Same thing with filing Commendation Reports at your Starbase. Could be done from your Ready Room.
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> @seaofsorrows said: > Is anyone else tired of this? > > Every new reputation now, whenever you advance a Tier you have to go 'read mission logs on DS9.' Really? they can't just transmit them to me? I can't read them on ESD or better yet in the Captain Quarters on my own ship? > > What is with the obsession with making us all go to DS9 just to read a mission log? I hardly ever go to the Alpha Quadrant, so it's annoying to constantly have to travel there just to click 'next' and then leave. > > Can we please consider allowing us to read these logs from a more convenient location?
As a new player, I say stuff like this pushes people like me away.
I question even that much, myself. It's an old, admittedly crappy Cardassian station not even close to being up to Starfleet standards even before the Dominion war, why would it never be replaced? Logically, there should be a nice roomy and shiny new Starbase there with the original DS9 to the side as a museum / cultural commerce center with all important Starfleet functions headquartered on the new base.
cause bajorans, as little sense as it makes, still don't trust the federation. sisko needs to come back and slap some sense into them.
Why is it up to them? The wormhole is too vital an asset to be left to their whims, nor are they capable of defending it so they need to get out of the way and let those who can defend it do the job. As another poster downthread said, we should move DS9 back to their orbit and post a proper Starbase at the wormhole to provide an adequate defense in case the Dominion ever changes their mind about sticking to the treaty.
cause prime directive, that doesn't make any sense ether but when has it ever.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
I question even that much, myself. It's an old, admittedly crappy Cardassian station not even close to being up to Starfleet standards even before the Dominion war, why would it never be replaced? Logically, there should be a nice roomy and shiny new Starbase there with the original DS9 to the side as a museum / cultural commerce center with all important Starfleet functions headquartered on the new base.
cause bajorans, as little sense as it makes, still don't trust the federation. sisko needs to come back and slap some sense into them.
Why is it up to them? The wormhole is too vital an asset to be left to their whims, nor are they capable of defending it so they need to get out of the way and let those who can defend it do the job. As another poster downthread said, we should move DS9 back to their orbit and post a proper Starbase at the wormhole to provide an adequate defense in case the Dominion ever changes their mind about sticking to the treaty.
I don't think it is up to them. Bajor is a member of the Federation in STO, so the system is Federation space and if the Federation wanted to build a starbase there to defend the wormhole, the bajorans' direct say in the matter would be limited to the votes of their representative(s) in the Federation government.
But then, the Federation has long history of valuing culture over life to an irrational degree so who knows, maybe the bajorans could actually convince a majority vote that their religion should come before the defense of the alpha quadrant.
Of course, Cryptic would never actually replace the iconic station with something non-canon.
I question even that much, myself. It's an old, admittedly crappy Cardassian station not even close to being up to Starfleet standards even before the Dominion war, why would it never be replaced? Logically, there should be a nice roomy and shiny new Starbase there with the original DS9 to the side as a museum / cultural commerce center with all important Starfleet functions headquartered on the new base.
cause bajorans, as little sense as it makes, still don't trust the federation. sisko needs to come back and slap some sense into them.
That's the interesting part.... The Sisko told them to not join the Federation at their first opportunity. They would have joined during DS9 if not for him.
My two cents is that the logs are more flavor to the game and in a game about flying around in space we should actually go places. Not park in one spot and everything comes to us. It defeats the point.
As to the logs themselves. Mirror made sense as the last invasion and most of it is around DS9. Lukari makes sense for a similar reason. There is only one reason the temporal logs to be there though and it is not proximity. Because in game Sierra-39 or K-7 make more sense. But Klingon side characters can't go to those places. Where DS9 is a meeting point for both sides. So they only have to code one location instead of putting the same information in k-7 and Ganalda.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Honestly, the Log Entries are just 'a little something extra' for players.
They have it at DS9, because, if I remember correctly from way back, it had something to do with them being Classified or something and they didn't want anyone else to be able to intercept them. (I think. but someone will likely say it was Mirror/Maco stuff)
Otherwise, since it really is 'something extra' that helps fill out some of that part of the game backstory, it isn't really worth worrying about.
Now a hole in the side of my ship? THAT'S something to worry about.
While I am not looking forward to the many, many trips my AoY char will have to make to DS9 just to read a report, I can see why the Dev Team did things this way. Doing it this way gave them an easy to code solution which only has to be done once instead of two and one half times.
And like the OP, I don't see this as a dealbreaker. It is rather annoying after awhile. But I find the Entire Reputation System annoying.
It has turned the Dev Team into one trick ponies whose creativity and skillset have apparently atrophied to the point where they are no longer able to come up with a better way to introduce new races, ships, and gear. Again, I can understand why they do things this way. It is already ingame, it works and it only requires copy/paste skills rather than proper programming ones. Since I have the option to not play the Reputation System, and since a lot of the gear and abilities in these is...underwhelming... to be polite, this too is not a dealbreaker.
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Eh if you really want to give the rep system a kick in the pants. Put two new reps in but are only available one each Fed or KDF side. Klingon and Federation rep. At level 5 Federation rep a Klingon aligned player could visit ESD without being shot at. (Or getting to shoot guards) And at level 5 Klingon rep a Federation aligned player could visit qo'nos.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Every new reputation now, whenever you advance a Tier you have to go 'read mission logs on DS9.' Really? they can't just transmit them to me? I can't read them on ESD or better yet in the Captain Quarters on my own ship?
What is with the obsession with making us all go to DS9 just to read a mission log? I hardly ever go to the Alpha Quadrant, so it's annoying to constantly have to travel there just to click 'next' and then leave.
Can we please consider allowing us to read these logs from a more convenient location?
best way to do it is wait till your done t5 in the rep then you just have to go once and click five time in a row then your done.
Memory Alpha would be a good place for the logs. Just sayin'.
As long as people weren't required to go read them to clear their mission list, sure.
If we're required to read them, they should just pop them up instead of a notice that it's readable somewhere else.
Ideally, the message would first be in the popup and could then be re-read through some interface somewhere (Memory Alpha, DS9, bridge or whatever) for interested players.
best way to do it is wait till your done t5 in the rep then you just have to go once and click five time in a row then your done.
Yeah, that is exactly what I'm going to do. I would prefer another option, but this is probably going to be the best I'm gonna get. Oh well, life goes on!
I question even that much, myself. It's an old, admittedly crappy Cardassian station not even close to being up to Starfleet standards even before the Dominion war, why would it never be replaced? Logically, there should be a nice roomy and shiny new Starbase there with the original DS9 to the side as a museum / cultural commerce center with all important Starfleet functions headquartered on the new base.
cause bajorans, as little sense as it makes, still don't trust the federation. sisko needs to come back and slap some sense into them.
That's the interesting part.... The Sisko told them to not join the Federation at their first opportunity. They would have joined during DS9 if not for him.
only cause the dominion would have killed them all otherwise. getting bajor to join was the goal from day one.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
not everyone has diplomacy maxed out on all their alts so no, its not "just a transwarp away"
also as someone else said, it would be pretty cool for the "library computer" to get copies of the story blogs
It's not just a transwarp away for everyone, no, but it is still really easy to get there. Like stupidly easy. If you are anywhere in the Beta Quadrant you can simply use the button at the top of your mini-map to change instances and it will put you right by Sol. Then cross to Beta Quadrant and once again change instances, it will take you right to Bajor. Then you can Transwarp back to Sol.
I've been playing the game for about 2 weeks now and already figured this one out.
I don't mind visiting my old office.....and you can hide them from your mission log, so it's not really that annoying...it's really one of those complaints for the sake of complaining
not everyone has diplomacy maxed out on all their alts so no, its not "just a transwarp away"
also as someone else said, it would be pretty cool for the "library computer" to get copies of the story blogs
It's not just a transwarp away for everyone, no, but it is still really easy to get there. Like stupidly easy. If you are anywhere in the Beta Quadrant you can simply use the button at the top of your mini-map to change instances and it will put you right by Sol. Then cross to Beta Quadrant and once again change instances, it will take you right to Bajor. Then you can Transwarp back to Sol.
I've been playing the game for about 2 weeks now and already figured this one out.
I don't have Diplomacy done yet on my Rom alt. Nevertheless, you can use the free transwarp to Defera, exit the system, and you're as good as on top of DS9.
not everyone has diplomacy maxed out on all their alts so no, its not "just a transwarp away"
also as someone else said, it would be pretty cool for the "library computer" to get copies of the story blogs
It's not just a transwarp away for everyone, no, but it is still really easy to get there. Like stupidly easy. If you are anywhere in the Beta Quadrant you can simply use the button at the top of your mini-map to change instances and it will put you right by Sol. Then cross to Beta Quadrant and once again change instances, it will take you right to Bajor. Then you can Transwarp back to Sol.
I've been playing the game for about 2 weeks now and already figured this one out.
Congratulations.
Too bad the issue has nothing to do with "figuring it out." It's simply yet another pointless hoop to jump through for no good reason.
not everyone has diplomacy maxed out on all their alts so no, its not "just a transwarp away"
also as someone else said, it would be pretty cool for the "library computer" to get copies of the story blogs
It's not just a transwarp away for everyone, no, but it is still really easy to get there. Like stupidly easy. If you are anywhere in the Beta Quadrant you can simply use the button at the top of your mini-map to change instances and it will put you right by Sol. Then cross to Beta Quadrant and once again change instances, it will take you right to Bajor. Then you can Transwarp back to Sol.
I've been playing the game for about 2 weeks now and already figured this one out.
Congratulations.
Too bad the issue has nothing to do with "figuring it out." It's simply yet another pointless hoop to jump through for no good reason.
Well, with the number of people complaining they have to fly all the way there, some people obviously have not figured this out. Sorry for trying to present an easier way for people to get this done. Yeah, it's just a workaround and doesn't solve the issue, but there is nothing we can really do to solve the issue and it appears several people had not figured this little workaround out yet. Sure, it would be nice if they changed it to something a bit easier, but this works for now.
not everyone has diplomacy maxed out on all their alts so no, its not "just a transwarp away"
also as someone else said, it would be pretty cool for the "library computer" to get copies of the story blogs
It's not just a transwarp away for everyone, no, but it is still really easy to get there. Like stupidly easy. If you are anywhere in the Beta Quadrant you can simply use the button at the top of your mini-map to change instances and it will put you right by Sol. Then cross to Beta Quadrant and once again change instances, it will take you right to Bajor. Then you can Transwarp back to Sol.
I've been playing the game for about 2 weeks now and already figured this one out.
Congratulations.
Too bad the issue has nothing to do with "figuring it out." It's simply yet another pointless hoop to jump through for no good reason.
not everyone has diplomacy maxed out on all their alts so no, its not "just a transwarp away"
also as someone else said, it would be pretty cool for the "library computer" to get copies of the story blogs
It's not just a transwarp away for everyone, no, but it is still really easy to get there. Like stupidly easy. If you are anywhere in the Beta Quadrant you can simply use the button at the top of your mini-map to change instances and it will put you right by Sol. Then cross to Beta Quadrant and once again change instances, it will take you right to Bajor. Then you can Transwarp back to Sol.
I've been playing the game for about 2 weeks now and already figured this one out.
I don't have Diplomacy done yet on my Rom alt. Nevertheless, you can use the free transwarp to Defera, exit the system, and you're as good as on top of DS9.
Has nothing to do with Diplomacy, just the game mechanics on changing instances. I don't have diplomancy done on any of my characters as I'm still really new. I don't know what this free transwarp to Defara you speak of is either as the only option I have at all to transwarp is to Sol, which is pretty pointless if you are anywhere in the Beta Quadrant as you can just change instances and be there just as quick. Then just hop on over to Beta Quadrant and change instances again and you are practically at DS9 in no time at all.
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l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
By no means do I think this is a priority issue, just a slight annoyance that might be worth revising when someone has time.
Nothing more, nothing less. Thanks to those that have offered actual opinions on the issue one way or another.
> Is anyone else tired of this?
>
> Every new reputation now, whenever you advance a Tier you have to go 'read mission logs on DS9.' Really? they can't just transmit them to me? I can't read them on ESD or better yet in the Captain Quarters on my own ship?
>
> What is with the obsession with making us all go to DS9 just to read a mission log? I hardly ever go to the Alpha Quadrant, so it's annoying to constantly have to travel there just to click 'next' and then leave.
>
> Can we please consider allowing us to read these logs from a more convenient location?
As a new player, I say stuff like this pushes people like me away.
cause prime directive, that doesn't make any sense ether but when has it ever.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
But then, the Federation has long history of valuing culture over life to an irrational degree so who knows, maybe the bajorans could actually convince a majority vote that their religion should come before the defense of the alpha quadrant.
Of course, Cryptic would never actually replace the iconic station with something non-canon.
My character Tsin'xing
As to the logs themselves. Mirror made sense as the last invasion and most of it is around DS9. Lukari makes sense for a similar reason. There is only one reason the temporal logs to be there though and it is not proximity. Because in game Sierra-39 or K-7 make more sense. But Klingon side characters can't go to those places. Where DS9 is a meeting point for both sides. So they only have to code one location instead of putting the same information in k-7 and Ganalda.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
They have it at DS9, because, if I remember correctly from way back, it had something to do with them being Classified or something and they didn't want anyone else to be able to intercept them. (I think. but someone will likely say it was Mirror/Maco stuff)
Otherwise, since it really is 'something extra' that helps fill out some of that part of the game backstory, it isn't really worth worrying about.
Now a hole in the side of my ship? THAT'S something to worry about.
And like the OP, I don't see this as a dealbreaker. It is rather annoying after awhile. But I find the Entire Reputation System annoying.
It has turned the Dev Team into one trick ponies whose creativity and skillset have apparently atrophied to the point where they are no longer able to come up with a better way to introduce new races, ships, and gear. Again, I can understand why they do things this way. It is already ingame, it works and it only requires copy/paste skills rather than proper programming ones. Since I have the option to not play the Reputation System, and since a lot of the gear and abilities in these is...underwhelming... to be polite, this too is not a dealbreaker.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
best way to do it is wait till your done t5 in the rep then you just have to go once and click five time in a row then your done.
If we're required to read them, they should just pop them up instead of a notice that it's readable somewhere else.
Ideally, the message would first be in the popup and could then be re-read through some interface somewhere (Memory Alpha, DS9, bridge or whatever) for interested players.
Yeah, that is exactly what I'm going to do. I would prefer another option, but this is probably going to be the best I'm gonna get. Oh well, life goes on!
only cause the dominion would have killed them all otherwise. getting bajor to join was the goal from day one.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
It's not just a transwarp away for everyone, no, but it is still really easy to get there. Like stupidly easy. If you are anywhere in the Beta Quadrant you can simply use the button at the top of your mini-map to change instances and it will put you right by Sol. Then cross to Beta Quadrant and once again change instances, it will take you right to Bajor. Then you can Transwarp back to Sol.
I've been playing the game for about 2 weeks now and already figured this one out.
I don't have Diplomacy done yet on my Rom alt. Nevertheless, you can use the free transwarp to Defera, exit the system, and you're as good as on top of DS9.
Too bad the issue has nothing to do with "figuring it out." It's simply yet another pointless hoop to jump through for no good reason.
Well, with the number of people complaining they have to fly all the way there, some people obviously have not figured this out. Sorry for trying to present an easier way for people to get this done. Yeah, it's just a workaround and doesn't solve the issue, but there is nothing we can really do to solve the issue and it appears several people had not figured this little workaround out yet. Sure, it would be nice if they changed it to something a bit easier, but this works for now.
^This
Has nothing to do with Diplomacy, just the game mechanics on changing instances. I don't have diplomancy done on any of my characters as I'm still really new. I don't know what this free transwarp to Defara you speak of is either as the only option I have at all to transwarp is to Sol, which is pretty pointless if you are anywhere in the Beta Quadrant as you can just change instances and be there just as quick. Then just hop on over to Beta Quadrant and change instances again and you are practically at DS9 in no time at all.