won it... then complain you won it.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
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  • gt500dotorggt500dotorg Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Why should they do that? To "trick you"? Come on, that doesn't make sense.​​

    In a case like this I would assume that a mistake was made, and PWE or one of the other sponsors didn't want people to post a link to a Google cache version of the page showing it said something they weren't prepared to give.

    Seriously though, I'm not saying that this happened, I'm just saying it's suspicious that there don't appear to be any cached copies of the contest information available online. Usually those cached copies only disappear by request of the website owner (although there are reasons why a third-party can request the information be taken down).

    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    You entered a competition to win something and you won a secondary prize. You should be grateful you won anything at all.
    Always some entitled whiner has to come along and ruin the show by making out that they were cheated or it was unfair, blah blah blah.....

    At what point did anyone say they felt cheated? I'm just trying to say that it would have been nice to know exactly what Tier the ship was before entering the contest. I just took a chance for someone else to win stuff that I don't even need. That doesn't seem fair to the other people who entered the contest, and haven't played the game before.

    You guys seem to be blowing this whole topic way out of proportion.
  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    I just took a chance for someone else to win stuff that I don't even need. That doesn't seem fair to the other people who entered the contest, and haven't played the game before.

    You guys seem to be blowing this whole topic way out of proportion.

    Then if you don't need the code GIVE IT AWAY OR TRADE IT!!
    Geeez...
    Don't come in here bitching and whining about the travesty of you not getting a different prize. The rules were clear enough to the vast majority of players.
    And as many secondary prize winners have posted here already, giving away an unwanted prize is the decent thing to do. Something you fail to grasp.
    But please continue living in your self-entitled dream world.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Ah - but if it had been the T6 Constitution it would have explicitly said TEMPORAL Light Cruiser.

    That's the point, it really didn't use any of the terms the game uses for either the T1 or T6, it basically just said that you can win a constitution cruiser for Star Trek Online. So it is not entirely unbelievable people might have thought they enter for a T6 but the original article didn't really do anything for or against this expectation.​​
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    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • gt500dotorggt500dotorg Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    Then if you don't need the code GIVE IT AWAY OR TRADE IT!!
    Geeez...
    Don't come in here bitching and whining about the travesty of you not getting a different prize. The rules were clear enough to the vast majority of players.

    Then you clearly missed the point behind everything I have been saying. Because I mistakenly thought the ship was the Tier 6 version, I already redeemed it. Thus, code wasted. Thus, the entire reason I'm trying to say that the contest terms were not clear enough.

    Also note that I already said this, so great job reading the first line of my post and rushing to the "Quote" button. Obviously simply disparaging someone rather than attempting to read and understand what they are saying is always the best policy. :)
  • arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    The contest announcement was made on July 5th. The very first question anyone asked about the contest was whether the ship was a T1 or T6 and ambassadorkael gave the definitive answer that very same day.

    Facts don't lie. It was made perfectly clear the day the contest was announced that it was the T1 Connie. Besides that fact there is also...

    The 23rd Century Constitution-Class Cruiser has been in game for quite some time now, as in several months as it was added in game with the advent of Agents of Yesterday and has always been T1. There has never been a T6 ship called 23rd Century Constitution-Class Cruiser.

    So, a ship that has been in game for a long time and has always been T1 is listed as the prize and ambassaddorkael specifically stated it was a T1 the day the contest started so, yeh
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    Eh, this particular poster appears to me to only post clickbait, complaint threads.

    That's all I've ever seen them posting. Some people can't seem to be happy unless they're complaining about something.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
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  • captainkenny1captainkenny1 Member Posts: 326 Arc User
    edited August 2017
    In other words, OP thought wrong or misread and got a T1 connie, doesn't like it. This is the point where you deal with it and move on. But for some reason we are on page 2....seriously?
    So if I misread my lottery ticket numbers and won 5 dollar, should the lottery give me like the jackpot prize,after I complain that I possibly read my numbers wrong?
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