Personally, I think so between the extra ship, character and other slots, six ships, numerous costume pieces, a bridge officer, two new races that you can create captains as...
I just wish that one of these times it comes on sale I'd actually have the money to get it...
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Personally, I think so between the extra ship, character and other slots, six ships, numerous costume pieces, a bridge officer, two new races that you can create captains as...
I just wish that one of these times it comes on sale I'd actually have the money to get it...
Ditto!!
OP. The LTS is worth getting as the game has lots of life in the old girl yet.
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At this point in the games life cycle, I just don't see a life time membership as being worth it. The perks aren't anything great, and you'll spend less money just subscribing for one month for the perks you get to keep and then buying what you want from the C-Store at end game.
If this was a couple years ago.. sure. Today? I think you would have to be mad to purchase a LTS.
Yes if you want the ships and plan to create captains in all factions.
The 3 T6 ships (1 per faction) are nice, the android boff has your choice of gender and career and has self-revival, the T5 token lets you add something fun like the Fekihri carrier for KDF. Plus you get to be a Space Hobbit! (Well OK, that's an anti-benefit.)
For leveling new alts, you get +5% XP which lets you skip any grinding. Plus you get an extra 5-10 respec tokens as you level up and extra character slots.
Well if it lasts another two or three years even, then I would say the sale price makes saying 'yes' a no-brainer. You will get a lot of the purchase back when you consider that every month you will get 500 Zen. Grinding is optional to some degree, and you can still buy C-Store ships for end game. Just save up your zen, or if you like, or grind for the difference if you are impatient.
If it lasts only another year, which I would say is a fairly pessimistic prediction, you still get back 6000 zen, and so you could say that a years worth of fun is about $140.00 or about $12.00 a month. I see this game being around longer than that, so really, the deal just gets better and better as time goes by. In three years you are really only out $19.99, and by the end of a fourth year you are +$40.00 in ships, or other C-Store stuff.
There are a lot of ways to pass the time, but if you look, a lot of those cost money as well. Often a lot more money. So yeah, seaofsorrows has a solid point, you can get a lot for just a single month that will still be there afterwards, but the lifetime sub keeps paying you back. I don't see it as much of a gamble.
Eat out one less time each month this year, and you have most likely paid for it.
I paid full price years ago. I believe i've saved money because of it. I think there's plenty of life left in this game. The Zen stipend is great. I currently have 5k zen or so atm just from that stipend. I think it's still worth getting but perhaps only when it's on sale as it is now.
At this point in the games life cycle, I just don't see a life time membership as being worth it. The perks aren't anything great, and you'll spend less money just subscribing for one month for the perks you get to keep and then buying what you want from the C-Store at end game.
If this was a couple years ago.. sure. Today? I think you would have to be mad to purchase a LTS.
I ignored this exact advice when I bought my LTS 2 (or was it 3?) years ago.
Glad I did.
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If you plan on doing a lot of toons, then yeah. The extras are of course multiplied by the # of alts you make. But if you use one toon, it's not really a good idea. Just think of all the stuff you could buy that 1 toon with $200 worth of Zen (25,000 Zen if bought during a sale.)
An alternative for leveling infrequent toons is to go Gold for 1 month, get that toon(s) leveled w/ the perks. Cause really, other than the stipend and Vet ship, after you reach max level, being anything but a F2P player doesn't really get you much.
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To me the lifer perks never stood out in particular, at least not since sto went f2p. Before it was a nice deal, now you have a lot of perks that sound nice on paper but are ultimately negligible (bonus xp is hardly worth it today, shuttles are severly underused, character slots are cheap, titles and accolades are kinda useless etc). Only thing standing out are the veteran ships really, but even then it's a big price tag in my opinion.
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At this point in the games life cycle, I just don't see a life time membership as being worth it. The perks aren't anything great, and you'll spend less money just subscribing for one month for the perks you get to keep and then buying what you want from the C-Store at end game.
If this was a couple years ago.. sure. Today? I think you would have to be mad to purchase a LTS.
I ignored this exact advice when I bought my LTS 2 (or was it 3?) years ago.
Glad I did.
one day they will hit the nail. long after seaquest will be playable in the system ..
The only thing that makes the LTS really useful is if a person suffers from the severe ailment known as altitis with all the inventory slots, bank slots, and respec tokens available for each character.
To me the lifer perks never stood out in particular, at least not since sto went f2p. Before it was a nice deal, now you have a lot of perks that sound nice on paper but are ultimately negligible (bonus xp is hardly worth it today, shuttles are severly underused, character slots are cheap, titles and accolades are kinda useless etc). Only thing standing out are the veteran ships really, but even then it's a big price tag in my opinion.
Agreed, the only thing that makes it somewhat worth it is the Zen stipend and on the console you don't even get that.
I would say yes, especially if you intend to subscribe anyway. That was my situation. I believe I purchased in summer 2012. So it has been quite a value. If you subscribe and expect the game to last 1.5 more years then I say go for it. If you don't subscribe then I would make that calculation more like 3 years. In that case I would say less certain.
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I found it useful, just wish i'd done it when this game went f2p instead of 2 cycles ago when I picked it up.
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A lot of the stuff you get is C-store stuff. A quick look priced everything at around $95 USD, not counting the Tier 6 ships you get. If I were to factor that in, it's around $155.
Again, this is just from a quick glance and I know I missed more than enough to add even more to the price. AND you get 500 zen/month, so add $5 for every month you continue playing. At some point, Cryptic will be paying you $5/month just to play the game, simply because the math will hit the total cost of the lifetime sub eventually.
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At this point in the games life cycle, I just don't see a life time membership as being worth it. The perks aren't anything great, and you'll spend less money just subscribing for one month for the perks you get to keep and then buying what you want from the C-Store at end game.
If this was a couple years ago.. sure. Today? I think you would have to be mad to purchase a LTS.
If you don't play this game very often, I absolutely agree, it's cheaper to just go monthly or tri-monthly. Some of us have had the game and played it since launch. If you paid a sub over the last six or so years, that's something like 14k USD. It would be *way* cheaper to just shell out 200$.
Plus there's all those perks and a monthly bonus of 500 points, you never have to give them money again if you don't want to (yes, I know it's f2p you don't have to anyway).
So it's really a matter of, do you think you'll get your money's worth out of it.
I would have bought it long ago, but the sale always happens when I don't have the money. >.<
I just bought the LTE, and I'm liking it. I especially liked the Veteran awards. I didn't know about the T6 ships, though. Which ones are they?
There's 2. There's the T5 version and the T6 version (and there are separate fleet versions for both, which only require 1 fleet module each), they're classified as Heavy Destroyers in the C-store for Fed and KDF and Warbird Destroyers for Romulan characters.
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I just wish that one of these times it comes on sale I'd actually have the money to get it...
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Ditto!!
OP. The LTS is worth getting as the game has lots of life in the old girl yet.
At this point in the games life cycle, I just don't see a life time membership as being worth it. The perks aren't anything great, and you'll spend less money just subscribing for one month for the perks you get to keep and then buying what you want from the C-Store at end game.
If this was a couple years ago.. sure. Today? I think you would have to be mad to purchase a LTS.
The 3 T6 ships (1 per faction) are nice, the android boff has your choice of gender and career and has self-revival, the T5 token lets you add something fun like the Fekihri carrier for KDF. Plus you get to be a Space Hobbit! (Well OK, that's an anti-benefit.)
For leveling new alts, you get +5% XP which lets you skip any grinding. Plus you get an extra 5-10 respec tokens as you level up and extra character slots.
If it lasts only another year, which I would say is a fairly pessimistic prediction, you still get back 6000 zen, and so you could say that a years worth of fun is about $140.00 or about $12.00 a month. I see this game being around longer than that, so really, the deal just gets better and better as time goes by. In three years you are really only out $19.99, and by the end of a fourth year you are +$40.00 in ships, or other C-Store stuff.
There are a lot of ways to pass the time, but if you look, a lot of those cost money as well. Often a lot more money. So yeah, seaofsorrows has a solid point, you can get a lot for just a single month that will still be there afterwards, but the lifetime sub keeps paying you back. I don't see it as much of a gamble.
Eat out one less time each month this year, and you have most likely paid for it.
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Ahh I did not know that. thanks for filling us in. I hate to give bad information.
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I ignored this exact advice when I bought my LTS 2 (or was it 3?) years ago.
Glad I did.
Then hell yes epseically if you have the money!
perks to be lifer.
free 500 zen points a month
you get liberated borg captain
captain's shuttle ship
extra character slot
titles
bonus ships
An alternative for leveling infrequent toons is to go Gold for 1 month, get that toon(s) leveled w/ the perks. Cause really, other than the stipend and Vet ship, after you reach max level, being anything but a F2P player doesn't really get you much.
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All of that being very cool and useful.
Less useful but fun, Mugatu pets, fireworks, and other little things.
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one day they will hit the nail. long after seaquest will be playable in the system ..
Agreed, the only thing that makes it somewhat worth it is the Zen stipend and on the console you don't even get that.
I got mine at launch and feel that I have received value from it over the years.
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Again, this is just from a quick glance and I know I missed more than enough to add even more to the price. AND you get 500 zen/month, so add $5 for every month you continue playing. At some point, Cryptic will be paying you $5/month just to play the game, simply because the math will hit the total cost of the lifetime sub eventually.
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Six months after console launch or the 6 months 5+yrs ago for PC?
If you don't play this game very often, I absolutely agree, it's cheaper to just go monthly or tri-monthly. Some of us have had the game and played it since launch. If you paid a sub over the last six or so years, that's something like 14k USD. It would be *way* cheaper to just shell out 200$.
Plus there's all those perks and a monthly bonus of 500 points, you never have to give them money again if you don't want to (yes, I know it's f2p you don't have to anyway).
So it's really a matter of, do you think you'll get your money's worth out of it.
I would have bought it long ago, but the sale always happens when I don't have the money. >.<
Yes.
There's 2. There's the T5 version and the T6 version (and there are separate fleet versions for both, which only require 1 fleet module each), they're classified as Heavy Destroyers in the C-store for Fed and KDF and Warbird Destroyers for Romulan characters.
But no one knows what the future holds.