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Ok so the shoot out is between STO and SWTOR, F2P models..Who do you think is better? SWTOR is Star Wars The Old Republic.Sorry about the mistake in the options..
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Star Trek Online
88%
95 votes
Star Wars Knights of The Old Republic
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Both
0%
1 vote
None of the above
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Charging for UI elements is pretty damn user unfriendly.
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(The one great thing SWTOR has over STO is the "collection" thing.... i.e, anything you gain/bind from a lockbox goes into your Collection page, where you can infinitely reclaim it - and, more importantly, pay a bit more Zen to unlock it for your other characters.)
It was a year or more ago, so maybe they changed the f2p model after that, but i really like STO f2p model the best of all MMOs i tried so far...
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The only thing STO could do for me to get better is - possibility of buying subscription (even lifetime) for Zen on PCs...
Also, SWTOR is not Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic which is listed as one of the options. SWTOR is Star Wars The Old Republic. Having said that....
I prefer the Guild Wars 2 model.
^ This...
TOR's f2p *system* if you can call it that sucks...it flat out sucks...you can basically do nothing but experience the basic story in the game. They systematically nerfed it more and more as each expansion came along to the point where you need to sub to do anything or get anything done.
Want good gear? Need to sub...
Want to raid? Need to sub...
Want to PvP? Need to sub...
Want to do anything besides play a RP simulator? Need to sub...
You want to play in battlezone? we limit you but you can pay us to play more in a week..
You want to play in galatic starfighter? we limit you but you can pay us to play more in a week..
You want to play in space missions? we limit you but you can pay us to play more in a week..
You want to play in flashpoints? we limit you but you can pay us to play get more items from it in a week..
You want to play in operations? You pay us..
You want to craft? we limit you but you can pay us to play more in a week..
You want to customize? You pay us..
You want to play expansions? You pay us..
You want to want to report a bug? You pay us..
You want to be on the forums? You pay us..
You want to use high end gear? You pay us..
I can go on with this list but I might have to pay EA & Bioware..
STO is galaxies ahead of SWTOR..
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Sorry about that eant The Old Republic..They basically butchered the main character from the single player KOTOR 1 in their second expansion Shadow of Revan!!
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What TOR's free mode says: "Wait, you're a free player? Get your filthy hands off the better mission rewards! Wanna play as many space on-rail battles as you want like a SW game should? Give your money! Want enough trays to slot your powers? Haha, you're kidding right? OK, in case it wasn't clear at this point, stop being a freeloader scum, we don't want your kind here!"
Meanwhile, I'm playing STO both on PC (where over the years I have tossed in a little cash, because there were things I really wanted) and on XBox. My TOS character on XBox is having some trouble with the Delta Quadrant missions, probably because I concentrated mostly on escorts as he leveled and the free Fed escorts really aren't that great. So, a week or so ago, I set my sights on getting a more-useful T6 ship (the only one I have so far is a Krenim science cruiser, which with its three/three weapon layout can't do enough damage to the Malon battlecruiser to kill it before dying).
Within the next week I expect to have ground up (grinded up? Doesn't seem right) the 2000 Zen I need to pick up the Temporal Agent starter kit (which includes both a T1 Connie and a T6 Paladin-class battle cruiser), entirely through use of dilithium mining, DOff missions, and the Dilithium Exchange.
The two don't even begin to compare...
Original STO beta tester.
I'm F2P player on STO - never had any subscription, and i HAVE account bank (only 100 slots against 120 for subs), i HAVE acces to test servers, and i have 17 or so toons - because STO got Zen Exchange ! - which gives Zen to use in Zen store (in exchange for Dilithium - which is earned in game).
The only thing you actually need subscription here is veteran rewards... too bad you can't buy subscription in Zen Store for PC version - because as far as i know - you actually can do that on consoles!
Edit:
Also - Bubblegirl2015 - OP asked about F2P models, and, while there are some (maybe many) MMOs out there that are nicer, got more content, etc... i doubt you will find anything thats got better F2P model that STO.
They didn't ask "which is the better game", they asked "which has the better free to play model". And anyone who's ever played SWTOR (even the subbed people) will tell you that the f2p mode blows.
(Yes, I played the game subbed for several months. It's a great game, enjoyed it a lot. Playing as a free player sucks vacuum.)
I maybe a Lifetimer on STO. But its better than subbing to a game that doesn't like F2Ps at all. >.>
STO is more generous to free players by a landslide.
Excuse me..What country are you from?? You have no rights to use peoples countries as a point of reference as STO has alot of players from around the globe just as any other MMO and you would be suprised from where all they come..And it seems to me your a SWTOR fanboy..
Let me let you know..I do play the old republic on and off but there is nothing there to really keep me on it as my go to game Vs Trek..Also SWTOR TRIBBLE up the KOTOR franchise left right and center with a gazillion loopholes and Bioware and EA with their game are money mongers..Both franchises are equal in nature in their respective genre..SWTOR at every instance slaps you in the face saying pay us or you dont get anything and that aint no way to treat players or potential subscribers..For me that is a greedy company right there and put me off from even doinjg micro transaction *Which SWTOR basically is survivng off)..Plus why are most of their servers near dead?? People come on as F2P, see the TRIBBLE there is and leave because of the ridiculous restrictions whioch gives no reason to sub..Tell me what good gear can you get for 200,000 credits?? Answer is nothing..If you collect more it goes to escrow and the credits that are yours which are in escrow you have to pay to get it out..SWTOR went F2P because it was dying (they lost 70% in 8 months from launch roughly 1.2B subs) and F2P saved it through micro transactions thats how they are surviving..BUt all in all most of SWTORS servers are dead or close to it and only spike if there is new content..
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It's not. Pretty much every MMO except WoW has failed at trying to stay in business using the P2P model. F2P and microtransactions are what keeps the lights on.
So unless you win Powerball and donate $100 million to PWE to run STO as a charity, your choices are STO as F2P or no STO at all.
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You forgot something. BANK ACCESS PERIOD.
I played TOR, might pop in a few times every once in a while if I feel like it. Pure F2P... You don't even have a BANK, one of the staples of an MMO, without at least giving them $5. So anything you want to hold on to has to be held in your character's inventory taking up space.
TOR Story is great, but F2P model is blackmail.
STO hands down has the best model out there. I started as a sub just before F2P, so I instantly got Account Bank and a few other things. Pretty much every C-Store purchase I've made has been via Dilithium Exchange (Yes... Including the Delta and Temporal Packs, I be a crazy one) and I am basically living proof that if you want ANYTHING in the C-Store, you CAN get it through in game means. The only thing about STO's model is its not "Pay2Win". Its "Pay2HaveNow". Put in the work... even John Doe F2Per can have a T6 Archon Intel Assault Cruiser with Gold mk XIV gear. Literally the only thing you cannot get through in game means is Lifer Perks and a sub.
In contrast STO's main foible is the over abundance of ship releases over actual content to use them in. Lockboxes have been improved to give better trash but drop chances on the good stuff only serves to overinflate the ingame economy. Risky as that can potentially push folk to the 3rd party cash shops we see spammed in mails every day.
For MMO's I always kind of liked the lotro model where you could earn store credits ingame and with enough time buy quest packs. The main story was also unlocked so you could opt to simply follow that and grind the rest of the xp.
Best f2p model to me would be path of exile, stash space is useful but not vital if you focus on leagues (or are a packrat) and the rest of the store is pretty much cosmetics. While they have added the gamble boxes into the cash shop the "useless filler" is mostly stash tabs now so not that useless.
Goldsellers and scammers are found in ANY MMO. Even WoW has 'em.
STO's F2P model is FAR superior!
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When it first went F2P, it was pretty decent. You could play the whole story (1 to 50) and because the game was relatively new, there wasn't much inflation yet and you could buy a lot of cash shop stuff as a preferred (or even free) player.
No, seriously, go play it.
SWTOR becomes incredibly user friendly and lenient once you do. If you want insult go for premium on DCUO and you'll REALLY learn to appreciate other games.