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  • neocatstarneocatstar Member Posts: 240 Arc User
    The 8k per day conversion limit.

    EVIL.............EVIIIIIILLLLLL!!!!!!...............

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iHkqgKMBDc
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    Has anyone metioned JJ yet?
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    Sig? What sig? I don't see any sig.
  • admiralnatadmiralnat Member Posts: 22,432 Arc User
    Has anyone metioned JJ yet?
    Yes.
    The 8k per day conversion limit.

    EVIL.............EVIIIIIILLLLLL!!!!!!...............
    If it weren't for that, I could've had the Galaxy retrofit yesterday, when Sarah got all the dilithium ore I could have possibly needed!
    (Sarah, for all you non-Hawkus and non-Rattlers, is one of my alts.)​​
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    Winning.
    It's what I do. It's what I just did. It's what I'm about to do again. It's being undisputed emperor of an empire that cannot be disproved as the most powerful intergalactic empire in the entire universe; I always win, and everything I've won will definitely be won again... by me. It's my signature move, and thus, it's my signature. Problem, Sonic? Yeah, I mean you, Sonic, because you're being beat up, despite your being super. You can't even hit Shadow back, can you? Nope, he's too strong for you. Of course, I'm not Shadow, I'm the Super Emerald fueled fox that's pulling the strings; trust me, the fight would only be a few frames long if I were in it personally. Oh, and here's something for all you guys thinking you can win Last Post Wins 3.0; trust me, I'll be around a long while after the sun has already consumed the Earth while I sit out with the forum servers on Titan. Yes, I mean Titan... that comparatively little moon orbiting Saturn. It's a nice little place in a version of our solar system where the sun is a lot bigger. I mean, Mars will last longer than your precious Earth, but by then, it'll be one hot planet... and I figure Saturn's moon will be about the right temperate for a super-powered warlord. Oh, and trust me, I packed a lot of rings, and I mean a lot. Trillions, in fact, so I'll never run out of rings to power my super form. Besides, if I start to run out, I can just chaos control more rings into my reach. It's quite easy, really. You should try it. Granted, you'll never have the 7 Super Emeralds that I have in my possession, nor the Master Emerald that I've got hidden away somewhere... absorbed into my body thanks to Sonic logic, but whatever. I win. Again. I'm not kidding, either. Just check Last Post Wins, and if the last post isn't mine, it soon will be. Very, very soon. You can count on it. Seriously. By the way, if you're wondering, there's a really great Super Tails sprite sheet out there... somewhere... by some guy named shadow_91. These sprites are really great. Like, really good. Quality. Just like what I like to see in a sprite sheet. Also, credit to Joe T.E., his Sonic Battle style Super Sonic sprites have a great palette for a Super Sonic being beat up by Super Shadow, who's palette is from a Super Shadow sheet of unknown origin, but it turns out they were "borrowed" from a better sheet made by a certain Domenico. Oh, and the gif is actually a custom made super version of a similar gif, of which there are only 3 or 4 copies to be found by Google, and even then, evidently of an unknown source. Yep, it's one of those things. Stuff people have made, spread around, only for it to vanish and you to be the only person who still has a copy, not even knowing where it came from... like, literally at all. Oh, and anyone notice that Shadow's little chaos snap blast thingies are red and blue now? Yeah, I changed it. Problem, fans of purple? Yeah, I know you got a problem with that one, but you can just deal with it. After all, according to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly... alright, alright, I'll spare you the entire Bee Movie script, just Google it if you want. By the way, ever wonder how your characters would've ended up if they evolved in another universe? Yeah, that. Think about it. Ok, so you probably didn't bother reading up to here, but whatever, here's a surprise for you guys over at ESD (RP) who were crazy enough to read this: Emperor Nat of the mcfreakin' Terran Empire is gonna be right all along! The universe is gonna go BOOM! *Thumbs up to the insanity*
    Oh, now don't tell me you want in on all this! Well, ok. Look this that Egg Pawn hanging outside your window, pointing his laser rifle at you, waiting for my next order. He's doing his part. He helps conquer the weak-minded. He roboticizes the weak-bodied. Heck, he even helps keep the useless people from causing any trouble, but you know what? Join. Find the closest Nataran Empire roboticization center near you and join the ranks, before the ranks find you. Oh, I know, you figure it must be so satisfying to know I basically rule the world now, and you know what? It is, but do you want to know the true definition of satisfaction? Well, let me tell you a little story. One day, you see a brand new event. They're giving out boxes that give old event stuff. Your dilithium is plentiful. You buy a whole lot of Phoenix packs on your main, and open them all. You get one epic token. Then, you decide, that since you have all the Breen ships and don't give a damn about the others, you exchange it for an ultra rare, and grab yourself a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship and for the hell of it, a Voth Bulwark. You open both, leaving the Bulwark in your vast masses of starships as you jump into the bugship and deck it out, deck by deck, into the most awesome Jem'Hadar ship you can. You fly it. You enjoy it. Eventually, you get bored and leave, leaving the old Bulwark never flown... until later. Your main is long complete. Your new alt main, based off some character you pulled out of nothing just to explain away some starship being in service without the command of your dear admiral, is also complete. Mostly. Their reps and doffs are hard at work, getting you stuff. You realize the potential, and head back for your dear admiral, pull the most Voth themed build you can out of thin air, and suit up in your giant ship in the shape of you know what. You head out... and cause all sorts of havoc. Enemies scream out your name as their very life is drained away by your swarms of Aceton Assimilators. They complain to the devs of your OPness when you revive yourself from death every time you die. Do you show any form of mercy? No. After all, this isn't the United Federation of Planets, this is mother frakkin' Starfleet, where you explore strange new worlds and kick butt never kicked before. Oh, and you realize that I just wrote another speech rivaling your own signature. Cool. Oh, wait, that's just the original draft, it is part of my signature now. Oh, and yes, I am aware that I have become a Canadian Regent; one day, sooner than you'd expect, we'll suddenly decide to take over the world and declare an "alliance", and I shall become it's Regent. You know, like the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance in the mirror universe of our beloved Star Trek. Oh, who'll we be taking over with? I dunno, maybe [REDACTED], or maybe aliens from outer space. Guess you'll have to wait and find out, won't we? Until then, don't ask too many questions, or else my Breen allies on Titania might pick up on your -- [REDACTED BY BREEN CONFEDERACY FOR REASONS] Also, psst... keep an eye out for flying Tribbles! Also walls. Big, great walls, separating entire continents apart. Walls patrolled by Tribbles. Flying Tribbles. Flying Nukara Tribbles. Don't worry, it's not like they were on Venus with a herd of Tholians or anything, they just like the extreme heat and brutal weather like acid rain and hurricane force winds as the norm. Oh, and definitely keep your eye out on any two-tailed foxes, because if they ain't glowing, they're definitely an imposter. Possibly an Undine, we caught one of those once in my place once. Oh, and if you find a two-tailed fox that doesn't like the cold... most certainly ask him to say sorry. If he refuses, DESTROY HIM WITH A DOOMSDAY MACHINE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH AGAINST SUCH AN OVERPOWERED IMPOSTER!

    tr;dr, I am winning last post wins 3.0. Thank you for your time.
    Oh, look, an explosion...
  • neocatstarneocatstar Member Posts: 240 Arc User
    admiralnat wrote: »
    If it weren't for that, I could've had the Galaxy retrofit yesterday, when Sarah got all the dilithium ore I could have possibly needed!
    (Sarah, for all you non-Hawkus and non-Rattlers, is one of my alts.)​​

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    ^her?
  • admiralnatadmiralnat Member Posts: 22,432 Arc User
    neocatstar wrote: »
    admiralnat wrote: »
    If it weren't for that, I could've had the Galaxy retrofit yesterday, when Sarah got all the dilithium ore I could have possibly needed!
    (Sarah, for all you non-Hawkus and non-Rattlers, is one of my alts.)

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    ^her?
    No.
    This Sarah.
    Or this Sarah.
    Or any of the other versions of the above Sarahs.​​
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    Winning.
    It's what I do. It's what I just did. It's what I'm about to do again. It's being undisputed emperor of an empire that cannot be disproved as the most powerful intergalactic empire in the entire universe; I always win, and everything I've won will definitely be won again... by me. It's my signature move, and thus, it's my signature. Problem, Sonic? Yeah, I mean you, Sonic, because you're being beat up, despite your being super. You can't even hit Shadow back, can you? Nope, he's too strong for you. Of course, I'm not Shadow, I'm the Super Emerald fueled fox that's pulling the strings; trust me, the fight would only be a few frames long if I were in it personally. Oh, and here's something for all you guys thinking you can win Last Post Wins 3.0; trust me, I'll be around a long while after the sun has already consumed the Earth while I sit out with the forum servers on Titan. Yes, I mean Titan... that comparatively little moon orbiting Saturn. It's a nice little place in a version of our solar system where the sun is a lot bigger. I mean, Mars will last longer than your precious Earth, but by then, it'll be one hot planet... and I figure Saturn's moon will be about the right temperate for a super-powered warlord. Oh, and trust me, I packed a lot of rings, and I mean a lot. Trillions, in fact, so I'll never run out of rings to power my super form. Besides, if I start to run out, I can just chaos control more rings into my reach. It's quite easy, really. You should try it. Granted, you'll never have the 7 Super Emeralds that I have in my possession, nor the Master Emerald that I've got hidden away somewhere... absorbed into my body thanks to Sonic logic, but whatever. I win. Again. I'm not kidding, either. Just check Last Post Wins, and if the last post isn't mine, it soon will be. Very, very soon. You can count on it. Seriously. By the way, if you're wondering, there's a really great Super Tails sprite sheet out there... somewhere... by some guy named shadow_91. These sprites are really great. Like, really good. Quality. Just like what I like to see in a sprite sheet. Also, credit to Joe T.E., his Sonic Battle style Super Sonic sprites have a great palette for a Super Sonic being beat up by Super Shadow, who's palette is from a Super Shadow sheet of unknown origin, but it turns out they were "borrowed" from a better sheet made by a certain Domenico. Oh, and the gif is actually a custom made super version of a similar gif, of which there are only 3 or 4 copies to be found by Google, and even then, evidently of an unknown source. Yep, it's one of those things. Stuff people have made, spread around, only for it to vanish and you to be the only person who still has a copy, not even knowing where it came from... like, literally at all. Oh, and anyone notice that Shadow's little chaos snap blast thingies are red and blue now? Yeah, I changed it. Problem, fans of purple? Yeah, I know you got a problem with that one, but you can just deal with it. After all, according to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly... alright, alright, I'll spare you the entire Bee Movie script, just Google it if you want. By the way, ever wonder how your characters would've ended up if they evolved in another universe? Yeah, that. Think about it. Ok, so you probably didn't bother reading up to here, but whatever, here's a surprise for you guys over at ESD (RP) who were crazy enough to read this: Emperor Nat of the mcfreakin' Terran Empire is gonna be right all along! The universe is gonna go BOOM! *Thumbs up to the insanity*
    Oh, now don't tell me you want in on all this! Well, ok. Look this that Egg Pawn hanging outside your window, pointing his laser rifle at you, waiting for my next order. He's doing his part. He helps conquer the weak-minded. He roboticizes the weak-bodied. Heck, he even helps keep the useless people from causing any trouble, but you know what? Join. Find the closest Nataran Empire roboticization center near you and join the ranks, before the ranks find you. Oh, I know, you figure it must be so satisfying to know I basically rule the world now, and you know what? It is, but do you want to know the true definition of satisfaction? Well, let me tell you a little story. One day, you see a brand new event. They're giving out boxes that give old event stuff. Your dilithium is plentiful. You buy a whole lot of Phoenix packs on your main, and open them all. You get one epic token. Then, you decide, that since you have all the Breen ships and don't give a damn about the others, you exchange it for an ultra rare, and grab yourself a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship and for the hell of it, a Voth Bulwark. You open both, leaving the Bulwark in your vast masses of starships as you jump into the bugship and deck it out, deck by deck, into the most awesome Jem'Hadar ship you can. You fly it. You enjoy it. Eventually, you get bored and leave, leaving the old Bulwark never flown... until later. Your main is long complete. Your new alt main, based off some character you pulled out of nothing just to explain away some starship being in service without the command of your dear admiral, is also complete. Mostly. Their reps and doffs are hard at work, getting you stuff. You realize the potential, and head back for your dear admiral, pull the most Voth themed build you can out of thin air, and suit up in your giant ship in the shape of you know what. You head out... and cause all sorts of havoc. Enemies scream out your name as their very life is drained away by your swarms of Aceton Assimilators. They complain to the devs of your OPness when you revive yourself from death every time you die. Do you show any form of mercy? No. After all, this isn't the United Federation of Planets, this is mother frakkin' Starfleet, where you explore strange new worlds and kick butt never kicked before. Oh, and you realize that I just wrote another speech rivaling your own signature. Cool. Oh, wait, that's just the original draft, it is part of my signature now. Oh, and yes, I am aware that I have become a Canadian Regent; one day, sooner than you'd expect, we'll suddenly decide to take over the world and declare an "alliance", and I shall become it's Regent. You know, like the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance in the mirror universe of our beloved Star Trek. Oh, who'll we be taking over with? I dunno, maybe [REDACTED], or maybe aliens from outer space. Guess you'll have to wait and find out, won't we? Until then, don't ask too many questions, or else my Breen allies on Titania might pick up on your -- [REDACTED BY BREEN CONFEDERACY FOR REASONS] Also, psst... keep an eye out for flying Tribbles! Also walls. Big, great walls, separating entire continents apart. Walls patrolled by Tribbles. Flying Tribbles. Flying Nukara Tribbles. Don't worry, it's not like they were on Venus with a herd of Tholians or anything, they just like the extreme heat and brutal weather like acid rain and hurricane force winds as the norm. Oh, and definitely keep your eye out on any two-tailed foxes, because if they ain't glowing, they're definitely an imposter. Possibly an Undine, we caught one of those once in my place once. Oh, and if you find a two-tailed fox that doesn't like the cold... most certainly ask him to say sorry. If he refuses, DESTROY HIM WITH A DOOMSDAY MACHINE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH AGAINST SUCH AN OVERPOWERED IMPOSTER!

    tr;dr, I am winning last post wins 3.0. Thank you for your time.
    Oh, look, an explosion...
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,768 Arc User
    The concepts of good and evil are human constructs and can't be applied to aliens.
  • neocatstarneocatstar Member Posts: 240 Arc User
    hawku001x wrote: »
    The concepts of good and evil are human constructs and can't be applied to aliens.

    a relevant point in the star trek universe, each civilization prides themselves on their system of laws and government. Vulcans and Romulans are direct descendants, but their views and values are extremely different.

    But, there is still that ingrained sense of honor and dignity among all the species (tied in by that gene puzzle episode)...another time dr bashier was able to appeal to that romulan senator through a sense of honor and the value of one of her peoples lives, even as barbaric as klingons and cardassians are, they will still bend often for the lives of one of their own. Worf faced that wild eyed klingon leader because he was sending his warriors to die off needlessly, that concern for their own kinds lives. (this universes balance of good and evil shared with all races has its neutral ground.
  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,219 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    hawku001x wrote: »
    The concepts of good and evil are human constructs and can't be applied to aliens.

    I agree they are human constructs, but they canbe applied.

    Earlier I stated that doing harm to others for ones' own benefit is Evil. Its corollary is that Good is benefitting others at ones own expense.

    This begins at the family level, where a mother expends great energy to bear the next generation. Biology plays a part, but a mother who chooses to care for a child is demonstrating Good because she expends some of the energy she could use to benefit herself to support her child instead. It also extends to the tribal level where a warrior sacrifices his life so his clan can survive, and to the national level where taxpayers pay for roads and hospitals they personally never use, and to the global level where local resources are made available to people who are completely unknown to those who harvest them.

    One could extrapolate that alien races would have parallel mores, in which giving benefits many, thus driving progress for all, while taking harms many and suppresses progress. They might have different ways of doing things, but the concept of good and evil applies just as well.

    In the case of two or more races, it can be extrapolated that combining and sharing resources and knowledge, while initially a sacrifice, can in the long run benefit both species, whereas the subjugation of one by the other is detrimental to one or both, first by never achieving the benefits of cooperation, then by the ultimate destruction of one or both cultures.

    Good and Evil are universal. I agree that no alien would view them exactly as we do, but there would be good and evil in any species endowed with the freedom to choose.
  • zebgodwinzebgodwin Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    What, we're five pages in and nobody has mentioned Lwaxana Troi yet? :D

    Seriously though, I could easily cast a vote for Mirror Odo. He was one sadistic TRIBBLE. But I won't, because Kai Winn was worse.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,283 Arc User
    lwaxana troi wasn't evil, she was just...vicious, when diplomatizing​​
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    > @zebgodwin said:
    > What, we're five pages in and nobody has mentioned Lwaxana Troi yet? :tongue:

    Not evil, just bloody annoying.
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  • lunastolunasto Member Posts: 774 Arc User
    Lwaxana was my favorite one in the whole freak'n show! She was not evil, she was boss and knew it.
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  • neocatstarneocatstar Member Posts: 240 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    > @zebgodwin said:
    > What, we're five pages in and nobody has mentioned Lwaxana Troi yet? :tongue:

    Not evil, just bloody annoying.

    yeah, i would have to go with annoying
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    ^Yeah, I am so glad that when Majel Barrett guest-starred on Babylon 5, they didn't try to ape Lwaxana.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Given the nature of that role, I suspect the lack of resemblance was intentional.
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  • bwleon7bwleon7 Member Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    I know he felt bad about it afterwards but still, this dude killed 50 billion people. That's pretty messed up. As Picard said. ""We are not qualified to be your judges. We have no law to fit your crime."

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  • josemialotjosemialot Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    I think the founders are the ones I hate the most.
  • neocatstarneocatstar Member Posts: 240 Arc User
    josemialot wrote: »
    I think the founders are the ones I hate the most.

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    ..what beer do you prefer then?
  • neocatstarneocatstar Member Posts: 240 Arc User
    Rival to James T Cat, in "Cat Trek 2"

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