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-/ A Cardassian Faction Simply Could Never Work \-
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I've given the idea of a Cardassian faction in STO a lot of thought, and I've become convinced that it simply isn't possible.
It's nothing to do with the developers or the engine or anything like that, it's just that the Cardassians are particularly poor fodder for an MMO.
What is the basis of the Cardassian character and its society in Star Trek? It is selflessness.
How do you represent that in a game, much less an MMO? To be compellingly and plausibly Cardassian, the player would have to have as his primary motivation selfless service to others. Self-sacrifice is where you do the work, you make the sacrifice, and someone else besides you benefits from it. That's not on with MMOs. An MMO player wants a reward, he or she won't do things without being rewarded.
The Cardassians are probably the finest creative product of the minds behind Star Trek, and its because they represent such an elevated purpose and a clarity of virtue. It would be difficult for any game to do them justice, unless that game was "selfless service simulator."
It's easy to understand why so many people admire the Cardassians and want to be like them, to imitate them, but you can already do that in STO. There is a growing number of Cardassian ships you can fly if you just want to do a tribute to them.
But actual playable Cardassians? Its very difficult to see how that could possibly work. Real people are weak and vain, but the Cardassians are an imaginary idealized form, they embody all that is best in people.
It's nothing to do with the developers or the engine or anything like that, it's just that the Cardassians are particularly poor fodder for an MMO.
What is the basis of the Cardassian character and its society in Star Trek? It is selflessness.
How do you represent that in a game, much less an MMO? To be compellingly and plausibly Cardassian, the player would have to have as his primary motivation selfless service to others. Self-sacrifice is where you do the work, you make the sacrifice, and someone else besides you benefits from it. That's not on with MMOs. An MMO player wants a reward, he or she won't do things without being rewarded.
The Cardassians are probably the finest creative product of the minds behind Star Trek, and its because they represent such an elevated purpose and a clarity of virtue. It would be difficult for any game to do them justice, unless that game was "selfless service simulator."
It's easy to understand why so many people admire the Cardassians and want to be like them, to imitate them, but you can already do that in STO. There is a growing number of Cardassian ships you can fly if you just want to do a tribute to them.
But actual playable Cardassians? Its very difficult to see how that could possibly work. Real people are weak and vain, but the Cardassians are an imaginary idealized form, they embody all that is best in people.
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l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
because this is the internet, and the STO forums, and some people will get upset about anything. even you seem to be riled up by my mundane post. please calm down, there is no reason to let this stuff upset you.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I actually think most of all after the events of the tragedy the dominion brought to the Cardassian homeworld, that the Cardassians could have worked as a good race to add to the Romulan republic faction, but not as a stand alone faction like the fed or even KDF. Both having lost quite ability of their past either in the form of their solidarity with the Cardassians, and their homeworld specifically for the Romulans, and now needing to rebuild their societies. Also there is the fact that both the groups are dealing with fighting to keep their independence from groups that once ruled over them, the true way for the cardassians, and the Tal Shiar an also the remnants of the Romulan star empire for the Romulans. Also this would give the addition of ships from the Cardassians could bolster the star ship line up for the romulans, with the cardassians giving carriers/cruisers/science ships, which would augment the largely tactical leaning starship pool of the romulan ships.
Troll bait. Don't get sucked in. Buttons are being pushed to start arguments.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
We must have watched different Star Treks.
Hmmm
"The Cardassians are probably the finest creative product of the minds behind Star Trek, and its because they represent such an elevated purpose and a clarity of virtue."
"Real people are weak and vain, but the Cardassians are an imaginary idealized form, they embody all that is best in people. "
Well I suppose when your the OP Genocide, TRIBBLE and Torture are all that.. again I suppose.. simply his words afterall
For a Cardassian, the State is everything. They know their propaganda is utter bull, they're not stupid, but they accept the lies their government spits out because they genuinely believe its for the good of all Cardassia. Take another look at the 8-episode-long Finale, especially Damar's character.
Cardassia is ruthless, and cruel... Cardassians are selfless and sacrificing. Their priorities, generally speaking, are:
* The State
* Family
* Commander
* Self
* Friends
* Everyone else
... in that order.
So... yeah, I think they would work as a faction... but only as a full faction, not a Romulan Republic-esque pseudo faction.
The most important reason to have a Cardassian micro-faction is to have an unbiased view of how 25th Century Cardassians are. Our Cardassian exposure is extremely limited due to there only being the True Way, the Cardassian diplomat, a couple of tailors, and a few other minor roles that are extremely forgettable.
Don't fall for the OP. He pretends the Cardassian never oppressed the Bajoran and the Bajorans were the real villains. It's relatively easy to see how wrong he is if you've watched DS9, so you you know the real purpose of this alleged opinion is to rile up people. If you engage him, do it in fun, not because someone is wrong on the internet.