1. Patton
2. Kelly's Heroes
3. The Dirty Dozen
4. The Great Escape
5. The Green Berets
6. Stalag 17
7. Heartbreak Ridge
8. Hellcats of The Navy
9. The Fighting Seabees
10. Band of Brothers (technically a series/mini-series, but still...)
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
10) Black Hawk Down
9) Hamburger Hill
8) Platoon
7) A Bridge Too Far
6) The Bridge At Remagen
5) The Enemy Below
4) Master and Commander Far Side of the World
3) The Battle of Britain
2) The Blue Max
1) Patton
Honorable Mentions are We Were Soldiers, Waterloo (1970) and The 300 Spartans (1962)
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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1. Glory
2. Braveheart
3. Patton
4. The Longest Day
5. Tora Tora Tora
6. Full Metal Jacket
7. The Sea Hawk
8. Das Boot
9. Empire of the sun
10. Apocalypse Now
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
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I hate to say it but I think Pearl Harbor barely qualifies. Might be closer to a love story in a war setting than a full war movie. But then again I haven't seen it.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I don't think I've got 10... but I'll give what I can.
In no particular order:
Midway
Monuments Men
Fury
Red Tails
Battle Los Angeles (still technically counts as a war movie, even if its Marines vs Aliens)
Fury, excellent movie. All the tanks they used in that movie were all actual WW2 tanks, even that Tiger.
Interesting story with the Fury Tiger, it was a Tiger tank captured in the 1943 Tunisian campaign by the British. It's the last operational Tiger in the world and the producers were told to look after it.
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"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Well, it happens that I like a lot of war movies. To many.
Here is my ten selected as 'top' in no special order, followed by a pile of honorable mentions.
Top Ten;
Wizards
Rules of Engagement
Cross of Iron
Das Boot
The Hurt Locker
The Sand Pebbles
The Beast
Power Play
Flesh and Blood
Zulu
Also good;
Masada
Cast A Giant Shadow
A Bridge Too Far
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Midway
The Wild Geese
Enemy At The Gates
Lawrence of Arabia
Red Dawn
Kelly's Heroes
Patton
Heartbreak Ridge
Uncommon Valor
Full Metal Jacket
I can be critical of all of them, but they all have something going for them as well.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
heh! Yeah, I saw the first movie six times in the theater and thought I was crazy to go so many times. Then I found out that so many others were going 10 or 20 times that, and I suddenly felt tame and old fashioned.
When we got it on VHS we put it on and left it running with the volume up, while we did chores around the house.
I'm still can't quite call it a war movie for my own definition, even with 'war' right there in the name. I will support the right of others to do so.
Tempted to start a 'who would win' discussion, but those never end well for anyone ... besides, it should be obvious.
Qapla'!
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Tempted to start a 'who would win' discussion, but those never end well for anyone ... besides, it should be obvious.
It would be best to compare factions with similar combat styles. Star Wars has large capship broadsides and fighters darting about. Star Trek has ships in what I call a "knife fight", trying to outmaneuver each other while trading blows like during the Dominion War.
So if you wanted to do that kind of thread it would be best to compare Wars to something like Wing Commander or even Halo rather than Trek.
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Tempted to start a 'who would win' discussion, but those never end well for anyone ... besides, it should be obvious.
It would be best to compare factions with similar combat styles. Star Wars has large capship broadsides and fighters darting about. Star Trek has ships in what I call a "knife fight", trying to outmaneuver each other while trading blows like during the Dominion War.
So if you wanted to do that kind of thread it would be best to compare Wars to something like Wing Commander or even Halo rather than Trek.
Yeah, I think so too most of the time. Plus it can quickly turn into a 'canon' tech debate, and most science fiction got a D- in science, so you really have a hard time with that sort of thing.
BSG vs SW might be a better one, except the more recent BSG tech was more grounded than SW, so maybe another guideline should be comparing them based on reality level along with combat style?
Qapla'!
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True. And... I'm pretty sure a Halo UNSC Sniper Rifle can STILL punch through Stormtrooper armor despite being supposedly "impervious to projectiles" because of the sheer size and power that thing has.
Anyways... it might still be possible to compare the KEWs from nBSG to Star Wars tech. Not the first time projectiles were used in space. One notable, but probably obscure, example is the Stormfire Cannon from Wing Commander 4. Another more well known example would be the MACs from Halo.
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True. And... I'm pretty sure a Halo UNSC Sniper Rifle can STILL punch through Stormtrooper armor despite being supposedly "impervious to projectiles" because of the sheer size and power that thing has.
Anyways... it might still be possible to compare the KEWs from nBSG to Star Wars tech. Not the first time projectiles were used in space. One notable, but probably obscure, example is the Stormfire Cannon from Wing Commander 4. Another more well known example would be the MACs from Halo.
Ahh Wing Commander! I only ever played the first game, but I loved it.
I agree about storm trooper armor. I don't care how tough your armor is if the 'egg' inside gets moved violently enough it still gets wrecked. I know from other experience that just the kinetic energy of a disarmed TOW missile can knock out the crew of a modern M1 series tank, without breaching the armor. Nobody should get smug about the word 'impenetrable'.
Mass Effect is one I'd want to play with comparing.
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Longest Day - The film tried to show the wide aspect, POVs from the many nations involved in the massive engagement.
Sands of Iwo Jima - Semper Fi!
Letters from Iwo Jima - A very interesting take by Clint Eastwood, showing the Japanese POV of the Iwo Jima campaign and opposite his other movie, Flags of Our Fathers. IMO, "Letters" is the far superior movie of the two by being more even in its story and better put together; It "flowed" better. "Flags" was a bit jarring in how it yanked you back and forth from current and flashback events.
Saving Private Ryan - Set the standard of a war movie when it released. Yes, I know about the truly B.S. moments but you cannot ignore how this movie was put together and the spectacle of it.
Black Hawk Down - Once you sat in for Ridley Scott's BHD, it was a tense movie throughout. By the time it finished in the theater, I felt drained by the events. This was good IMO for the movie giving a feel of the events.
Das Boot - The definitive submarine movie and gives a feel of terror for being in a tin can with things above you trying to sink you.
Cross of Iron - This is actually another anti-war movie (same as Das Boot), but Cross of Iron was amazing. First, it's a western made WWII movie from the German POV. Rare enough. Secondly, it's focused on the Eastern Front. Doubly rare for western movies. Can't go wrong with this movie.
Band of Brothers - Put out in a few years after Saving Private Ryan, we follow an airborne unit from Normandy until the end of the war in Europe.
The Pacific - Follows several Marines in the Pacific Theater of WWII from the start of the war until the end. Combat between the Allies and the Japanese is a stark contrast to the more "civil" fighting between the Allies and the Germans, the conditions far worse as men are fighting in the middle of nowhere on a godforsaken, hot and humid island.
Fury - A very unique movie, even for American made war movies, since it is centered around an M4 Sherman tank crew late in the war. The only problem I had was the final engagement because it went beyond ridiculousness but the rest of this movie showed life as a tank crew. Very few movies anywhere do that. Also a good excuse for a bit of "WWII Tank TRIBBLE" with Shermans and a bonafide, running Tiger I. Not even Saving Private Ryan got a REAL, running Tiger I.
I don't really watch many war movies so I will not be listing 10 movies. Also, my list excludes "ancient war movies" so no Braveheart or 300. In no particular order:
1. Glory
2. Saving Private Ryan
3. Enemy At The Gates
4. Schindler's List
5. Midway
6. Hotel Rwanda
7. The Hunt For Red October
8. Crimson Tide
I don't really watch many war movies so I will not be listing 10 movies. Also, my list excludes "ancient war movies" so no Braveheart or 300. In no particular order:
1. Glory
2. Saving Private Ryan
3. Enemy At The Gates
4. Schindler's List
5. Midway
6. Hotel Rwanda
7. The Hunt For Red October
8. Crimson Tide
Oh, I forgot about Glory! That's a good one! It also put Denzel Washington on the map as an actor.
Well yes, "Saving Private Ryan", of course! It deserves mentioning!
There are so many that are actually good films, it is a bit hard to choose.
Some on the other hand, are so completely lousy with historical inaccuracies, or just plain stupid stuff going on that you can't call them a good war movie. A lot of those are still fun if you are in the right mood.
I'm gonna throw one out to see if anyone reacts.
"Zone Troopers"
There, I did it!
When I come to my senses later, I will feel bad about this, I promise.
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2. Kelly's Heroes
3. The Dirty Dozen
4. The Great Escape
5. The Green Berets
6. Stalag 17
7. Heartbreak Ridge
8. Hellcats of The Navy
9. The Fighting Seabees
10. Band of Brothers (technically a series/mini-series, but still...)
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
10) Black Hawk Down
9) Hamburger Hill
8) Platoon
7) A Bridge Too Far
6) The Bridge At Remagen
5) The Enemy Below
4) Master and Commander Far Side of the World
3) The Battle of Britain
2) The Blue Max
1) Patton
Honorable Mentions are We Were Soldiers, Waterloo (1970) and The 300 Spartans (1962)
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
In no particular order:
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1. Glory
2. Braveheart
3. Patton
4. The Longest Day
5. Tora Tora Tora
6. Full Metal Jacket
7. The Sea Hawk
8. Das Boot
9. Empire of the sun
10. Apocalypse Now
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
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#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Fury, excellent movie. All the tanks they used in that movie were all actual WW2 tanks, even that Tiger.
Interesting story with the Fury Tiger, it was a Tiger tank captured in the 1943 Tunisian campaign by the British. It's the last operational Tiger in the world and the producers were told to look after it.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Here is my ten selected as 'top' in no special order, followed by a pile of honorable mentions.
Top Ten;
Wizards
Rules of Engagement
Cross of Iron
Das Boot
The Hurt Locker
The Sand Pebbles
The Beast
Power Play
Flesh and Blood
Zulu
Also good;
Masada
Cast A Giant Shadow
A Bridge Too Far
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Midway
The Wild Geese
Enemy At The Gates
Lawrence of Arabia
Red Dawn
Kelly's Heroes
Patton
Heartbreak Ridge
Uncommon Valor
Full Metal Jacket
I can be critical of all of them, but they all have something going for them as well.
Qapla'!
I forgot to mention that one.
Qapla'!
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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heh! Yeah, I saw the first movie six times in the theater and thought I was crazy to go so many times. Then I found out that so many others were going 10 or 20 times that, and I suddenly felt tame and old fashioned.
When we got it on VHS we put it on and left it running with the volume up, while we did chores around the house.
I'm still can't quite call it a war movie for my own definition, even with 'war' right there in the name. I will support the right of others to do so.
Tempted to start a 'who would win' discussion, but those never end well for anyone ... besides, it should be obvious.
Qapla'!
It would be best to compare factions with similar combat styles. Star Wars has large capship broadsides and fighters darting about. Star Trek has ships in what I call a "knife fight", trying to outmaneuver each other while trading blows like during the Dominion War.
So if you wanted to do that kind of thread it would be best to compare Wars to something like Wing Commander or even Halo rather than Trek.
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Yeah, I think so too most of the time. Plus it can quickly turn into a 'canon' tech debate, and most science fiction got a D- in science, so you really have a hard time with that sort of thing.
BSG vs SW might be a better one, except the more recent BSG tech was more grounded than SW, so maybe another guideline should be comparing them based on reality level along with combat style?
Qapla'!
Anyways... it might still be possible to compare the KEWs from nBSG to Star Wars tech. Not the first time projectiles were used in space. One notable, but probably obscure, example is the Stormfire Cannon from Wing Commander 4. Another more well known example would be the MACs from Halo.
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Ahh Wing Commander! I only ever played the first game, but I loved it.
I agree about storm trooper armor. I don't care how tough your armor is if the 'egg' inside gets moved violently enough it still gets wrecked. I know from other experience that just the kinetic energy of a disarmed TOW missile can knock out the crew of a modern M1 series tank, without breaching the armor. Nobody should get smug about the word 'impenetrable'.
Mass Effect is one I'd want to play with comparing.
Qapla'!
Def a legit war movie even if it's sci-fi.
My character Tsin'xing
yeah, that needs to get mentioned also. Dang! ten isn't enough!
Qapla'!
Santos may have been Air Force... but she fought just as hard as the Marines in that group. I think they accepted her as an honorary Marine.
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Before any other trait, a warrior must have the will to be one. She did!
Qapla'!
"THAT HURT!"
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Longest Day - The film tried to show the wide aspect, POVs from the many nations involved in the massive engagement.
Sands of Iwo Jima - Semper Fi!
Letters from Iwo Jima - A very interesting take by Clint Eastwood, showing the Japanese POV of the Iwo Jima campaign and opposite his other movie, Flags of Our Fathers. IMO, "Letters" is the far superior movie of the two by being more even in its story and better put together; It "flowed" better. "Flags" was a bit jarring in how it yanked you back and forth from current and flashback events.
Saving Private Ryan - Set the standard of a war movie when it released. Yes, I know about the truly B.S. moments but you cannot ignore how this movie was put together and the spectacle of it.
Black Hawk Down - Once you sat in for Ridley Scott's BHD, it was a tense movie throughout. By the time it finished in the theater, I felt drained by the events. This was good IMO for the movie giving a feel of the events.
Das Boot - The definitive submarine movie and gives a feel of terror for being in a tin can with things above you trying to sink you.
Cross of Iron - This is actually another anti-war movie (same as Das Boot), but Cross of Iron was amazing. First, it's a western made WWII movie from the German POV. Rare enough. Secondly, it's focused on the Eastern Front. Doubly rare for western movies. Can't go wrong with this movie.
Band of Brothers - Put out in a few years after Saving Private Ryan, we follow an airborne unit from Normandy until the end of the war in Europe.
The Pacific - Follows several Marines in the Pacific Theater of WWII from the start of the war until the end. Combat between the Allies and the Japanese is a stark contrast to the more "civil" fighting between the Allies and the Germans, the conditions far worse as men are fighting in the middle of nowhere on a godforsaken, hot and humid island.
Fury - A very unique movie, even for American made war movies, since it is centered around an M4 Sherman tank crew late in the war. The only problem I had was the final engagement because it went beyond ridiculousness but the rest of this movie showed life as a tank crew. Very few movies anywhere do that. Also a good excuse for a bit of "WWII Tank TRIBBLE" with Shermans and a bonafide, running Tiger I. Not even Saving Private Ryan got a REAL, running Tiger I.
1. Glory
2. Saving Private Ryan
3. Enemy At The Gates
4. Schindler's List
5. Midway
6. Hotel Rwanda
7. The Hunt For Red October
8. Crimson Tide
Oh, I forgot about Glory! That's a good one! It also put Denzel Washington on the map as an actor.
Well yes, "Saving Private Ryan", of course! It deserves mentioning!
There are so many that are actually good films, it is a bit hard to choose.
Some on the other hand, are so completely lousy with historical inaccuracies, or just plain stupid stuff going on that you can't call them a good war movie. A lot of those are still fun if you are in the right mood.
I'm gonna throw one out to see if anyone reacts.
"Zone Troopers"
There, I did it!
When I come to my senses later, I will feel bad about this, I promise.
Qapla'!